why do people care if others they hate kill themselves?

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01 Jul 2015, 4:35 pm

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I have to initiate contact with men myself. All my attempts at being flirtatious and giving hints I like them never works.....so I tell them I like them. After that, they push me away. :( It's not like I asked them to marry me or something. If I did, their reaction would be normal in my eyes.

I think it is the depth of unkindness for somebody to push you away after you tell them you like them. :| anyways, I for one, would not push you away. but you very well might push me away. c'est la vie :shrug:


she pushed me a way. :( just wanted friendshipish

at least you aren't the only one. I've had to live in the creepzone for all of my life, but it does get easier a bit as one ages. I do hope you avoid my fate.



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01 Jul 2015, 5:54 pm

To answer the original question in the subject line; I wouldn't care if somebody I truly hated committed suicide. There are a very few people I truly hate, but I'd be pretty happy if the ones I do hate did that. That may make a few people feel that I'm a horrible person, but I'm not. The people I truly hate are people who did something horrible to me or my family members and I hate them for that. I don't hate them just because they aren't people I would choose to be around or I disagree with how they are living their lives, etc.

There is one person in particular who did some horrible things to my son that he had problems for years because of. We all hate that b***h and if she killed herself I would literally throw a party.


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01 Jul 2015, 10:44 pm

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To answer the original question in the subject line; I wouldn't care if somebody I truly hated committed suicide. There are a very few people I truly hate, but I'd be pretty happy if the ones I do hate did that. That may make a few people feel that I'm a horrible person, but I'm not. The people I truly hate are people who did something horrible to me or my family members and I hate them for that. I don't hate them just because they aren't people I would choose to be around or I disagree with how they are living their lives, etc.

There is one person in particular who did some horrible things to my son that he had problems for years because of. We all hate that b***h and if she killed herself I would literally throw a party.



I totally understand where you're coming from, but I try not to imagine the people I hate dying and being happy about it. It makes me feel guilty, as if I should still be forgiving and care about people's lives even if they did the worst things possible to me. *shrugs* I assume I'm like that because of my partially Christian upbringing.



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01 Jul 2015, 11:00 pm

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OliveOilMom wrote:
To answer the original question in the subject line; I wouldn't care if somebody I truly hated committed suicide. There are a very few people I truly hate, but I'd be pretty happy if the ones I do hate did that. That may make a few people feel that I'm a horrible person, but I'm not. The people I truly hate are people who did something horrible to me or my family members and I hate them for that. I don't hate them just because they aren't people I would choose to be around or I disagree with how they are living their lives, etc.

There is one person in particular who did some horrible things to my son that he had problems for years because of. We all hate that b***h and if she killed herself I would literally throw a party.



I totally understand where you're coming from, but I try not to imagine the people I hate dying and being happy about it. It makes me feel guilty, as if I should still be forgiving and care about people's lives even if they did the worst things possible to me. *shrugs* I assume I'm like that because of my partially Christian upbringing.


That could be why. And it's probably a venial sin to be happy about somebody's death too. However, as long as you don't actually kill them, don't encourage their suicide or murder, and don't know they are about to do something like that and not tell somebody who cares and would stop them, you aren't technically guilty. There are a couple of people who if I knew I could get away with it, or if it were legal, I'd send them on their way for real, and when they go and if I outlive them, I'll be extremely happy, and I'm ok with that.

As much as I hate my mother in law and will be happy when she's gone and burning in hell if there is one, I will be sad for my husband and my kids because they love her. I won't care about my husbands siblings feelings though because I don't like them very much at all.

For the most part though, suicide is hell to the survivors. I've had two good friends kill themselves and it was horrible for me. I tried it myself more than once but only one time was a big attempt and actually landed me in the hospital. I'm very glad I didn't succeed, and things did get worse for me for a while afterwards but it did get better eventually.

Also, something a lot of people don't think of is that when you kill yourself that means all the douchebags and as*holes win. It makes you forfeit and lose. I know that sounds stupid, but it's true. And while many times suicide is an act of aggression against others to hurt them and show them how far they pushed you and make them feel guilty, it does work but only for a little while. People may never truly get over it, but after a few months or a year or two if they were close, it's not really something people think about day in and day out, unless they were your child, parent, or sibling or spouse.

I felt really bad about the one friend who killed himself years ago because he did that over me. He had a crush on me and fell in love with me and I was married. He was a friend of mine and my husband's but he was more my friends than DH's. When he told me how he felt I told him I didn't feel that way and he kept on about it so I cut him off. That's the night he went home and killed himself. It couldn't have been any clearer. For a long time I felt so guilty like I could have done something different. I never led him on or anything at all, and I didn't like him like that to begin with. Just as a friend. I was also married with a child and he knew that, since he was a friend of both of ours. Over time I stopped feeling guilty and saw it for what it was. A douchebag move meant to make me feel guilty. Maybe he didn't even want to succeed, just scare me so I'd leave my husband and run to him. Hardly. I'm not leaving a mentally stable guy for one who does that! Either way I no longer feel bad about it. I'm sorry he did that, but it was not my fault by any means.


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01 Jul 2015, 11:36 pm

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I felt really bad about the one friend who killed himself years ago because he did that over me. He had a crush on me and fell in love with me and I was married. He was a friend of mine and my husband's but he was more my friends than DH's. When he told me how he felt I told him I didn't feel that way and he kept on about it so I cut him off. That's the night he went home and killed himself. It couldn't have been any clearer. For a long time I felt so guilty like I could have done something different. I never led him on or anything at all, and I didn't like him like that to begin with. Just as a friend. I was also married with a child and he knew that, since he was a friend of both of ours. Over time I stopped feeling guilty and saw it for what it was. A douchebag move meant to make me feel guilty. Maybe he didn't even want to succeed, just scare me so I'd leave my husband and run to him. Hardly. I'm not leaving a mentally stable guy for one who does that! Either way I no longer feel bad about it. I'm sorry he did that, but it was not my fault by any means.


That's really rough, I don't feel bad for him either though. Someone willing to try to break a marriage for their own happiness isn't worth it. It's like trusting a turncoat.

That being said there are three people in this world that I personally hate and would not be saddened to see go. Truly sadistic individuals.



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02 Jul 2015, 3:10 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
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I have to initiate contact with men myself. All my attempts at being flirtatious and giving hints I like them never works.....so I tell them I like them. After that, they push me away. :( It's not like I asked them to marry me or something. If I did, their reaction would be normal in my eyes.

I think it is the depth of unkindness for somebody to push you away after you tell them you like them. :| anyways, I for one, would not push you away. but you very well might push me away. c'est la vie :shrug:


she pushed me a way. :( just wanted friendshipish


Who pushed you away?



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02 Jul 2015, 3:48 pm

Goofy: this is coming from my heart.

If you had been around when I was your age, I would have been delighted if you were my girlfriend.

I just think you have to experience life more. And experience people. What are you really interested in?