why do people care if others they hate kill themselves?

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I'm going to try to address all your points, but I may miss some. If I do I'll come back.

You won't mess up your body by doing an exercise wrong. It will hurt and you will stop because it's not the "burn hurt" you want. You'll know. The worst you'll do is pull something that will heal in a few days to a week. Look on YouTube for instructions for exercises. Also, TALK TO MY FRIEND PLEASE! PM me and I'll set it up for yall to talk online. Also, some things are dangerous to do at home like bench presses and squats. The rest you don't need a spotter with. You can keep buying weights at Walmart or get the big plates to go on there too instead. You can also look on your local Freecycle which is through YahooGroups and you join and get emails of stuff being given away. free stuff on Craigslist (or cheap weight sets or the machines you can buy when somebody wants to just get rid of theirs) and also if you are on FB most places have a local city or county yard sale page you can join and look at stuff local people are selling. You might can get a machine cheap that way. Plus, many gyms have deals and some even give you a key and let you come anytime, 24/7 even when they aren't staffed. You could use the machines. This guy I'm talking about used to go at 1030 when he got off work every night, then come over to see my son.

You can also keep wieghts in your room, my boys did and most people I know here to that unless they have a basement. The garage would be way too hot. I live in the Deep South. You need air conditioning 8 months out of the year here.

Yes women like to be talked to in public, no we don't want to just be left alone unless we are in a relationship or in a pissy mood or just not looking right then, but we also know that you don't know that when you approach us. Don't say a line or something creepy, just hello and small talk about something relevant to where you are. If she is interested she will keep the conversation going. Don't compliment her right off, some girls don't like that although some do, so don't take the chance. Most don't like to be yelled at by guys when we walk by, so that's the main no-no. You can approach a woman in public. Thats why it's called public, cause you interact with people usually or at least that it's ok to interact with just about anybody you see in public. Practice just saying hello and then going on to people, pretty girls included. When you get better at that, start trying to talk to girls. You don't have to like them or be attracted, just talk to them. In fact, it's better if you aren't attracted so there is no pressure. Get your talking game going. Learn to talk to people you just meet. When you get better at that and are comfortable, then start talking to girls you would like to get to know.

As for friends, well go places. Most of my kids friends and my friends just hang out at each other's houses and watch something on tv or talk or whatever. Almost everybody is broke so that is what they do. You can do that can't you? Invite some of the people you know over to hang out. Just hang out. You all can watch a movie or play games or listen to music or whatever. Just chill together. Then they will invite you next time. Go when they do. Meet the new people that are there when you go over. Get to know them. Invite them and they will invite you. This kind of thing will slowly expand into a bigger circle of friends. Pursue the ones you think would be like the kind of people to know girls you could meet, and also hang with the others. You never know. This s**t takes time too, not overnight. It could take months to a year to expland your circle like that, or quicker if you befriend a very social guy who likes you and invites you places. Just try it. Keep at it. Really. It's the only way and the best way. Also, this gives you a thing to do on a date. When you meet a girl you can invite her to come hang with you and your friends and watch a movie or whatever. This is very, very common and acceptable. It's also less pressure. Do it. Really.

About your car, well have you taken it to a mechanic to find out whats wrong with it? If not, you should and get it serviced and checked out. If it breaks down that happens. Learn about your car so you can handle most minor emergencies like that. I have horrible trouble with cars, so I feel you, and I can even work on them. Well I could back before about 85 or so when they changed. But work on that too.

For diet, go for high protein and low carbs. Make sure you eat carbs though, but do it early in the day. Add the proteins, lean proteins. Beef is a protein and roast beef would be good but country friend steak would not. Eat veggies without sauces or without cooking them with fatback. Cut back on sweets. Do situps and pushups and pullups and such. Walk or job or run. Bike if you can. Wear leg weights on your ankles. Do curls and flies and whats that one called where you bend at the waist and bring the weight from your knees up to your armpit with one hand? Do overhead presses. Do squats while holding weights. Do calf presses standing on books while holding weights. Do cardio. Get a speed bag. Those are things you can do right now, but I REALLY WANT you to talk to my friend. He can help you in this area more than I can. If you lose wieght without good exercise you'll just be thinner and flabby. How much do you weigh now and how tall are you? This will give me some idea of where we are going.

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Because people are stupid!

Because people just want to feel good about themselves. They want to feel like they "saved" someone from killing themselves, even if that person would honestly be better off dead. Most people are incredibly selfish, and they refuse to understand that it's not all about them, and that sometimes, suicide is the right answer, no matter how much it hurts others. Goodness knows I'd be better off dead. I mean, I've costed my parents tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and I'm barely able to take care of myself. Yet people keep telling me that "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" (which is utter BS, since not all problems are temporary) and that I'd be hurting my parents by killing myself. What I wonder is, why does my pain matter less than my parents' pain does? Why should I have to continue to live in pain just so I can spare my parents the pain of grieving my death? Why do I have to be the hero here?

Because it's always better to take the "high road."

People make mistakes. I'm in debt myself.

You could correct mistakes, while not giving up.

Many people make quite severe mistakes, learn from them, and go on to live decent lives.

I don't have that expectation...but how do you know you can't overcome it? It might seem impossible now...but who knows what the future will hold.

I know people who were a total suicidal mess in their 20's, yet much better in their 30s.

Not because of any "treatments," either.

You know what, Sly....when you become in your 50's, you'll understand what I mean when I say: "you never know."

Right now, you're in the midst of it, so you can't see your way out of it.

speaking at least for myself, I can say that one eventually "ages into" one's AS. IOW one eventually learns how to make peace with the "Holland" life.

I would never have made it if I had to live in such a high-cost area.