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09 Jul 2016, 8:39 am

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F m l... Hard...

Someone just came into my apartment after... um...well I just didn't want them in my apartment. Now I am paranoid and I just want to be left alone. I don't want have to deal with this crap, leave me be. I can't possibly hurt anyone when I am alone. This really sucks.



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10 Jul 2016, 7:23 am

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Trying to cheerfully accept a lifetime of anhedonia.

So far the best I can do is a sort of colorless resignation.


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10 Jul 2016, 7:26 am

-2, trying to make up for lost realities..


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10 Jul 2016, 12:17 pm

Resignation is better than anger, panic, or despair.

It's sort of like despair, only without the desperation.

What it isn't, is happiness (as defined as the absence of misery, not as ecstasy or even pleasure) or contentment or hope.

Desperation has more hope than resignation. Resignation is the leaving behind of the hope of hope. There is a very good reason why motivational anhedonia sis strongly correlated with poor treatment outcomes in depressed patients.

But, as side effects go, it's one of the most common and least debilitating. So, it is what it is.


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10 Jul 2016, 12:36 pm

And I hate, and I mean HATE, the song "I'd Do Anything" by Simple Plan. Somehow that song encapsulates everything I've lost and everything I still have to go through losing in a weeping, screaming meltdown-inducing way.

My teenager loves it. It was featured in one of her favorite episodes of Scooby Doo as a kid, it has good feelings for her. I get that. I want her to enjoy that. She has that right.

Without me weeping ruining it.

I just wish she wouldn't play it on repeat, at top volume, when I'm doing something like cooking a meal or feeding the damn kitten that means I can't get up, leave the area of audibility, and physically exert myself until the feeling passes.


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11 Jul 2016, 6:38 am

-2. The other office is a legit insane asylum at the moment. s**t is out of control! I'm not looking forward to how it's all going to blow up in the end. Feeling mostly anxious and uncertain really. I mean, what if somebody gets violent?



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11 Jul 2016, 3:45 pm

Rage. Self-hate. Hopelessness. Inability to feel pleasure. Easily frustrated. Intrusive thoughts about how nice it would be to kick the f*****g dog repeatedly.

Not that I'm unable to contain them. I can say all these things in a conversational voice, with no more import than "It's raining outside." I can merely keep silent about these things. Obviously I am not going to act on the desire to kick the dog.

I don't think kids vibe off my emotions. If they did, mine would be avoiding me. I wish they were avoiding me. I am not a great person to be around right now.

I hate, and I hurt, and I hatefully want to hurt others.

I usually look up racist jokes on the Internet when I feel like this. It's sort of a safe vent for the pressure. Not helping.

I really need to be the motherfucking hell alone.


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11 Jul 2016, 5:07 pm

I surrender to this fact:

My intent does not matter. All that matters is how other people experience me.

Conversely, my experience does not matter. All that matters is what others intend.

I surrender to this fact:

My worth and value is wholly and only contained in the eyes of others, primarily in how useful I am to them and how little I ask.

I surrender to this fact:

Others do not have this experience. It is because of my disease that these things are true for me.

I surrender to this fact:

These things will never change.

I have not surrendered fully to these facts. I can tell I have not because I am filled, alternately, with rage and with the hope that I will find some way of being that will change them.


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11 Jul 2016, 5:37 pm

BuyerBeware wrote:
I surrender to this fact:

My intent does not matter. All that matters is how other people experience me.

Conversely, my experience does not matter. All that matters is what others intend.

I surrender to this fact:

My worth and value is wholly and only contained in the eyes of others, primarily in how useful I am to them and how little I ask.

I surrender to this fact:

Others do not have this experience. It is because of my disease that these things are true for me.

I surrender to this fact:

These things will never change.

I have not surrendered fully to these facts. I can tell I have not because I am filled, alternately, with rage and with the hope that I will find some way of being that will change them.


You sound like what you need is a good divorce attorney. I'm sorry you feel so stuck and that people around you are devaluing your feelings and experiences so much to make you feel so angry and frustrated. I know how it feels to be undervalued and discounted, and it sucks. I hope things get better for you soon.


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11 Jul 2016, 10:36 pm

-20 no women respond to me ever despite having liked me I don't know why I bother continuing everyday :'(



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12 Jul 2016, 9:33 am

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-20 no women respond to me ever despite having liked me I don't know why I bother continuing everyday :'(


Not to be a b**ch or anything. Though I'm curious, have you ever had a positive feeling ever? Also DON'T have your friends jump me, I just would like to know that's all. :?

+10 Great morning so far.


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12 Jul 2016, 12:56 pm

wilburforce wrote:
BuyerBeware wrote:
I surrender to this fact:

My intent does not matter. All that matters is how other people experience me.

Conversely, my experience does not matter. All that matters is what others intend.

I surrender to this fact:

My worth and value is wholly and only contained in the eyes of others, primarily in how useful I am to them and how little I ask.

I surrender to this fact:

Others do not have this experience. It is because of my disease that these things are true for me.

I surrender to this fact:

These things will never change.

I have not surrendered fully to these facts. I can tell I have not because I am filled, alternately, with rage and with the hope that I will find some way of being that will change them.


You sound like what you need is a good divorce attorney. I'm sorry you feel so stuck and that people around you are devaluing your feelings and experiences so much to make you feel so angry and frustrated. I know how it feels to be undervalued and discounted, and it sucks. I hope things get better for you soon.


It's not him, hon. He's far from the worst offender. He treats me better than a lot of other people, and would argue angrily with those statements. It upsets him for me to so much as voice them, even though right now they are my truth.

What I need is to get rid of this damn disease that makes these things facts. Since that isn't possible, what I need is to make peace with it. Accept it, and get rid of the expectation put in my head by my Boomer parents that it should be any other way.


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12 Jul 2016, 2:20 pm

BuyerBeware wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
BuyerBeware wrote:
I surrender to this fact:

My intent does not matter. All that matters is how other people experience me.

Conversely, my experience does not matter. All that matters is what others intend.

I surrender to this fact:

My worth and value is wholly and only contained in the eyes of others, primarily in how useful I am to them and how little I ask.

I surrender to this fact:

Others do not have this experience. It is because of my disease that these things are true for me.

I surrender to this fact:

These things will never change.

I have not surrendered fully to these facts. I can tell I have not because I am filled, alternately, with rage and with the hope that I will find some way of being that will change them.


You sound like what you need is a good divorce attorney. I'm sorry you feel so stuck and that people around you are devaluing your feelings and experiences so much to make you feel so angry and frustrated. I know how it feels to be undervalued and discounted, and it sucks. I hope things get better for you soon.


It's not him, hon. He's far from the worst offender. He treats me better than a lot of other people, and would argue angrily with those statements. It upsets him for me to so much as voice them, even though right now they are my truth.

What I need is to get rid of this damn disease that makes these things facts. Since that isn't possible, what I need is to make peace with it. Accept it, and get rid of the expectation put in my head by my Boomer parents that it should be any other way.


All I can say is I felt very similarly to you when I was in an abusive relationship in which the guy convinced me that all the cruel things he said and did to me were my own fault because I was crazy and deserved it, according to him. I believed him until I didn't anymore and had to leave. It was the best thing I ever did for myself and I wouldn't have survived I think if I hadn't gotten away from him. He would have destroyed me from the inside out.

I wish you well. :heart:


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12 Jul 2016, 5:13 pm

EnmaLionheart wrote:
Not to be a b**ch or anything. Though I'm curious, have you ever had a positive feeling ever? Also DON'T have your friends jump me, I just would like to know that's all. :?

+10 Great morning so far.


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I was happy most of all last week during the few days a girl was interested and talking to me.
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13 Jul 2016, 4:24 am

I really hope you'll find someone soon, sly.



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13 Jul 2016, 12:02 pm

Nah, I think that's prolly projection.

Yes, he came from an emotionally abusive background and yes, he f***s up sometimes, but the intent to harm is absent. My family of origin was far worse, society at large has been far worse, and at this point my biggest abuser, based on the lessons I have learned from FOO and people in general, is me. He's trying his dammnedest to help me fight it, but...

...you can't fight facts. Matters naught if society is abusive to folks like us. It's the society we live in, and either conforming or being abused is just life. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :evil: :evil: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :shrug:

Bu thanks for giving a damn. We need more like you.


In other thoughts. Just found out that one of my biggest bullies from K-8 has been diagnosed with advanced colon and liver cancer. Shades of schadenfreude aside, her mother was very kind to my family when my mother was dying and she has 8-year-old twins who really don't need to lose their mother, regardless of how much I might revel in her misfortune.

Not sure how I feel about that one, other than schadenfreude and very guilty for schadenfreude.

For those who pray, positive and constructive prayers for her and her family would be appreciated.


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