scale of -10 to +10, how do you feel right now?

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-8, nothing much in my life to look forward to. Parents ill, can't find a decent job once this contract stint is over (management refuses to renew it), living with long-lasting personality issues and some chronic stuff, etc.

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I’m unlovable and worthless
My life is pointless and I should just die but on rope of all that work sucks. More a question of what’s not wrong which isn’t much

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i shouldn't be feeling so good because i'm very late with my studio project and i'm having money issues this month
but i'm still very happy

First, dying is not an option. Everything might seem like an endless stream of negativity, but it is not the way it seems. You just see a very distorted version of yourself. The way you perceive things, no one around you perceives.

Second, unlovable and worthless? I am sorry to use the cheesiest lines of them all, but don't you think you are being loved by people and you just don't see it, because the fog of negativity is blinding you?

In addition to this, worthlessness is a strong word to use.
Do you think you're adding no real value to anything? Why is that?

I bet we can find your value if we'd just open your eyes and turn you into the right direction.

I am saying it this way, because i have been through the exact same phases. Heck, i sometimes still feel like this, but during this feeling of worthlessness it is important for you to find a way to get back up. It is a hard process to go through, i know, but at the end of it you will see that it wasn't really that bad.

Just because some people might say something negative, it does not really mean that you are worthless. They just live in a world full of bias where everything or everyone different is being condemned.
Let them live their mediocre lives and ignore their empty phrases. They just talk to you this way, because their own existence makes them feel unlovable and worthless. The ones who shout the loudest are the most insecure and they should actually get pitied.

Trust me, it is all not as dark as it seems

Unlovable romantically
Family love isn’t enough and is implied. Family has to love you they were born with you. But if no one outside family can love you you’re unlovable.

I perceive myself exactly how everyone around me does. I stopped fighting how others saw me. Can’t fiht reality.

I have no value zero to women. Men are valued based on their economic status and my is terrible. I don’t have my life together accordyto society and never will so I’m deemed an unloveable loser who’s to be avoided romantically like the plaque

@sly279 I wish i could say it any other way, but what you wrote down here is bs.

Not every woman values a man based on their economic status. I have a wife who married me despite the fact that i have not achieved anything educationally, economically or in any other way. I had to drop out of high school, because my parents were abusing me both mentally and physically, and i never got the chance to make up for the lost education, until now. I am 32 now and i am starting to go to a community college in two months.
Does this make me a man of zero values? I hope not. She loves me for reasons that have nothing to do with a certain status. If she did, i would be on my own.

You just need to open your eyes for all the people around you instead of closing them due to you being afraid of having to hear exactly what you already expect. I know what i am talking about, because i have the same issues.

My family didn't love me. Do people who abuse their own kids and even go as far as wanting to end the life of the one they are supposed to protect really love them? That is not love, that is lunacy.

So what am i? A loser? Without any value?

I had to fight hard for everything. I had to overcome my demons, my worries, my insecurity and had to get up each and every time my head wanted to knock me back down.

I've felt the same way as you do right now and do you want to know the solution to the issue? It is rather simple, walk straight and forget about your own worries and insecurities for a bit.

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Most women do and the ones who don’t had millions of loser men to choose from, found one and are still with said men today. Exactly and your wife is with you how’s rhat help me? Go make a dating account on serval sites and read single women’s profiles and demands as well as their rants about there not being any real me or quality men or just men in general, despite being more men then women in my area, they say there’s no men to date.
You may yet be successful I’ll nevr be, I went to college already I’m an utter failure who’ll work min wage part time if I’m lucky. Nit a great catch to most women ho desire to have a middle class lifestyle and take trips to Italy every year. Your wife is one of the minority, I’ve meet bunch they all married or in relationships. I’ve never meet one who’s single. Probably cause women who demand middle class men have harder time finding one and thus end up single more then women who’ll date any man as long as he’s nice and they like him. Just like men who’ll only date thin blonde will more likely be single then men willing to date fat women in a nation where 2/3 the population is fat.
Just my theory though. But fact is most single women all have th list of requirements on their dating profile and rant about inferior men in social media and or their dating profile.
I’m not delusional, I’m not making it up, there’s quite a few such women on this forum who’ll will tell you men like me aren’t worth dating or datable. What self respecting woman would date men like me they say.

My eyes are wide open. Reality killed my naive thinking that love exists and women would date me cause I’m a great guy and not care about my life status, instead they say I’m not a real man, I’m a loser, I, undateable, I’m a mooch etc. I miss the days of simplbeing rejected cause I’m ugly. But I was in college and presumed to have a future. Most men want a guy with his life together(good job, car, place) have you wife ask her friends or female relatives if they’d date a man who has non of those. I’ve had female friends tell me sadly their friends wouldn’t date a man like me since I don’t have my life together and for most that’s important. Had so,e ask how I’d take women out to eat or vacations to Hawaii then told if I want to be loved I need to get a real job.

You need to open your eyes, you’ve been in a nice bubble. You don’t understand the dating market and what single women want. You’ve been married and sheltered from it, if you hadn’t met your wife you’d probably be where I am.so you got lucky. I didn’t meet any nice woman in high school or in my 20s who didn’t care about mans life status.

To most women if you were going to college yes you’d be considered a loser without value. They talk about it in all their blogs, shows and magazines too. They call use basement drewllers, losers, etc. it’s on wrongplant too.

I got abused by family friend growing up, so sorry you fsmily absued you. That’s not right. I’m glad you met your wife and got to avoid the dating world, it’s horrible for poor worthless men like me. Everyone wants to be middle clas. So dating poor man men’s never being middle class never having nice things, and according to society never having kids. Society says if you date a poor man you’ll live in a crappy apartment and never enjoy life so date men with good jobs and their life together and that’s what most women do. I’ve been rejected by college drop outs, who have no job no welfare, live off their parents who say they only date men with their life together but I seem like s good guy who shares their interests

Please be careful with how you talk to me. I was simply trying to help. There is no need to assume these things. You have no idea who i am.

You think i don't know about the single market? You think i didn't struggle just like you did? Do you really think i didn't feel like a loser for not having accomplished anything, because my priority was it to get out of my parent's home alive? If you really think that you are the only one on here to think so, then you are absolutely wrong.

I struggled for almost 30 years until i met someone who took me as i am. And i can tell you, that it was a ride until then.

What the fact that i have a wife might help you? Maybe that it will get better if you just stop being so utterly negative and just look at some of the positives? I went through the same states as you, sometimes multiple times a week. I was at the bottom, but i never let my own mind defeat me because of something that other people said to me once.

Stop being miserable about yourself, because women will only then perceive you as such. Start believing in yourself a little, then you will see that it gets easier.

Also, don't force yourself into any relationship. It just doesn't work that way. You have to try to interact with people before you can meet someone who might be a potential partner for you. And as soon as you have a partner? It doesn't stop there! It is unbelievably hard to maintain a relationship.

Most relationships that people got themselves into just to not be alone ended very dirty. Trust me, i have seen so many couples fall apart due to this.

Have a little self-respect, or otherwise it won't get better

I am not trying to be an angry guy who wants to harm you, i am trying to show you that you need to work hard, if you want to change something about what makes you feel bad...

Sometimes, Robot, people have to realize things for themselves.

I know, and i am sorry for being so intense about it.

I just see a lot of myself in him. A few years ago, i was in the same position..

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I just shot down to -10. I found out the new co-worker is married.

-9. Same old depression

I’ve been polite but you started by calling what I said bs

You didn’t mention you met her in your 30s and from what you said seemed to point to meeting her early on.
I never mad any comment on your struggles to get away from your parents other then saying sorry they abused you.

We’re about same age so it’s too late for me. Even if some lady did come along in few years I won’t accwpt as it’s too late. This year is the last chance but it’s not likely I’d find a woman who likes me and is wanting the type of relationship I need.
Once? What part of thousands of women telling me this did you miss? I fought it initially but years and years and thousands of women all saying the same thing is just delusional to ignore.

What positives are there for me? I wake up every day go to a job I hate then go home and cry to sleep. Repeat the next day. I have no friends my family barely likes me and I’ve never had nor will have a gf who loves me.
I exist for existence sake and it’s pointless

Positive never got me anyway mosrnwomen see me as worthless trash and won’t even talk to me in work related stuff. Women aren’t mind readers. Hardly anyone at work realizes I’m sad or lonely or that I even exist in some cases.

I meet woman talk to her online for few weeks then date for few months then we’d be a couple. So that’s how I’d see it going.

Sure sounds like yourbjust like others telling me to be happy alone and never get a relationship cause I’m not good enough for one. I’d rather try and fail then be alone forever. Any relationship can end, doesn’t mean you don’t try.

How many women rejected you? Did they ever tell you your worthless or not a real man?