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30 Jun 2015, 7:55 pm

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I would never have made it if I had to live in such a high-cost area.

Well, I can't really change where I live, seeing as I pretty much need to live close to my parents and my younger brother (since they're my only support system at the moment), and they don't seem to want to move out-of-state. But yeah, I know, the costs of living in this state are insane.


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30 Jun 2015, 8:40 pm

seattle is the closest big metropolis to me [3 hours as the crow flies] and I can imagine that Mass. must be like one big seattle in terms of cost of living. working class people simply cannot afford to live in seattle, so I can imagine how they struggle in MA.



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30 Jun 2015, 8:53 pm

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seattle is the closest big metropolis to me [3 hours as the crow flies] and I can imagine that Mass. must be like one big seattle in terms of cost of living. working class people simply cannot afford to live in seattle, so I can imagine how they struggle in MA.

You know, what's really sad to me is seeing all of the homeless people here in MA. They're everywhere once you get into Boston, and I feel like that, more than anything else, is a sign that the costs of living here are far too high. I mean, I know that a small percentage of them are probably scammers who just want to make a quick buck by pretending to be homeless, but the large majority of them are truly suffering, and it really hurts to see them like that. I've even seen people literally sleeping on the sidewalk.

Like I said, there's a large chance that I could someday end up being homeless myself, so not only does it hurt to see the homeless people, it also scares me, since I feel like I should get ready to have to live that sort of life.

God, I really hate money, and the way it creates such a huge divide between the rich and the poor.


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30 Jun 2015, 9:00 pm

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You know, what's really sad to me is seeing all of the homeless people here in MA. They're everywhere once you get into Boston, and I feel like that, more than anything else, is a sign that the costs of living here are far too high. I mean, I know that a small percentage of them are probably scammers who just want to make a quick buck by pretending to be homeless, but the large majority of them are truly suffering, and it really hurts to see them like that. I've even seen people literally sleeping on the sidewalk. Like I said, there's a large chance that I could someday end up being homeless myself, so not only does it hurt to see the homeless people, it also scares me, since I feel like I should get ready to have to live that sort of life. God, I really hate money, and the way it creates such a huge divide between the rich and the poor.

having been homeless before, I know that it is no way to live. I know that if I was in MA I'd probably freeze to death. anyways, WP's very own member ASS-P has various threads about his life as a homeless person.



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30 Jun 2015, 9:19 pm

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You need to feel better about yourself before the situation can change.

Why don't you join a club or social group that shares your specific interests, so you can meet a girl or two that you have something to chat about, e.g. similar hobbies, taste in music, literature, games or whatever. It's always easier when you already have a mutual interest.


money everything cost money. I don't have much of it. that and there are no clubs for my interests. I've check meetup.com a lot and still none. if you like coffee chec, trips to europe check, painting check, writer check, but nothing for me. but its a liberal democrat liberal arts population and I'm a outdoor video game, shaving, shooting, money collecting, walks guy.

video games and gun people have to hide who they are, so we can't seek each other out without showing that we do those things. video game people tend to find each other online. but that isnt' a physical get together thing. and women are very hidden though half of gamers are women. they tend to get stalked and harassed if they speak or show they are women. the other hobbies are male dominate only women in them are gf/wives of male members. I always dreamed of having a gf to take to events but sadly never happen and given my population probably never will.

its quite depressing. though suppose if you're into liberal arts you'd be happy here. I don't like art and suck at it. I don't enjoy it either. so crafting, painting etc no thanks.

not that I can go if I wanted without my car I'm trapped in my house 24/7. in my tiny prison cell sized room. spend most my time laying on my bed cause theres not much space for a chair.


I feel for you, even if i don't agree with you (then again, that's my problem). For the last 2 months, since my stay in the hospital for colitis, I have kept myself locked in my room, primarily to avoid the d!ckcheesing d!ckhead I have as a roommate. I don't care if he was diagnosed AADHD after he was kicked out of the Army on a dishonorable discharge for being AWOL constantly. They say those of us on the spectrum are rude. This guy is always rude, not only to me, but his parents, his supervisors, the landlord, my friends, and the rest of the roommates here in the townhouse. I'm tired of him taking my food without permission, taking my computer out of my room, even with permission, borrowing my iPad without permission, using my iPhone for his personal business, constantly wanting to borrow my car, etc. It's bad enough I have to take him to work, since he doesn't have a car. I don't even get a thank you most of the time, let alone getting money from him for wasting my gas. If I do confront him, he gets pissy with me and threatens me with going to the landlord and have me evicted for not doing his bidding. Any wonder I've been depressed, suffering panic attacks, bouncing checks like there's no tomorrow, running credit cards up to the limit, and not eating well (I'm going through ice cream sandwiches, Oreo cookies, and junk food like there's no tomorrow. Yet I'm not allowed to say anything, or ask for help, because the only thing I hear is "Suck it up and be a man!"



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01 Jul 2015, 12:27 am


Watch this video. Maybe it will help.

I care because you are me and I am you. We bear the same pain especially because we are autistic persons.



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01 Jul 2015, 1:57 am

Because if they didn't care than it would only make it right for you to kill yourself and all would be for nothing. It shows that they don't truly hate you.



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01 Jul 2015, 2:01 am

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Watch this video. Maybe it will help. I care because you are me and I am you. We bear the same pain especially because we are autistic persons.

finding hope, ever elusive, is a tall order for a lot of us. I didn't find any until early in my fifth decade, and then only for a little while.



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01 Jul 2015, 2:10 am

quiet_dove wrote:
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speaking at least for myself, I can say that one eventually "ages into" one's AS. IOW one eventually learns how to make peace with the "Holland" life.

I've been waiting 28 years to "age into" it. Can you seriously blame me for being frustrated and impatient, and for having little hope left that that will ever happen?

sir, I don't blame you one iota. I used to be young and full of frustrated piss and vinegar myself. I speak as somebody who improbably stuck it out almost another 28 years, and am talking from this vantage point of old age/belated experience. it can take that long. the impatience and frustration [I bet NOBODY was more impatient and frustrated than me when young] went away as soon as it became clear better times weren't coming for me in my present lifetime. the sooner one makes peace with what is [rather than what one wants] the sooner some measure of peace comes along.

I'm actually a woman, just FYI.

And I wish I could feel anything but sheer dread at the idea of sticking it out for another 28 years, but I just can't. It's become pretty clear to me that I'm eventually going to be homeless once my parents can't support me anymore, since the cost of living here in Massachusetts is so high, and I don't think I'll ever be able to get a full-time job. Why should I have to stick it out through that eventual homelessness?


well at least its easier to be a female aspie even if just in dating sense or just a little bit. you don't have the added pressure of having to live up to a male standard. no childish things, musth be confident all the time, can't have emotions, have to be the provider, must initiate all contact with dating.

hugs. I see you made a thread. I'm sorry I haven't read it, just I get super empathic and I'm already depressed I haven't been readig other heaven threads as it'll get me down more. I read some of ass-p's few weeks ago and it got me down more :( feel so bad for him but nothing I can do. also worried about this coming year and the ssi cutback and being homeless myself.

e hugs if that's ok?



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01 Jul 2015, 6:45 am

sly279 wrote:
quiet_dove wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
quiet_dove wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
speaking at least for myself, I can say that one eventually "ages into" one's AS. IOW one eventually learns how to make peace with the "Holland" life.

I've been waiting 28 years to "age into" it. Can you seriously blame me for being frustrated and impatient, and for having little hope left that that will ever happen?

sir, I don't blame you one iota. I used to be young and full of frustrated piss and vinegar myself. I speak as somebody who improbably stuck it out almost another 28 years, and am talking from this vantage point of old age/belated experience. it can take that long. the impatience and frustration [I bet NOBODY was more impatient and frustrated than me when young] went away as soon as it became clear better times weren't coming for me in my present lifetime. the sooner one makes peace with what is [rather than what one wants] the sooner some measure of peace comes along.

I'm actually a woman, just FYI.

And I wish I could feel anything but sheer dread at the idea of sticking it out for another 28 years, but I just can't. It's become pretty clear to me that I'm eventually going to be homeless once my parents can't support me anymore, since the cost of living here in Massachusetts is so high, and I don't think I'll ever be able to get a full-time job. Why should I have to stick it out through that eventual homelessness?


well at least its easier to be a female aspie even if just in dating sense or just a little bit. you don't have the added pressure of having to live up to a male standard. no childish things, musth be confident all the time, can't have emotions, have to be the provider, must initiate all contact with dating.

Actually, I've had to initiate contact with men, in terms of asking them out, quite a few times, since I'm so bad at flirting, and there was no other way for me to let them know how I felt about them, other than asking them out. Believe it or not, us women are not born with the knowledge of how to flirt, and that practice is especially confusing if you're an Aspie woman. But that doesn't really matter at all these days, since I have no sex drive anymore, due to all of the SSRIs I've tried.


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hugs. I see you made a thread. I'm sorry I haven't read it, just I get super empathic and I'm already depressed I haven't been readig other heaven threads as it'll get me down more. I read some of ass-p's few weeks ago and it got me down more :( feel so bad for him but nothing I can do. also worried about this coming year and the ssi cutback and being homeless myself.

e hugs if that's ok?

E-hugs are fine, and thanks so much for them. And please don't feel like you have to read my thread. I completely understand being super-empathetic. (I actually just had a sleepless night after watching the first two episodes of Orange is the New Black, and then feeling horribly angry for the main character.) Just take care of you, okay?


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01 Jul 2015, 9:14 am

In my Civil Service job, Quiet Dove, I've met quite a few people who have a philosophical bent like you do.



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01 Jul 2015, 10:19 am

quiet_dove wrote:
sly279 wrote:
quiet_dove wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
quiet_dove wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
speaking at least for myself, I can say that one eventually "ages into" one's AS. IOW one eventually learns how to make peace with the "Holland" life.

I've been waiting 28 years to "age into" it. Can you seriously blame me for being frustrated and impatient, and for having little hope left that that will ever happen?

sir, I don't blame you one iota. I used to be young and full of frustrated piss and vinegar myself. I speak as somebody who improbably stuck it out almost another 28 years, and am talking from this vantage point of old age/belated experience. it can take that long. the impatience and frustration [I bet NOBODY was more impatient and frustrated than me when young] went away as soon as it became clear better times weren't coming for me in my present lifetime. the sooner one makes peace with what is [rather than what one wants] the sooner some measure of peace comes along.

I'm actually a woman, just FYI.

And I wish I could feel anything but sheer dread at the idea of sticking it out for another 28 years, but I just can't. It's become pretty clear to me that I'm eventually going to be homeless once my parents can't support me anymore, since the cost of living here in Massachusetts is so high, and I don't think I'll ever be able to get a full-time job. Why should I have to stick it out through that eventual homelessness?


well at least its easier to be a female aspie even if just in dating sense or just a little bit. you don't have the added pressure of having to live up to a male standard. no childish things, musth be confident all the time, can't have emotions, have to be the provider, must initiate all contact with dating.

Actually, I've had to initiate contact with men, in terms of asking them out, quite a few times, since I'm so bad at flirting, and there was no other way for me to let them know how I felt about them, other than asking them out. Believe it or not, us women are not born with the knowledge of how to flirt, and that practice is especially confusing if you're an Aspie woman. But that doesn't really matter at all these days, since I have no sex drive anymore, due to all of the SSRIs I've tried.


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hugs. I see you made a thread. I'm sorry I haven't read it, just I get super empathic and I'm already depressed I haven't been readig other heaven threads as it'll get me down more. I read some of ass-p's few weeks ago and it got me down more :( feel so bad for him but nothing I can do. also worried about this coming year and the ssi cutback and being homeless myself.

e hugs if that's ok?

E-hugs are fine, and thanks so much for them. And please don't feel like you have to read my thread. I completely understand being super-empathetic. (I actually just had a sleepless night after watching the first two episodes of Orange is the New Black, and then feeling horribly angry for the main character.) Just take care of you, okay?


I have to initiate contact with men myself. All my attempts at being flirtatious and giving hints I like them never works.....so I tell them I like them. After that, they push me away. :( It's not like I asked them to marry me or something. If I did, their reaction would be normal in my eyes.



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01 Jul 2015, 10:29 am

I, honestly, don't understand why a man would push you away.



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01 Jul 2015, 3:24 pm

quiet_dove wrote:
Actually, I've had to initiate contact with men, in terms of asking them out, quite a few times, since I'm so bad at flirting, and there was no other way for me to let them know how I felt about them, other than asking them out. Believe it or not, us women are not born with the knowledge of how to flirt, and that practice is especially confusing if you're an Aspie woman. But that doesn't really matter at all these days, since I have no sex drive anymore, due to all of the SSRIs I've tried.


well there isn't many like you. I've never been asked out by any woman. :( though suppose could just be no women ever like me or find me attractive.
you don't want a relationship? more to them then sex and I have a super high sex drive, but I still desire all the other things more even if just slightly :(


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E-hugs are fine, and thanks so much for them. And please don't feel like you have to read my thread. I completely understand being super-empathetic. (I actually just had a sleepless night after watching the first two episodes of Orange is the New Black, and then feeling horribly angry for the main character.) Just take care of you, okay?


yeah I can't watch any movies or shows with rape in it. upsets me deeply.

hugs. you too. open to talk if you ever need to.



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01 Jul 2015, 3:27 pm

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I have to initiate contact with men myself. All my attempts at being flirtatious and giving hints I like them never works.....so I tell them I like them. After that, they push me away. :( It's not like I asked them to marry me or something. If I did, their reaction would be normal in my eyes.

I think it is the depth of unkindness for somebody to push you away after you tell them you like them. :| anyways, I for one, would not push you away. but you very well might push me away. c'est la vie :shrug:



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auntblabby wrote:
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I have to initiate contact with men myself. All my attempts at being flirtatious and giving hints I like them never works.....so I tell them I like them. After that, they push me away. :( It's not like I asked them to marry me or something. If I did, their reaction would be normal in my eyes.

I think it is the depth of unkindness for somebody to push you away after you tell them you like them. :| anyways, I for one, would not push you away. but you very well might push me away. c'est la vie :shrug:


she pushed me a way. :( just wanted friendshipish