Dialogues with my therapist

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30 Nov 2007, 2:51 am

I don't see the joke either...


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30 Nov 2007, 3:04 am

Me: "Blah, blah, blah, such little love in the world, blah blah bla-"

Therapist: (frowning) "Wait a minute. You think all those millions of married couples don't love each other?""

Me: "Maybe they love each other. Maybe they don't. It all depends on your personal definition of what love is".

Therapist: "There's only one definition of love and it is [insert her personal definition here]"

Me: "That's not my definition of love, so we already have two."

Therapist: (yells at me about me being offensive)


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30 Nov 2007, 3:31 am

If these are real 'therapy' excerpts, there's only a few conlusions you can come to.

You must enjoy it.

You've got lotsa money.



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30 Nov 2007, 3:40 am

Greentea,

You are so luckey to have a therapist. Such a trained professional, such insights, and they went to school to learn how to speak like that.

For those of us they would never be alone in a room with, who no one wants to become more functional and mobile, it would be great if you could write about the benefits of therapy.

There must be a repeat pattern of responses regarding life, work, relationships, resisting therapy, holding offensive opinions, then daring to go to therapy before correcting yourself.

It would be such a help to others.

Just from these few notes, I have learned that if I ever got the chance for therapy, I should first free myself of anger, hostility, offensiveness, depression, defensiveness, denial, and resisting, so that therapy can work it's miracles.

I would also like to learn of the truth of AS, as only a trained NT Professional can see it. I imagine the insights of such a mind would bring me great joy.

It could be intited, "What I got for ten years and $40,000."

Say, ten topic chapters, 200 pages total, and $15 in paperback.

You would be doing the world a favor.



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30 Nov 2007, 3:47 am

Inventor, that was an awesome post!


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02 Dec 2007, 2:23 am

My question is, why pay money to insult someone when you can simply insult any idiot on the street for free? Don't get me wrong, you actually made me laugh out loud and that almost never happens. Can you tell us any way that your therapist has helped you? I'm quite curious.

I hope you appreciate my signature!! ! :wink:



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02 Dec 2007, 1:44 pm

I don't call my answers here above insults, though.


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02 Dec 2007, 3:10 pm

I may be interpreting you replies in therapy incorrectly, but what I hear is an intended tone of sarcasm in your replies, thus they would be an insult because you are essentially attacking the person posing the question/comment. The sarcasm/sharp response says to the other person "you're an idiot" because the sarcasm indicates you think the question/comment is stupid (ie - the person posing it is stupid). It sounds to me like you are intentionally trying to show your therapist that he/she is an idiot. If someone responded to me in an overly sarcastic way, I would change the subject too, and assume they thought my comments were idiotic. Some of the presumptions/comments/questions directed towards you in your session are obviously borderline idiotic, so I completely understand the need for the tone in your responses.

Was your Hitler response actually intended as anything but an insult? That was a pretty cold way to disagree with someone (though brilliant and funny). You didn't just contradict her logic, you did in such a way as to make her look like an idiot.

But I'm wondering what you get out of it when you are not trying to make your therapist look like an idiot? Again, you may very well be justified, or I may be interpreting your tone and/or intention incorrectly.



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02 Dec 2007, 5:02 pm

I wasn't sarcastic, in fact. I was seriously asking her to explain to me the logic of no friends = aggressivity. To me, the equation is wrong because we have examples such as Hitler who refute her theory. Her having no explanation for her own beliefs is what makes her silly, not my questions (just my opinion).


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02 Dec 2007, 5:10 pm

sure, but it's disagreeable to disagree with someone on everything. Not that it stops me.



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02 Dec 2007, 5:12 pm

Greentea wrote:
I wasn't sarcastic, in fact. I was seriously asking her to explain to me the logic of no friends = aggressivity. To me, the equation is wrong because we have examples such as Hitler who refute her theory. Her having no explanation for her own beliefs is what makes her silly, not my questions (just my opinion).


I tend to agree that your responses were entirely justified - therapists are people too, and some of them have ideas that are just plain wrong. Ig she tried to ram these ideas down your throat, clever sarcasm is a good way to point this out.

That being said, someone this extreme can't be doing much for you. Have you considered ditching her?



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02 Dec 2007, 8:37 pm

EvilZak wrote:
clever sarcasm is a good way to point this out.

Greantea,

See, Zak agrees it's sarcasm. That may not be your intention, but I GUARANTEE that is how it is being interpreted. Hence the response of her rolling her eyes at you!

You may be right in your responses, but the sarcasm, intended or not, can make people ANGRY as it is ofter taken by many as a direct insult. That may not be the intention, but that is often the interpretation, particularly with many NTs!! !

You don't seem to understand how the Hitler response is easily interpreted as going for the throat. Rather than disagree with her logic with a plain remark, you thought up an extreme example to stress your point. That doesn't make you wrong, it just means you are unintentionally insulting her. I'm just saying that you'd probably have more luck if you tried to be a little more tactful. I'm not trying insulting you here, just trying to point this out.....

Her logic is clearly silly and not well thoughtout, but it's in the way that you word your responses that will either get through to people, or make them roll there eyes and move on.

I too have a tendency to make quick remarks without much patience, and I work with a few fellow engineers who are very sarcastic, not in a funny way, and I see how many people get irritated at them because of their sarcastic responses. I think they are funny and get along with them very well. But most other do not.



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03 Dec 2007, 12:31 am

Me: "...so I believe I may have Asperger's"

Therapist: "Well, I never heard of this asparagus thing you mention, but know what, OK, I'll grant you that you may have it. It doesn't make a difference, anyway. Because if someone doesn't have friends, it's because of aggressivity."

Me: (no comment)


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03 Dec 2007, 12:43 am

Me: "Could you give me an example or two of how I am more aggressive than others?"

Therapist: "I can't think of any. But someone who was as severely abused as a child as you were, is bound to be more aggressive than others. So your problem just has to be aggressivity."


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03 Dec 2007, 12:49 am

aggressivity?

I don't believe there is such a word. I hope you corrected her on that, Greentea.



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03 Dec 2007, 1:41 am

Greentea wrote:
Me: "Could you give me an example or two of how I am more aggressive than others?"

Therapist: "I can't think of any. But someone who was as severely abused as a child as you were, is bound to be more aggressive than others. So your problem just has to be aggressivity."

I retract all previous statements an encourage you to use insults and sarcasm as often as you deem necessary when dealing with this woman :lol: