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18 Oct 2009, 5:27 am

Does Asperger's suck? Probably. Would my life have been different without it? Probably.

But I am the person that I am today as much because of AS as because of anything else. I feel about it the way I do about my sexual orientation. I wasn't happy at first, but I am not going to waste time complaining about things that aren't going to change.

So, yeah, it sucks. But you're an intelligent person, so focus on the things that you can do to make it suck less; or to make the fact that it sucks not matter so much.


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18 Oct 2009, 9:11 am

I can relate to the first post. I do often wish that I had been born without Asperger’s, and I do think life is unfair. I often wonder what the hell I did wrong in a previous life to deserve the life I have now.

Yes, it can be positive and I know some people like having, and are proud of, it, but for me it’s made my life extremely hard and there are times when I absolutely hate it. My life would have been hard without it, but with it, it makes things ten times harder. It just impacts on a lot of things I want to do...and when I see my friends, how far ahead they are of me, it really depresses me.

I don’t know. It just seems sometimes like life’s is a constant battle. I have to fight for what a lot of people take for granted, but then again there are thousands of people like me, and some with worse conditions. It sucks, but I can’t change, so I do what I have to do and deal with it. As with everything, there are plus sides and negatives. Right now, at the age I am, it’s more of the negatives.



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21 Oct 2009, 5:20 am

I despise my condition. I don't believe in god, and if he's real, I'm pissed off at him. He made my life hell, and I'm surrounded by people with so much fortune. Good looks, personality, humour, I have none of that. I HATE LIFE.



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21 Oct 2009, 5:38 am

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i see NT's that graduated school with me that are married now, have kids, living out of state, making like $50,000 a year, have houses


Neither of those things are necessary to have a good or "successful" life.

Besides, there are NTs who don't have the same things either.



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22 Oct 2009, 8:19 am

I totally understand how you feel and i agree those who say of asperger's is great etc I say thats good for them but for a great deal of us it isnt like that.. I run a support group for aspies, see a specialist in it and have done a lot of research I know for a fact that in those with AS there are high suicide rates, imprisonment, social isolation, victimisation, difficulty gaining employment and driver licences etc. I personally find my AS leaves me extremely isolated, makes everything hard and causes me depression.



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22 Oct 2009, 4:39 pm

I'm sorry, but no person in their right, logical mind should actually LIKE having this.

All it does is make life harder: How can somebody enjoy having something that makes life harder for you? Suicudes, being ostracized, it all relates to Aspergers. How can you enjoy that? I for one, hate having it, and would kill to have been without it. Screw life.



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22 Oct 2009, 9:13 pm

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All it does is make life harder: How can somebody enjoy having something that makes life harder for you? Suicudes, being ostracized, it all relates to Aspergers. How can you enjoy that? I for one, hate having it, and would kill to have been without it. Screw life


I second that thought.



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22 Oct 2009, 10:48 pm

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All it does is make life harder: How can somebody enjoy having something that makes life harder for you? Suicudes, being ostracized, it all relates to Aspergers. How can you enjoy that? I for one, hate having it, and would kill to have been without it. Screw life


I second that thought.


Ok, so it makes things harder . . . should you say that everyone who has some ailment/condition that makes life harder should expect being ostracized, and dealing with depression/suicide? Point is, blaming your condition is simply saying you let it win . . . I dont know how old you are, but apparently you arent old enough to have explored much of what AS has given you in exchange. Blaming the condition is essentially saying, "You're having a hard time adapting." You have two options: either become lazy, good for nothing and labeled the family loser . . . or stand up, learn about what you can do with the condition, perfect it, and make a living. Quitting just means you let everyone else win . . . i learned never to let the others win. I may never be a winner, but i'll be damned if i quit or come in last place. In the end, the only one making life hard for you . . . is you.

This isnt meant to be an attack on you, or anyone else, but pessimism and blaming just one apparent flaw is NOT going to solve your problems. You know your weaknesses . . . now put what effort you have left to find your strengths. Nothing in life is guaranteed easy . . . no reason to keep thinking it will be now; everyone is having problems.


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23 Oct 2009, 7:51 am

I think aspergers mostly sucks. Ya, I live in the poorest county in Michigan and Michigan is the poorest state in America and that sucks also. A lot of things suck. Sometimes I love being aspie, when I feel that way I just go with it because it feels better than nullifying it by focusing on the bad. When I saw this thread I checked it out because I knew I'd see a bunch of posts from happy people saying "Its all because your attitude". Its like if I have a metric butload of bad experiances caused by AS, and wish I didn't have it, what can I do, go the the Wrong Planet Haven forum and let fly my feelings! If you love AS well great, but have a little compassion for a guy who has no where else to go to vent. Being positive is sometimes all you can do to get through this life, but I for one like to take the cork out of the bottle now and then and let all the negativity spew forth, and theres always a good forum for it. So I have a huge heart and completly love a girl and she's trying to give herself to me and I fail spectacularly and cant explain to her why and it's all because of AS....it makes me want to die sometimes. Its got its good qualities but anything that makes me feel THAT bad...I could just be happier without it ya know. I've got a decent attitude about life but it's still cold out here alone in the rain. SCREW AS



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23 Oct 2009, 8:34 am

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Everyday, I think about how if I only could have been born like everybody else, without this burden. It's not fair. Because of aspergers, nobody really likes me, nobody is my friend.


nobody really likes me either. i do not blame my AS. i do not blame myself. i do not blame them.
i do not know what i would feel like if i did not have AS, so i can not say whether i prefer to be the way i am or the way they are.

all i know is that what i look for and see in the world around me is not what most people look for or are interested in , and vice verse. so at the end of a shared experience with people, i can not say i noticed anything they talk of and they can not say they noticed anything i saw, and moreover, they can not say they are interested in what i found interesting.
when i am in a shared experience with someone, i add nothing to their richness of perception so they always are left feeling somehow "ripped off" after spending time with me.
they also do not contribute to my perceptions so i subconsciously shut down and do not listen to them. i just wait for the end of their sentence which i hope comes soon.

but i think i am not liked for different reasons than why you are not liked.

i am not liked because i have a disinterested disposition, and an aloofness and unconcern for others excitement.

i think you are not liked because you have a "victim" mentality and it is a self fulfilling prophecy because there seems to be a special type of intolerance to whining that people have.

the more someone whines about not being heard, the more people will ignore them i would think.

the best things come to those who wait.



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23 Oct 2009, 2:43 pm

Life is never certain. "Being patient" won't always make things better. Occassionally, you can do all of the things you can possibly do as a human to make something, or help something, and utterly fail at it. Life does not cooperate with one human being. Life is nothing. What happens, happens. And sometimes, you can't fix it.

Aspergers does not have any up qualities. If you didn't have Aspergers, it would only make you better. Nothing of value would be lost for me if I were to suddenly become normal, or just always have lived a normal life, in constrat to this crappy one.

And people who are super happy and super love life annoy the crap out of me. It's so easy to love life when they're the ones with all the reasons to love it.



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23 Oct 2009, 7:57 pm

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I dont know how old you are, but apparently you aren't old enough to have explored much of what AS has given you in exchange.


11 years older then you. I have explored for the gifts. I'm not sure I can find any. Sure I have gifts, everyone does, but can I definately say they are from AS? No. Would I still have had those gifts if I had been born NT? maybe, maybe not. No one can say?

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either become lazy, good for nothing and labeled the family loser . . . or stand up, learn about what you can do with the condition, perfect it, and make a living.


If you think I am lazy and don't work and don't make a living then you really don't know me. I pretty much work around the clock. If I'm not at work, I'm at home doing work. I am also in the process of rebuilding all the plumbing down at the homeless shelter as a non-paid volunteer. Lazy does not describe me. I'm pretty much not stop, becuase once I stop, my mind starts to idle and wander and it's got nowhere good to go. I can make a decent living, not be lazy, and still not be happy with the AS. They don't neccessarily go hand in hand.



23 Oct 2009, 9:21 pm

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I'm sorry, but no person in their right, logical mind should actually LIKE having this.

All it does is make life harder: How can somebody enjoy having something that makes life harder for you? Suicudes, being ostracized, it all relates to Aspergers. How can you enjoy that? I for one, hate having it, and would kill to have been without it. Screw life.



I'd rather be happy than hating my own condition and having it ruin my life. Do I like having it? Jeez that's hard to say because it's like asking if I like being me. People who hate having it, I figure they must be that badly effected by it to be so unhappy about it while I'm only mild or it's the people out there that cause them to hate their condition because they figure if they didn't have it, people will treat them better and accept them. But me, I'd rather hate those people and find the ones who are open and accepting and show me respect. The reason why I hated being different as a child was because I was being bullied, treated different, discriminated, bad things seemed to happen to me all the time so it made me hate myself. If I had none of that, I wouldn't mind being different. Now I don't mind it at all because my life is better.

My life doesn't feel that hard. I'm married, going to get knocked up again soon, I have a job (I'm in training actually) and I can drive. But I don't like having a learning disability but I don't get depressed over it. Do I like having it, no. I don't like my anxiety either. People can cause it so I stay away from situations that trigger it.



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24 Oct 2009, 1:32 pm

I resent having Asperger's. For me, it is more of a burden than anything else. I'd rather be socially gifted than intellectually gifted. I don't see how my vocabulary justifies the way I struggle socially.


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24 Oct 2009, 1:53 pm

I'm sorry about this DarkBBastion. I hope it all gets better in time. I'm open for pm's if you wish to talk. :)


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24 Oct 2009, 4:40 pm

I think it's the best thing that could happen to me, it keeps me protected from unwanted company.