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06 Dec 2018, 2:13 am

...I don't refuse agencies' help or refuse to take medicistions.









ardJ"]I severely empathize with you as per usual, but I must say, you really should accept those organization's help, them administering medications may just be, as they say, a 'cost of doing business'.

If you really are in this bad of shape, letting the government/organizations help you at expense of your freedom may just prove to save your life. While some of us, myself included are sometimes cynical, we do care and are pulling for you. California of all places would have the most services for the disabled, you have to be the one to apply for help and seek it out, we cannot do that on your behalf. You obviously have an internet connection, make good use of it, seek out organizations and bureaus that can provide help, tell them your story and perhaps one can provide actual assistance, not just written sympathy on a forum.

Regarding your diet, lay off the fast food, you'll feel much better. Even McDonald's has some rather healthy options.

As I said, we're hoping the best for you. Good luck ASS-P.

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06 Dec 2018, 2:18 am

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...The situation. I am in DOES NOT ALLOW MR TO have much choice in food or.my schedulr I'm eating.it!! ! Do you not realize that?


Of course. That's why most people have thought you belong in a care facility, where your diet and meds are regulated.

That's why I'm going into one. Swift personal disaster would ensue if I were left to my own devices.



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06 Dec 2018, 2:22 am

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....To start with, the situation in the Patterson place was EXTREMELY confining. In two complete weeks there, 14 days ..I did not leave the house and its " grounds ' but once in 14 days :o ! And that I believe only in.the night, after 6 PM. I was, otherwise, inside the.house or the.walled-in mostly concrete back, very marginally the front, 100% of the time :x ! I NEVER got outside in the daytime for walking and exercise and night and fresh air AT ALL This, at length, would certainly make my ability.to walk degenerate :cry: - " use.it or lose it " - and my health go downhill! :cry: The fenced in back yard was rather like when I was in jail. There:d more.....


That is only one place however, strike it off the list, and see what else is offered. CA is a large state, largest in the union by population, I'm sure Patterson isn't the only place in the state offering such services.

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Of course. That's why most people have thought you belong in a care facility, where your diet and meds are regulated.


Ezra is right, when you have such considerable health issues, very precise regulation of medications is best, and hospice may be your best bet to return to better health.

I don't doubt you about taking your medications, I was just stating that sometimes one must compromise to obtain their goal.

Please do persevere, keep looking.

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06 Dec 2018, 2:35 am

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....To start with, the situation in the Patterson place was EXTREMELY confining. In two complete weeks there, 14 days ..I did not leave the house and its " grounds ' but once in 14 days :o ! And that I believe only in.the night, after 6 PM. I was, otherwise, inside the.house or the.walled-in mostly concrete back, very marginally the front, 100% of the time :x ! I NEVER got outside in the daytime for walking and exercise and night and fresh air AT ALL This, at length, would certainly make my ability.to walk degenerate :cry: - " use.it or lose it " - and my health go downhill! :cry: The fenced in back yard was rather like when I was in jail. There:d more.....


That's what a nursing home is. They're supposed to be confining. I expect to be confined to the one I move into. Technically I have to be confined anyways because I'm considered a "flight risk". It sucks in a way. But at least I'm better off than a guy I know who's a C-5 quadriplegic.

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"use.it or lose it"

What if you wind up giving yourself a stroke that paralyzes you? Or your diabetes worsens to the point where your leg gets amputated?
Then you'll really lose it.



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06 Dec 2018, 2:56 am

I have a feeling that there is no answer that we all can give that you will accept, thusly you will continue to do as you always have. You know that progress must happen, but you reject it at every turn for every possible reason.

We want the best for you, but you first must be willing to accept help.

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06 Dec 2018, 3:08 am

ASS-P wrote:
...I don't refuse agencies' help or refuse to take medicistions.


You've been to the ER and neeed stays in the hospital umpteen times this year.



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06 Dec 2018, 9:31 am

.I TAKE THE GODDAMN MEDICATIONS :x ! When I was in the motel room, I took them regularly! I HAVE POINTED OUT THAT --- LACK OF REST --- and not having a chance to have a " normal * diet are major problems :( . Some bach personell watching me take my pills that I'd take anyway just adds s layer of " trying to appear useful "(and reminds me of mental hospital types forcing you to take their meds :cry:)! It seems some may think there's a bach around every corner, toq :( .


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" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
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06 Dec 2018, 11:07 am

I was just pointing out that taking your medications doesn't seem to be enough.



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06 Dec 2018, 9:11 pm

ASS-P wrote:
.I TAKE THE GODDAMN MEDICATIONS :x ! When I was in the motel room, I took them regularly! I HAVE POINTED OUT THAT --- LACK OF REST --- and not having a chance to have a " normal * diet are major problems :( . Some bach personell watching me take my pills that I'd take anyway just adds s layer of " trying to appear useful "(and reminds me of mental hospital types forcing you to take their meds :cry:)! It seems some may think there's a bach around every corner, toq :( .

But you said earlier in this thread that you left your meds behind at the shelter because they were too much to carry! Did you get back the bag they were in? Have you been taking them every day since you left the motel? When you talk about eating, it sounds like you get two good free meals each day. You can use your SSDI money to buy a healthy ready made lunch while you’re out can’t you? It doesn’t have to be a fancy meal, just healthy. That ought not be too difficult.

You had a room back in SF. Do the two cities in the same state really have such different policies for dealing with the poor or homeless people? It sounds like SF had a lot more services.

You had months of rest on your own schedule at the motel and I think a few months at the recuperation place and hospitals. Just a bit earlier in this thread you were complaining that you had too much rest in Patterson and not enough exercise, especially outdoors. Now you say you don’t get enough rest. How much bed rest do you think you need each night/day? Based on your experience this last year, how many months of rest do you think would make you recover? It sounds like you are a large man and you have some health problems, but I don’t think you should need much more sleep than an average person and exercise would help your diabetes, heart and fluid buildup problems. You would be off your feet while you have lunch and then when you are at the library, so you’d get some mid-day rest. I know you get lots of advice here and at the same time are used to being independent. It must be hard to know what advice to follow.



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06 Dec 2018, 9:17 pm

oooh, Anne Oleson, you are making too much sense. Prepare to be blasted with an unfair caricature of yourself and plenty of sarcasm attributing untrue motives to yourself. And join the club.


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06 Dec 2018, 9:23 pm

^^ :lol:



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06 Dec 2018, 10:34 pm

...I do hope you're not dumping on me, Ann :cry: .


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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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06 Dec 2018, 10:47 pm

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...I do hope you're not dumping on me, Ann :cry: .

No. I’m serious.



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06 Dec 2018, 11:27 pm

...It was rest/sleep AND rest/relief from exhaustion I am needing :(. There's few inexpensive prepared food places in downtown SC. Perhaps Canada's urban planning philosophy has worked out differently than the States'. The circumstances of the Patterson place made rest not too restful there. It's the carrying a big load that really adds to the hurt! And exhauston :cry:.
If you have turned against me thaf's too bax :cry: . It seems many people here are utterly obsessed with the alleged wonderfulness of Patterson and want me pushed in there and the door locked behind me - " all for my own good ", of course! :(
I haven't even fully filled out the problem witb the confined-ness of the Patterson place, let alone the other problems! :x I am having
such problems this beat-up little phone.
If ONLY some would help me increase my computer/stuff knowledge...Not money or material things, knowledge :cry: . The old " learn to fish " saying g but nobody seems to care :cry: . I can hardly " go to a class " when I have a 5:45 PM curfew :(.
I am SO slow-mving with my crippledness :cry:. And this PHONE :x !


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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06 Dec 2018, 11:40 pm

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...It was rest/sleep AND rest/relief from exhaustion I am needing :(. There's few inexpensive prepared food places in downtown SC. Perhaps Canada's urban planning philosophy has worked out differently than the States'. The circumstances of the Patterson place made rest not too restful there. It's the carrying a big load that really adds to the hurt! And exhauston :cry:.
If you have turned against me thaf's too bax :cry: . It seems many people here are utterly obsessed with the alleged wonderfulness of Patterson and want me pushed in there and the door locked behind me - " all for my own good ", of course! :(
I haven't even fully filled out the problem witb the confined-ness of the Patterson place, let alone the other problems! :x I am having
such problems this beat-up little phone.
If ONLY some would help me increase my computer/stuff knowledge...Not money or material things, knowledge :cry: . The old " learn to fish " saying g but nobody seems to care :cry: . I can hardly " go to a class " when I have a 5:45 PM curfew :(.
I am SO slow-mving with my crippledness :cry:. And this PHONE :x !


Where should I start?

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There's few inexpensive prepared food places in downtown SC.

You don't need to find a boutique inexpensive food place, you just need to order healthier things that the ones you already go to, as I said previously, there are healthy options at various fast food places.

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It seems many people here are utterly obsessed with the alleged wonderfulness of Patterson and want me pushed in there and the door locked behind me - " all for my own good ", of course! :(

This notion is preposterous, no one is obsessing over how wonderful Patterson is. There are other places like Patterson that are more of what you want, I assure you.

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If ONLY some would help me increase my computer/stuff knowledge...Not money or material things, knowledge :cry: . The old " learn to fish " saying g but nobody seems to care :cry: . I can hardly " go to a class " when I have a 5:45 PM curfew :(.

You have been a member of this forum for over 10 years, by now, you should have at least a basic grasp of how the internet works.

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oooh, Anne Oleson, you are making too much sense. Prepare to be blasted with an unfair caricature of yourself and plenty of sarcasm attributing untrue motives to yourself. And join the club.

Same as it ever was...


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07 Dec 2018, 12:59 am

ASS-P wrote:
...It was rest/sleep AND rest/relief from exhaustion I am needing :(. There's few inexpensive prepared food places in downtown SC. Perhaps Canada's urban planning philosophy has worked out differently than the States'. The circumstances of the Patterson place made rest not too restful there. It's the carrying a big load that really adds to the hurt! And exhauston :cry:.
If you have turned against me thaf's too bax :cry: . It seems many people here are utterly obsessed with the alleged wonderfulness of Patterson and want me pushed in there and the door locked behind me - " all for my own good ", of course! :(
I haven't even fully filled out the problem witb the confined-ness of the Patterson place, let alone the other problems! :x I am having
such problems this beat-up little phone.
If ONLY some would help me increase my computer/stuff knowledge...Not money or material things, knowledge :cry: . The old " learn to fish " saying g but nobody seems to care :cry: . I can hardly " go to a class " when I have a 5:45 PM curfew :(.
I am SO slow-mving with my crippledness :cry:. And this PHONE :x !


Being a confined cripple who's often online using budget phone, I suppose I should be able to relate, but I don't really. And no one is obsessed or gleeful or anything like that about you. No one really genuinely cares much if at all. That's life. Especially life on the internet. Which you've been on for at least 11 years, so you have just as much experience with computer stuff/knowledge as most of the rest of us.