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27 Aug 2007, 8:07 pm

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I am here for ya' kid, so sorry someone spotted you and did their rudeness to you. I was reading Smelena's posting about bullies. It seems they pick up on some social signal we put out. I know there is no comfort in telling you that it wasn't personal, becase it CERTAINLY WAS! However, NTs get this agressive thing from some sort of signals they get from us and they release their inner bully.

I get it all the time. ..

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Thanks Merle
The effect it had on me was that I was almost unbearable for my mother to be with for a few hours after, it is as if his anger rubbed off on me, if that makes sense.
It concerns me that I get such severe rage reaction to such things happening, in case I one day do hit someone or bring trouble on myself by lashing out verbally.
I isn't nice to be taken unawares like that , makes me just... not understand people at all.


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27 Aug 2007, 8:10 pm

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I find it hard not to meet aggression with aggression. :(

Especially during an adrenalin rush. You were attacked - *of course* you feel like responding in kind. But it would be good if you could come down - can you remember somebody who was kind when they didn't have to be? I remember a woman who put down 54 cents for me at the cash during a Weather Crisis (peace be upon her). Can you find your 'good' stranger somewhere in the memories? Also, at least you didn't run into him tomorrow, when he'll be carrying a weapon. Let him go and take his evil with him. You are too good and too beautiful to let it remain.



Time seems to have made me very defensive and aggressive towards people.
I only really seemed able to be.. forgiving and compassionate when I was involved in spiritual areas...Buddhism etc. That calmed me down a lot.
But I think bad experiences with people calling out nasty things to me at times when I have been just minding my own business and getting on with things, and feeling intimidated and as if I have to defend myself as a single, isolated female has embittered me a great deal.
I don't like this aggression in me, I was not aggressive like this as a child or even 10 years ago.


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27 Aug 2007, 8:10 pm

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27 Aug 2007, 8:11 pm

Now a rage reaction. . . that's something martial arts can be useful for. :)

uh. . . also, inept emotes of comfort/empathy waves to Graelwyn.


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27 Aug 2007, 8:12 pm

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Now a rage reaction. . . that's something martial arts can be useful for. :)

uh. . . also, inept emotes of comfort/empathy waves to Graelwyn.


Heh, thanks.
Yes rage...big issue for me lately. Want to channel it into more useful directions. Thus martial arts. I need to nag myself to get started on that. They do it weekly on a Sunday for only £5 a session.


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27 Aug 2007, 8:19 pm

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Now a rage reaction. . . that's something martial arts can be useful for. :)

uh. . . also, inept emotes of comfort/empathy waves to Graelwyn.


Heh, thanks.
Yes rage...big issue for me lately. Want to channel it into more useful directions. Thus martial arts. I need to nag myself to get started on that. They do it weekly on a Sunday for only £5 a session.


What art/s?


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27 Aug 2007, 8:22 pm

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Now a rage reaction. . . that's something martial arts can be useful for. :)

uh. . . also, inept emotes of comfort/empathy waves to Graelwyn.


Heh, thanks.
Yes rage...big issue for me lately. Want to channel it into more useful directions. Thus martial arts. I need to nag myself to get started on that. They do it weekly on a Sunday for only £5 a session.


What art/s?


Kickboxing is the starter one, then you move up to wushu and staff work, which is the part I am most interested in.


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27 Aug 2007, 8:24 pm

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Now a rage reaction. . . that's something martial arts can be useful for. :)

uh. . . also, inept emotes of comfort/empathy waves to Graelwyn.


Heh, thanks.
Yes rage...big issue for me lately. Want to channel it into more useful directions. Thus martial arts. I need to nag myself to get started on that. They do it weekly on a Sunday for only £5 a session.


What art/s?


Kickboxing is the starter one, then you move up to wushu and staff work, which is the part I am most interested in.


Sounds good. . . kicking things can be very satisfying.

I hope you enjoy it as much as I.


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27 Aug 2007, 10:01 pm

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Today, I was in London with my mother, walking along busy Oxford street, stressed...obviously, when a black man came behind and tried to get past but there wasn't room and instead he took an almighty kick at my shopping bag, shocking and scaring the life out of me as it was so aggressive then pushing past. I was so angry, I told my mother I hope he gets stabbed to death and how I want to smash his face in... it left me almost in tears and upset as I had done nothing.

To say it has made me hate most people and mistrust them even more is an understatement.

I find it hard not to meet aggression with aggression. :(


Yes, his behavior was violent and uncalled for. It seems like he was either high on drugs or psychotic. There is no talking to someone like that. You say you said something as he went past you but I'm guessing you didn't say it loud enough for him to hear it. You say you find it hard not to meet aggression with aggression, but what strikes me is that you didn't address your aggression against him, which would have been useless and dangerous. What you did was to express your anger to your mother, sanely and appropriately. :)



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28 Aug 2007, 10:34 am

I hope things improve with you soon!


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28 Aug 2007, 1:19 pm

Wait, you're British right? Just stab him with your sword. All British people have swords, even if they don't know it yet. I can garuntee that somewhere in your house there's a sword :P.

Honestly, though, I feel the same way some time. Especially in high school. There were always really fat people standing in the door way talking. I don't know what they were talking about that could possibly be so interesting that they couldn't walk and talk at the same time. Probably food. Anyways, they just stood there for several minutes at a time, and if I tried to get past them to go to class they looked at me like I was being rude. I kept wishing I had a cattle prod with me.



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28 Aug 2007, 6:00 pm

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Wait, you're British right? Just stab him with your sword. All British people have swords, even if they don't know it yet. I can garuntee that somewhere in your house there's a sword :P.

Honestly, though, I feel the same way some time. Especially in high school. There were always really fat people standing in the door way talking. I don't know what they were talking about that could possibly be so interesting that they couldn't walk and talk at the same time. Probably food. Anyways, they just stood there for several minutes at a time, and if I tried to get past them to go to class they looked at me like I was being rude. I kept wishing I had a cattle prod with me.



Tonight just verified my belief that most human beings are total vermin, lol. Being rather...um...sad, I decided to wait at the stage door after seeing a play with Orlando Bloom, to get his autograph...a silly bit of writing on a bit of paper in the end...and the way people were shoving and elbowing and jostling, and the security guards must be ex convicts or somesuch as they were physically shoving people back and shouting their heads of... I mean, what world is it where just because we pay to watch someone on screen or on DVD or on stage, they suddenly become the most important being in the vicinity?

Insane. :roll: Probably sell the damn thing on ebay one day anyway.


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28 Aug 2007, 6:50 pm

Graelwyn,

Channeling your energy into kickboxing sounds great.

I do taekwondo with my 9 year old and 7 year old and it is very therapeutic punching and kicking the daylights out of the punchbags.

I also lift weights and can do 25 push-ups off my toes! I'm still working on chin-ups!

I feel tall and powerful after a good session of weights.

And ..... promise you won't murder me when we meet! :lol:

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28 Aug 2007, 6:54 pm

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Graelwyn,

Channeling your energy into kickboxing sounds great.

I do taekwondo with my 9 year old and 7 year old and it is very therapeutic punching and kicking the daylights out of the punchbags.

I also lift weights and can do 25 push-ups off my toes! I'm still working on chin-ups!

I feel tall and powerful after a good session of weights.

And ..... promise you won't murder me when we meet! :lol:

Helen


I promise, hehe, and anyway,you'd probably beat me hands down if I tried it :lol:

I could do with a punchbag actually. It might not last long, however


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28 Aug 2007, 6:57 pm

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Thanks Merle
The effect it had on me was that I was almost unbearable for my mother to be with for a few hours after, it is as if his anger rubbed off on me, if that makes sense.
It concerns me that I get such severe rage reaction to such things happening, in case I one day do hit someone or bring trouble on myself by lashing out verbally.
I isn't nice to be taken unawares like that , makes me just... not understand people at all.


Sorry to hear about this :(

I completely understand the sense of someones anger infecting you. Its the last thing you need when youve just gotten shook up badly like that, because it replaces the real (nice) you & so robs you of the love you need to comfort yourself.

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I only really seemed able to be.. forgiving and compassionate when I was involved in spiritual areas...Buddhism etc. That calmed me down a lot.


maybe the 'silver lining' of this could be that you reconnect more with your spiritual side and you life enters a mystical renaissance?
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im wary of self-professed 'self defense' trainers as imo 95% of them teach you things that are just plain dangerous applied to a real life confrontation. Theres still very good reasons to attend classes - exercise, hobby, social etc - i just wish they wouldnt call themselves 'self defense' instructors :(



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28 Aug 2007, 7:05 pm

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Especially during an adrenalin rush. You were attacked - *of course* you feel like responding in kind. But it would be good if you could come down - can you remember somebody who was kind when they didn't have to be? I remember a woman who put down 54 cents for me at the cash during a Weather Crisis (peace be upon her). Can you find your 'good' stranger somewhere in the memories? Also, at least you didn't run into him tomorrow, when he'll be carrying a weapon. Let him go and take his evil with him. You are too good and too beautiful to let it remain.


Great and valuable post, i especially loved that bit. Very poetic and inspiring. Im sure ill get a chance to use it soon - the devil never seems to be far away these days...