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27 Aug 2007, 4:15 pm

I honestly think that the evolution of the human race will depend on the top select few intellectual percentile of aspies, it's all up to us. those few of us who see what is going on, who aren't held down by primative NT social conventions like religions, political labels, culture and traditions, pop culture, etc. People who have intellectually risen beyond this bias game and are capable of seeing all walks of life as equal. People who've intellectually evolved beyond this hierarchy, this selfishness, all this negativity that goes into conventionalism. Einstein, an aspie himself, said it best, "the measure of a person is in how well they liberate themselves from themselves".
It is very possible, and alittle bit more common than the neanderthals out there think, to intellectually evolve beyond much of this genetic tribalism... And of coarse there are a few NTs who've done this as well.... Though I'd imagine statistically there are more aspies, but a beautiful mind is a beautiful mind, reguardless of if it's aspie or NT. But I honestly believe evolution depends on us.



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27 Aug 2007, 4:52 pm

snake321 wrote:
I honestly think that the evolution of the human race will depend on the top select few intellectual percentile of aspies, it's all up to us. those few of us who see what is going on, who aren't held down by primative NT social conventions like religions, political labels, culture and traditions, pop culture, etc. People who have intellectually risen beyond this bias game and are capable of seeing all walks of life as equal. People who've intellectually evolved beyond this hierarchy, this selfishness, all this negativity that goes into conventionalism. Einstein, an aspie himself, said it best, "the measure of a person is in how well they liberate themselves from themselves".
It is very possible, and alittle bit more common than the neanderthals out there think, to intellectually evolve beyond much of this genetic tribalism... And of coarse there are a few NTs who've done this as well.... Though I'd imagine statistically there are more aspies, but a beautiful mind is a beautiful mind, reguardless of if it's aspie or NT. But I honestly believe evolution depends on us.


Well spoken, I believe so too and that it's worth it persevering the anguish one might experience from engaging in a hopeless struggle.

Speaking of that.. Today at the library, I read a little of Gillberg's book on AS again, seems one of the reasons he feels we're supposedly unable to take care of ourselves is that we enter into hopeless struggles we've hardly got any realistic chance at winning. That's a quality every human being should have - fighting for what's right instead of what's beneficial for your position in society.

Amazingly enough, some ancient writers preached this roughly 3000 years ago yet people still don't live by this rule:

Leviticus 19:15 :

"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: (1)thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, (2)nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. "

Very few people obey (2), and modern liberals don't obey (1) either since they let a person's background and living conditions excuse the crimes he commits. If (2) seems unclear to someone, it means that you shouldn't take a person's or party's side based on his or its power.



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27 Aug 2007, 6:52 pm

Well the republican theocrats aren't very progressive either though.... If I might make a controversial statement, the bones found as evidence of evolution have proven all modern religions wrong. Science deals with facts and is subject to change with new findings, it's not "faith" based.
Faith is the bane of all ignorance, it means blindly putting trust into something with no proof and often no logical grounds.



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28 Aug 2007, 7:14 pm

Fedaykin wrote:
snake321 wrote:
I honestly think that the evolution of the human race will depend on the top select few intellectual percentile of aspies, it's all up to us. those few of us who see what is going on, who aren't held down by primative NT social conventions like religions, political labels, culture and traditions, pop culture, etc. People who have intellectually risen beyond this bias game and are capable of seeing all walks of life as equal. People who've intellectually evolved beyond this hierarchy, this selfishness, all this negativity that goes into conventionalism. Einstein, an aspie himself, said it best, "the measure of a person is in how well they liberate themselves from themselves".
It is very possible, and alittle bit more common than the neanderthals out there think, to intellectually evolve beyond much of this genetic tribalism... And of coarse there are a few NTs who've done this as well.... Though I'd imagine statistically there are more aspies, but a beautiful mind is a beautiful mind, reguardless of if it's aspie or NT. But I honestly believe evolution depends on us.


Well spoken, I believe so too and that it's worth it persevering the anguish one might experience from engaging in a hopeless struggle.

Speaking of that.. Today at the library, I read a little of Gillberg's book on AS again, seems one of the reasons he feels we're supposedly unable to take care of ourselves is that we enter into hopeless struggles we've hardly got any realistic chance at winning. That's a quality every human being should have - fighting for what's right instead of what's beneficial for your position in society.

Amazingly enough, some ancient writers preached this roughly 3000 years ago yet people still don't live by this rule:

Leviticus 19:15 :

"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: (1)thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, (2)nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. "

Very few people obey (2), and modern liberals don't obey (1) either since they let a person's background and living conditions excuse the crimes he commits. If (2) seems unclear to someone, it means that you shouldn't take a person's or party's side based on his or its power.


But I generally agree with the last paragraph there, though I don't necessarily think people always choose the "powerful" labels, just the ones that suit them best, or suits their prejudices best. And in the case of religions, it's mainly blind cultural tradition and simplicity. That being said religions as they are followed in the literal since are nothing more than over-powerful cults.



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28 Aug 2007, 10:43 pm

Sadly Snake, you've hit the nail right on the head. It's sad, because it seems like people never give time to listen to anyone who's different from them, or anyone who's a 3rd party. People won't stand up for themselves. People are becoming destructive to themselves and others around them.



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29 Aug 2007, 1:30 am

i can relate to this in a smaller picture. 10-15 years ago when michael jordan was in chicago bulls, everyone was like "lawl! bulls rule! the mailman got pwned again! rofl! wut? jordan is retiring? this is the last time im supporting the bulls then!"

then the season after jordan retired the same people were like "lawl! bulls sucked! they got pwned again! lol lol!"

these people suck!