Annoying person at school
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Thing is I was not very verbal when 18 and quiet, school was so and so and I was surrounded by morons as well that made my life a bit heavier. After that I moved abroad to Budapest (Hungary) to study at a Uni (Material-Virtual Design and Art Management) and there I also learned and developed more verbal skills because of the environmental change, was more calm and I felt I could evolve my weaknesses in peace without oddjobs breathing down my neck.
Life is one f****d up roller coaster. ^__^
Ok, so that would be a no on the parental units intervening.
Here's a thought. From the sound of it, you are already constantly on the watch for this guy. Would you be able, do you think, when you see him from a distance and he's watching you, to hold out your hand in front of you, arm straight, palm out, in a "stop" motion?
And can you buy a whistle of some kind? And if he starts to move toward you, or if he suddenly appears beside you, blow the whistle like mad?
I am very sorry that i have to decline your methods. I have always been extremely introverted and i get confused over doing small things like raising hands or sitting down when asked. I even get confused when my favorite seat is taken. So i never raise hands either. I hate taking attention on to myself. I think school is a quiet place for study and not a whistling ground. I don't think i would see him out of school anymore, because i have decided to use the latest bus time, no one wants to be late at school, right? I do, so that is my chance.
I have decided to suffer in silence. I know this is very wrong, but it is something i can do best, without losing my mind. Until the school really(meaning that i do not have to face him myself) is going to help. Maybe they will, i do not know.
I hope i wont die in some heart attack first
Ok, so that won't work either. There's nothing wrong with that.
If silence and dodging him is your choice of strategy for the time being, I'm confident you're the one best able to decide what you can do in the circumstances you've been trapped in. I'm wishing you luck at becoming really good at dodging the guy.
If silence and dodging him is your choice of strategy for the time being, I'm confident you're the one best able to decide what you can do in the circumstances you've been trapped in. I'm wishing you luck at becoming really good at dodging the guy.
Thank you for understanding
Try not to let all the "you should"'s shatter your confidence -- this is a very complex and involved situation, and you're more on your own on this one than any of us likes to realize. That means that you are the only person who even has a chance at deciding the best course of action for you to take. The rest of us simply do not have even a fraction of the insight into the situation that you do.
You're doing a very good job of realistically assessing what actions you can take and be sure of completing successfully. That's a huge accomplishment right there. It will serve you better than trying to take on something you can't handle and have it blow up in your face -- but you already know that, because that's what you've been telling us.
Good luck, and if you can do let us know how it progresses.
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I have never been in time for school in my life. I have no sense of time and always late 15-20 min (even though I ALWAY plan to do things in time and always think that I will be on time). It's my trademark.
I believe that my classmates would take it as a sign of a coming apocalypse if I would show up in time, they would all shake and stare at me frozen in fear.
No you can not change who you are or what gender. But it is what it is you're a girl.
You wanna be a boy like me? I'm much like you, quiet, never bother anyone and do not seek attention and yes, told to be quite attractive. Then I'm labled as a homosexual and picked on by a horde of guys, you want that instead?
I got a gold solver for you, next time step on the buss and smile at him. He will then come sit next to you. Then you muster in the most erotic soft voice you can fabricate "Do you want to feel my skin?", he will of course become very taken off guard and say yes, when he's as most excited you elbow him in the face. If you're lucky and execute your move correctly you might even get a bonus and send his nose bone up his brain and instantly kill him.
Problem solved, happy I could help.
I'm sorry, but that would constitute assault if it doesn't kill him, and murder if it does... Sorry, but you would get busted for that if ANYONE heard what you said before you elbowed him, and if you got away with it, are you sure you could live with yourself afterward.
I have never been in time for school in my life. I have no sense of time and always late 15-20 min (even though I ALWAY plan to do things in time and always think that I will be on time). It's my trademark.
I believe that my classmates would take it as a sign of a coming apocalypse if I would show up in time, they would all shake and stare at me frozen in fear.
Same with me, one time I was on time and they literally said "oh my god you're on time!"
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No you can not change who you are or what gender. But it is what it is you're a girl.
You wanna be a boy like me? I'm much like you, quiet, never bother anyone and do not seek attention and yes, told to be quite attractive. Then I'm labled as a homosexual and picked on by a horde of guys, you want that instead?
I got a gold solver for you, next time step on the buss and smile at him. He will then come sit next to you. Then you muster in the most erotic soft voice you can fabricate "Do you want to feel my skin?", he will of course become very taken off guard and say yes, when he's as most excited you elbow him in the face. If you're lucky and execute your move correctly you might even get a bonus and send his nose bone up his brain and instantly kill him.
Problem solved, happy I could help.
I'm sorry, but that would constitute assault if it doesn't kill him, and murder if it does... Sorry, but you would get busted for that if ANYONE heard what you said before you elbowed him, and if you got away with it, are you sure you could live with yourself afterward.
Live with myself? But of course. I would probably just go too a a café order myself a cheesecake and a cappuccino, grab a smoke after the snack followed by making my way home to play some video games.
Does that make me a horrible person?
I have never been in time for school in my life. I have no sense of time and always late 15-20 min (even though I ALWAY plan to do things in time and always think that I will be on time). It's my trademark.
I believe that my classmates would take it as a sign of a coming apocalypse if I would show up in time, they would all shake and stare at me frozen in fear.
Same with me, one time I was on time and they literally said "oh my god you're on time!"
I heard that as well ones, and then they asked me if everything was OK.
Not that they would care whatever answer I would give but the reason for my punctuality was due to me being up all night writing an essay that was total bull crap and I just made s**t up and mixed some philosophical bull s**t in there and they ate it up, got a next to top grade on that paper and i just laughed when it was handed back.
I always love to read the teacher comment on the last page he/she adds and what they think was interesting about it, fools.
They are just people...
God I'm beaming, where does all this love come from?
I'd like the see this school having a bigger picture of this. They should know that if that person will go work and living in real life then he might become dangerous to other people like me. After this bus thing i do not think that he doesn't know what he is doing. It is quite disturbing and sick. But you never know..
I am afraid what others might think if they see me in bus with that guy or at school. What if he lies to the school and tells that he hasn't done anything that i am making this up. I do not know if a mentally ret*d person is capable of this. But never know again..
These are all my paranoid thoughts i guess
By the way, i skipped school today.
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Actually, it would not be murder...at most it would be manslaughter if he died.In order to charge someone with murder, there has to be that INTENT that they wanted to kill them (mens rea), in this case, since she did not have a weapon and that it was on the fly, it can only be manslaughter.HOWEVER, if she did not tell the guy come feel my skin, and the guy just came up and touched her or implied to and she decked him, she could argue self defence and state that she felt he was going to assault or kill her.One has the right to use reasonable force in defending themselves in accordance with the law.
Failing that, go to the police and file a restraining order...then the school will have no choice but to keep him away, or they can find themselves in legal hotwater.It does not cost anything to go to the police... If they charged you money for filing a restraining order, that would put the fundamentals of justice into disrepute.
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If you are not that great at telling the person to back of verbally, Id recommend writing a letter or two and having the parties involved sign them.I have drafted some letters which you can use at your discretion should you wish to do so.
Your street address, city, and province
Your postal code
Date
Name of harasser
Harasser’s street address, city, and province
Harasser’s postal code
To whom it may concern:
Re: Harassment by you contrary to 264 (1) of the Criminal Code of Canada
Without Prejudice,
Dear Sir/Madame:
Please be advised that I have informed you previously on several occasions about the continuous harassment imposed upon me unlawfully by you, contrary to Section 264 (1) of the Criminal Code of Canada. You have been advised, by me, that you are harassing me and must cease from doing so.
Criminal harassment
264. (1) No person shall, without lawful authority and knowing that another person is harassed or recklessly as to whether the other person is harassed, engage in conduct referred to in subsection (2) that causes that other person reasonably, in all the circumstances, to fear for their safety or the safety of anyone known to them.
Prohibited conduct
(2) The conduct mentioned in subsection (1) consists of
(a) repeatedly following from place to place the other person or anyone known to them;
(b) repeatedly communicating with, either directly or indirectly, the other person or anyone known to them;
(c) besetting or watching the dwelling-house, or place where the other person, or anyone known to them, resides, works, carries on business or happens to be; or
(d) engaging in threatening conduct directed at the other person or any member of their family.
Should the above-noted matter not be resolved promptly during the time I am in attendance at school or on the way to and from school, I shall pursue the matter as I am entitled to, via other lawful means necessary.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Yours truly,
Your Name
Your signature.
Encl.
Your street address, city, and province
Your postal code
Date
Name of school
Schools street address, city, and province
Schools postal code
To whom it may concern:
Re: Harassment by another student contrary to 264 (1) of the Criminal Code of Canada
Without Prejudice,
Dear Sir/Madame:
Please be advised that I have informed you previously on several occasions about the continuous harassment imposed upon me unlawfully by another student, contrary to Section 264 (1) of the Criminal Code of Canada. The other student has been advised, by me, that he is harassing me and must cease from doing so.
Criminal harassment
264. (1) No person shall, without lawful authority and knowing that another person is harassed or recklessly as to whether the other person is harassed, engage in conduct referred to in subsection (2) that causes that other person reasonably, in all the circumstances, to fear for their safety or the safety of anyone known to them.
Prohibited conduct
(2) The conduct mentioned in subsection (1) consists of
(a) repeatedly following from place to place the other person or anyone known to them;
(b) repeatedly communicating with, either directly or indirectly, the other person or anyone known to them;
(c) besetting or watching the dwelling-house, or place where the other person, or anyone known to them, resides, works, carries on business or happens to be; or
(d) engaging in threatening conduct directed at the other person or any member of their family.
Should the above-noted matter not be resolved promptly by you as the legal guardian of me during the time I am in attendance at your school or in your direct or indirect care as defined by law, I shall pursue the matter as I am entitled to, via other lawful means necessary.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Yours truly,
Your Name
Your signature.
Encl.
PS...You should enclose a separate sheet detailing the time, place, manner, and such that the incidents of harassment took place.
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Last edited by Tory_canuck on 16 Nov 2009, 2:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Time is of the essence" is a legal term of art used in contract law to indicate that the parties agree that failure to meet all dates and times set out in the contract constitutes a "fundamental breach" entitling the aggrieved party to particular remedies. They have no place in a letter seeking discontinuance of harassing conduct.
A letter of this type should detail as specifically as possible the dates, times and places that conduct took place, and the specific conduct complained of. A general, "you have harassed me," gives the recipient no actual knowledge of the conduct complained of, and might not support an Information if the conduct would objectively be viewed by a reasonable person as acceptable, but for the particular circumstances of the complainant (i.e. the "thin jawed plaintiff" rule).
Personally, I wouldn't limit the scope of the remedy sought to "while I am at school" and "to and from school". A person is entitled to be free from harassment in all places and at all times.
Finally, letters of this type should always be sent on a "without prejudice" basis in order to ensure that they cannot be later used to limit recoveries.
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