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wozeree
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02 Nov 2013, 7:37 pm

You are so much like me you crack me up. When I started out on this little journey I thought just try and you will succeed! I was kind of shocked that anybody could kick a homeless guy out of a shelter - how does that happen, I mean what good is one week in a shelter?

Bureaucracy sucks! Anyway, what you are describing takes a lot of commitment and expertise and somebody to deal with the money that comes in, etc. I think our best bet is really try to get him into a supportive environment where he will have somebody to care for him and company around him. If Obamacare actually works, that may help, but it's going to take a while.

As I said, he's in a hotel right now so at least he's getting some R&R and a break from the stress of sleeping on the streets. Not much money though, it will go fast.



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02 Nov 2013, 7:41 pm

wozeree wrote:
I think our best bet is really try to get him into a supportive environment where he will have somebody to care for him and company around him.


Yes of course, but the point is, how is that to be financed? If there is some kind of accomodation he is entitled to for free, by all means somebody should try to get him housed in it. But if not, presumably somebody will have to finance it for him. How is the supportive environment you speak of going to be paid for if none of us are rich? :(



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02 Nov 2013, 7:58 pm

In theory yes, I think he should be entitled to help from the system.
You are more then welcome to start putting up a website, Walter would love you! I would have no idea how to go about doing such a thing, you might need to start a charity, don't know.



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02 Nov 2013, 8:28 pm

No, you do not have to start a charity. It is legal to simply post an ad online saying "please donate money to me for XYZ."

If this lady can do it, why can't we? Our cause (or rather, Walter's cause) is far more worthy than hers!

http://www.gofundme.com/iamzw

Please NOBODY donate to that bimbo! I am only posting the link to show how easy it is to make an online appeal for donations. I going to check out the site (which was the first one I came across just now in a Google search) and see if I can make a profile there for Walter. If so, I will post the link here.

Later: OK I checked out the FAQ of that website and it looks like it's going to be very easy to do:

http://www.gofundme.com/how-to-fundraise/

In summary, anyone can make a profile on gofundme.com appealing for donations for themself or for a third party, so it would be OK for us to make an account for Walter on his behalf (assuming he wouldn't mind. Since he is homeless and desperate I assume his pride would hopefully not be wounded if we launched this appeal for him). It says the website will take 5% commission of the funds raised. Also it says that when you want to access the money being donated to you, it will be transferred to your bank account or you will be sent a cheque.

Edit: after some private discussion it has been agreed that it would be best not to set up an appeal account for Walter until he has a bank account of his own. I apologise if I was too hasty in trying to push my ideas forward. I was only trying to help Walter but I can see why it would make more sense for the funds to be sent directly to him.

Once we have an account for him, we will be able to paste the link on this thread and people will have an easy and quick way to donate to Walter rather than having to PM people about Paypal behind the scenes. Most people are lazy and if they see they can donate to somebody with a simple click, they will. But if they see they have to send a PM, they won't.

Also, maybe Walter's account might get featured on the GoFundMe website, and strangers browsing through the site might make random donations to him. Once we have the account up and running, we can start a new appeal thread somewhere else in the forum (preferably a place that gets more traffic than the Haven) asking people to donate and post the link in their Facebook or Twitter, or forward it to friends, or make videos about it, or blog about it, or generally raise awareness about poor Walter's plight.



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02 Nov 2013, 8:42 pm

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I feel humbled at reading the above.

What about Mr 2x4, Alex Plank? This is his website. Why not drop him a line?



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02 Nov 2013, 9:02 pm

octobertiger wrote:
What about Mr 2x4, Alex Plank? This is his website. Why not drop him a line?


Yes I did think of asking him but I don't know why but I imagined he would not want to help. He has a policy of not intervening on suicide threads, due to something or other that happened once on here. I would imagine he has some sort of general policy about not interfering with the lives of WP users in practical ways, but simply allowing them to come here and post. But maybe I'm wrong.



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02 Nov 2013, 9:06 pm

I didn't know you could do that - it's a great idea. I've got my hands full with trying to get him into housing so if anybody wants to do this, have at it. I also really do not want to be handling any one else's money through my bank account - I'm not that great at handling my own. We are actually trying to get him (or I'm trying to get him to) get a bank account for him, so if we pull that off, then it could go directly into there.



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02 Nov 2013, 9:17 pm

Edit: after some private discussion it has been agreed that it would be best not to set up an appeal account for Walter until he has a bank account of his own. I apologise if I was too hasty in trying to push my ideas forward. I was only trying to help Walter but I can see why it would make more sense for the funds to be sent directly to him. I am sorry if I got carried away and made silly suggestions with my brainstorming. :oops: Some of it might have been a good idea though. :) We will still try and make him an appeal account, but just wait until he has his own bank account to link it with.



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02 Nov 2013, 9:45 pm

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In summary INDIEGOGO!! ! That way people from outside US can donate to help him too.



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02 Nov 2013, 10:59 pm

I accept money donations too, though not prayers; I don't want to waste your energy there.



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04 Nov 2013, 2:01 am

I haven't read alot of his post but he seemed like a good guy who just got a raw deal & deserves a break. I'm not religious so I won't pray & I cant really afford to help financially rite now. I live in Vermont so I'm nowhere near him but if he was close or someone else in a serious spot here was close & seemed kewl & legit I would consider discussing with my girlfriend about putting them up for abit; we have a 2nd bedroom thou that's where my computer & pet chinchilla are but I could spend time with em less or at certain times. There's been times when I felt like running away from my family & could of really used to get away for awhile but I know I've had it pretty good compared to some people thou. I may seem heartless sometimes but I really do feel bad for people in these kinds of situations but I'd have to be practical & make protecting my girlfriend, myself & our stuff top priority so I'd have to get a feel for the person & feel I could trust them. I'm really glad some of you are stepping up & willing to help him


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