Not sure how to trust my doc or any other medical person.

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28 Aug 2009, 4:25 pm

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But I did not change anything about my lifestyle.



And you are still refusing to do so. You've seen what this choice has done to you thus far, if you continue you will get worse.



My point was I had this lifestyle all my life and never developed diebetes. Then right after the surgery I come down with it. It was not me. My doc did this to me and he knew it before hand. He had the obligation to tell me all the risks of the surgery and he choose to leave this little detail out.



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28 Aug 2009, 8:50 pm

Fine. Keep blaming everyone else.


You know if you continue the way you have, you will die.


Then it won't matter whose fault it is, will it?



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29 Aug 2009, 5:23 am

We all will die at some point. If it means I die sooner and don't have to put up with the crap God did to me and the BS of this world, then I will be happy. Sick of living like this, sick of always being rejected by women. Death would be welcome at this point.



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29 Aug 2009, 10:17 am

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We all will die at some point. If it means I die sooner and don't have to put up with the crap God did to me and the BS of this world, then I will be happy. Sick of living like this, sick of always being rejected by women. Death would be welcome at this point.



Then quit bitching.



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29 Aug 2009, 11:09 am

KenM wrote:
My point was I had this lifestyle all my life and never developed diebetes. Then right after the surgery I come down with it. It was not me. My doc did this to me and he knew it before hand. He had the obligation to tell me all the risks of the surgery and he choose to leave this little detail out.

Your lifestyle (combined with genetics) is how you developed the borderline diabetes. The surgery didn't cause it, it just caused a bit of stress on your body that pushed it up from borderline because it was so close already. The majority of the reason is because of the lifestyle and genetics, not the surgery.



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29 Aug 2009, 8:06 pm

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My point was I had this lifestyle all my life and never developed diebetes.


Ever heard of the phrase "The straw that broke the camels back"? You were abusing yourself all your life, so don't even think about saying that didn't contribute 95%.

The surgery, if that even caused it, which I doubt, was merely the factor that pushed your body over the edge, your neglegant lifestyle pushed it UPTO that edge.



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29 Aug 2009, 10:44 pm

Unless you have a condition that keeps you from exercising such as arthritis and others, then get up and go do something. So you experience soreness, so what. That is what it takes to get used to it, and eventually you may find yourself not even getting sore anymore, or it may not last as long as it did previously. The same goes with eating food, in the long term you will find yourself happier because it will make you feel better. You can either let this condition keep biting at you until it kills you, or you can do something progressive about it and be happier. It's your choice. I realize change can be difficult for people with Aspergers, but it's sort of a requirement in this situation. Unless you truly feel you want to die, which doesn't actually seem true then make some changes. I would just hate to see someone die because they refused to move about, eat right, and take what they NEED to take to live. "This crap" is easier than it seems.



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30 Aug 2009, 4:58 am

I am on my feet walking all day at work. The last thing I am going to do is stay on my feet when I'm not at work. To me not exercising is a defense mechinanism. I will not make myself experence the pain I went through the first time I exercised. I would be a fool to make myself go through it again. I was never told the pain will go away if I keep working out. But I am not about to try and find out by being in pain. As far as food and diet, I have tryed those foods, they taste like crap and I really can't afford them anyway, they cost like 3 times as much as the other foods I eat.

My doc needs to accept the fact I am who I am and there is certin things I will not do and I will never be bossed around by anyone. He is judging me and pushing his own belives on me.
I am going to use my doctor the way I see fit. Not the other way around.



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30 Aug 2009, 7:11 pm

WOW, you are amazing. You're always like "OMG I tried everything and nothing works, f**k God", yet you won't even get up and exercise?

Your REAL defense mechanism is your victim mentality and your attention seeking. You talk about the pain of exercising the first time like it's some traumatic event. If there's tougher s**t involved in getting a girl than exercising, how the f**k are you gonna get one? Your doc doesn't need to accept s**t, he/she is giving you proper advice. blabla2 gave you some good advice and all you do is b***h some more.

You wanna die earlier from not exercising and eating healthier? That's fine, just don't blame God or anyone else. Junk foods don't give a f**k about your feelings, so keep reality in mind the next time you wanna blame and b***h. Oh, and how many times did you threaten suicide already? Better learn to tolerate a pain of a couple push ups before you even think about putting a noose on your neck.



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30 Aug 2009, 7:27 pm

Ah another 18 YO that thinks he knows everything about the world. Like what the fourm section "Haven" means. :roll:



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30 Aug 2009, 10:50 pm

KenM, problem with Diabetes is it's not as simple as it will flat out kill you, there are a range of unpleasant things that can happen on the way, gangrene, blindness, impotence. Any of those happening will make you feel worse, and I'm sure you don't want to end up in even more of a downward spiral.

Can you not find some middle ground, say try either dietary modifications or some kind of sport, golf maybe or bowling that you can find bearable? Unfortunate as it is, medication and management of your weight and fitness are the only options, there really is nothing else yet, and even the experimental stem cell treatments are more likely to be trialled on otherwise healthier subjects.

No-one does everything perfectly. My friends husband is insulin dependent diabetic, even though he cycles a lot and stays on top of his injections (btw, he has one of those compressed air devices, so he's not having to actually stick a needle in himself, have they offered you that?) but, he drinks too much alcohol in binges and causes a lot of worry with that.

You've been getting very prescriptive "do this, do that advice" I realise if you are depressed that's not the most appropriate. So I won't do that, but here's one tip, with food, I MAKE myself eat the veg first, get it out of the way. That way the nicer part of the meal is a reward- worth a try?


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31 Aug 2009, 1:30 am

KenM wrote:
I have tryed those foods, they taste like crap and I really can't afford them anyway, they cost like 3 times as much as the other foods I eat.

My doc needs to accept the fact I am who I am and there is certin things I will not do and I will never be bossed around by anyone. He is judging me and pushing his own belives on me.
I am going to use my doctor the way I see fit. Not the other way around.


You've got to be joking. The whole "healthy food is too expensive" is just an excuse used by people who are lazy and won't cook.

The doctor is doing his job. No offense, but I know kids under ten with a more mature approach to this sort of thing. Stop throwing your toys ("It tastes like crap" - I have to eat food that tastes like crap? I don't like it, I don't want it, but why do I do it? To keep me well and not feeling like utter sh*t) and Make yourself well. Otherwise stop complaining, keep doing what you're doing, collapse and die.

Everything you do in life has a consequence.

KenM wrote:
Ah another 18 YO that thinks he knows everything about the world. Like what the fourm section "Haven" means. :roll:


He certainly has a better approach to the world than you, even if its not the most tactful way to say it.



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31 Aug 2009, 5:08 am

This is the last time I post looking for advice. Everytime I do no one can see my side, Everyone is out to get me. Thank you all for your support and I hope everyone here burns in hell. Its about respect, not forcing what someone thinks is right on you. There are things i will not do. I exercise enough at work that is all they will get. I will not change my diet and be miserable for the rest of my life. I will rather eat what I want and be happy for a short time then be totally misserable for a long life.

I asked how my doc can see my point of view and I get attacked. Maybe if I tell him how depressed I am he will see things from my point of view and lay off me. I keep telling him not to bother telling me to eat better and exercise because I will not do it. But he does not respect my wishes and keeps telling me to do it. I have no reason to get in shape, nothing to live for.



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31 Aug 2009, 11:01 am

KenM wrote:
This is the last time I post looking for advice.



Good. Everyone is sick of your whiny threads.



31 Aug 2009, 1:23 pm

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This is the last time I post looking for advice.



:cheers:


(Sorry I couldn't resist this)



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31 Aug 2009, 2:15 pm

Ever hear this saying: You can't help someone who won't help themselves. Well it seems fitting to say it here.