Why can't I "kill" what's left of my heart?

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Silvervarg
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05 Jul 2009, 1:22 am

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Hi again, Silvervarg. I don't play "status-games" in this thread or elsewhere. I did tease you slightly about your spelling, though, for which I apologise. I note that you live in Sweden, and therefore English is probably not your first language, despite your fluent writing. I do in fact spell well, but that's to be expected, as I'm an English teacher.

Good to hear, it's very annoying to argue with a person who use (unrelated) personal attacks to try and gain an upper hand.

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Negative comments are still "criticism", regardless of their motivation- you may well feel frustrated, but that doesn't really justify making generalisations about NTs. We are not all the same, just as people with AS are not all the same. One of the things I admire about WP and about most of the people who post here is the tolerance shown for difference. I've been made to feel very welcome here despite not having an ASD and have been able to learn a lot as a result. It's because I value WP so highly that I strongly encouraged BrownBear to seek support here, despite his reluctance.

That should depend on your intention, if it is to make someone change, then it's critisism, not if it's a state of fact. Since I don't really care if you change, it's a state of fact. ;)
(I made a quick backcheck on an other forum and counted replys on one of my favorite discussion-threads, it had 72 out of 78 replys to the first post that were caused by lack of reading.)

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I disagree that my interpretation of BrownBear's posts differed from yours because I lack the ability to read text. From what you've written in your latest post, I gather that you interpreted his comments as an attack on people with AS in general, rather than, as I did, an expression of his own lack of self-acceptance. Because I do not have AS, I didn't take his comments personally, whereas I think you may have. Perhaps I'm making assumptions, but it sounds as though you may not have a job, supportive psychologist or caring family member. If that's the case, then I am really sorry, Silvervarg. I can see why you might therefore feel annoyed with someone who HAS those things but seems dismissive of them.

I never said that, I was talking about when you read my post. ^^
Well it's kind of hard not to:
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in my mind people with AS are the ones who have to change, we are not the majority, I'm the person with the defect, I have to change, Not the rest of the world

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Nature likes things different but we as humans are social creatures, AS strips that from us and thus AS is an evolutionary deadend

Indeed I don't, and a lot of others here doesn't either.

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Anyway, I don't think there's much point in me commenting on this issue any further, although of course I'll read any response that you wish to make. Best wishes, Jenny

As long as you are making progress, nothing is in vain. :D


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01 Aug 2009, 3:57 am

Woodpecker wrote:
I would strongly suggest that you do not try using yourself as an experimental animal by trying out odd combinations of drugs.

If you are feeling low then ask yourself is there someone who you can go and talk to about the way that you feel ? It might be a much better idea to get the things which are upsetting you off your chest.


Well, I am not human, so I guess it's worth trying odd combinations of drugs. And nobody cares about me, even when they do, they always stop eventually.

There is no one to talk to about this.

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No - I really hope you aren't feeling this way. There is that Autistic Innocence but it's expected; don't kill that part!

If you are feeling like killing yourself, is there someone you can tell? Please don't hurt yourself.


I do want to kill my Autistic Innocence. I want to be as wise as any NT.

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The only anger management trick I know is to do the opposite thing when you're angry, I go and hug my dog untill the feeling is gone.

I have cats. Will they be of any help?



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01 Aug 2009, 6:41 am

fickle_pickle, yousay you are not human.. I have simular feelings about my self. but I and you are physically human .. get a DNA test or another test if you dont believe me.

youmust acept yourself othwise this wellspring of bitterness will overflow. you are what you... that s all.


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11 Aug 2009, 9:16 am

scorpileo wrote:
fickle_pickle, yousay you are not human.. I have simular feelings about my self. but I and you are physically human .. get a DNA test or another test if you dont believe me.

youmust acept yourself othwise this wellspring of bitterness will overflow. you are what you... that s all.


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12 Aug 2009, 1:02 pm

You just need a good love-hate relationship. You'll never get rid of that last ounce of love in there. My oldest sister popped pills non-stop for years and used people, she still couldn't get rid of the same thing you want to get rid of. She killed herself a few years ago. She meant something to me, I can come up with all kinds of good ways to remember her, and I can get pissed off over things she did to me.

I can see your family badmouthing you if you ever decide to kill yourself. IMO, it's not even worth it unless they feel really bad about it 8)



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14 Aug 2009, 11:01 am

In all honesty I would happily pick up a heartbroken melancholic girl off her feet, not in an act of desparation, but in act of kindness. :)