my non subrity sh-t is over

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first of all, your mini-profile has caught my attention...i used to drink to 'anthems...' as well, oddly enough. as far as feeling like you need a new obsession or a new way to spend your money...do you game [non-pc]? if you do, i'd recommend getting gamefly...just a thought. games and anime tend to eat your money, but have the potential to alter the way you look at life if you choose the right titles.
i was a boozer for a bit, but it didn't last long...after about 4 months of drinking heavily 5-7 days a week average, i developed an ulcer >_______<. it sounds terrible to say 'wait until you get some sort of really sh tty health condition', but that was the most effective [legal] motivation i could find...

no freya918 i dont game. anthems is a very cool cd!

ive given up on trying to quit drinking, if i was made to be perfect i wouldnt be this way, but i am. so im just gonna go with it

If it makes you happy, why not?
Just watch the old liver though as once that is gone, it's gone.

And liver cirrhosis and liver cancers are slow painful deaths.

Aye, the medical textbooks here don't paint a pretty picture.

I suggest you have a cold shower and hop back on the wagon ASAP.

I didn't even mention the possibility of mouth, throat or oesophagal cancer. Graham Chapman smoked all of his life, and drank himself stupid until an incident in 1977 (he nearly brained himself falling down onto a coal scuttle or something). Because he was homosexual, people say he died of AIDS, but he died of nothing of the sort. He developed throat cancer from smoking and drinking. The cancer spread to his spine. However, it was actually pneumonia that finished him off in his weakened state. Oesophagal cancer is apparently bloody aggressive and extremely hard to operate upon.

Guuggghh

It also looks really nasty - almost as bad as the gums of those who chew tobacco.

just smoke weed instead of drinking.

I know weed is bad, but alcohol is much much worse.

I usually limit myself to light beer.

alcohol IS worse than weed, it's harsh. i'd like to see all alcohol advertising banned in the way cigarette ads are. I only drink if i can't get any giggle weed.

There is no sage advice I can give that will mean a thing. But I will try. No amount of horror stories that will do it. But I could. Your change will come from you in your own way. Or, it won't. I can tell you, you'll never forget this attempt at stopping. I can tell you that it isn't hiding anything from you, it's right there still in your face, even when stoned. I can tell you that 70 bucks cuts it now, but it won't later. Better make good plans, it gets really expensive, in more ways then one. Just being real with you.

Krex and I agree on the 12 stepper programs. I had to figure out another way and I needed the clear head to figure it out. It was kind of nice to pick and choose through what they had to see what fit, what would work to get this thing done. What really helped get me through it, was my obsessions. I found something else to do and in that sense my way won't be yours. I liked what Inventer had to say, alot. The store is closed and I have legos to play with. Bottom line for me, I like clean and sober and I ain't going back.

Sometimes it's second by miserable f*****g second to hang on and it's an emotional ride like no other. It's god damned horrible f*****g cold turkey and that takes major guts to get through on your own. Those that don't go through it have no f*****g idea and never will. This is hard ball stuff, the big time, it gets no more real then this. This is the real game live or die. Your call now. Just remember, it's a whole new world when you get clean and that in itself takes time to get used to again. You can do it, when really think you can.

That takes balls to even admit you had a hard go of it. There isn't a bit of shame in not getting it done this time. For me it's, f**k numbers anyway, I'm clean right now and tomorrow ain't here yet. Ask me how long I've been sober and clean and I couldn't tell you nor do I give a flying rats ass. But it's not a bad idea when you start, might give you a little edge, a good feel, the further you get from that last hit. And that's exactly what that s**t is, a f*****g hit square in the brain.

It's always, always, always, whatever works for you.

I'm always here for a PM or an email, always.