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Kilroy
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20 Nov 2010, 11:56 am

if people with AS are so high and mighty, why are so many of them so depressed and suicidal?
and you rarely hear anyone highly successful say they have AS
we just assume and tell people famous people have it to make ourselves look better



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20 Nov 2010, 11:57 am

dumb thread is dumb


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20 Nov 2010, 1:21 pm

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We aren't disabled. By that logic, NTs are disabled because they aren't as logical as us. But that's rubbish. We're just good at different things.

If you keep going on about how horrible everything is, you'll get it stuck in your head, then you'll fail at everything because your mind will be full of negative thoughts about how "disabled" you are.


yes, AS is a disability
we are the disabled ones, NT's are the normal ones
its not admitting defeat, its admitting what you are, so you can work past it and progress as a person in the world
not sit in seclusion saying "I am proud to have AS" and then in the next thread, complain why girls won't go out with you


I'm not disabled in any way at all. And girls do go out with me. And I'm proud to have Asperger's.



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20 Nov 2010, 1:39 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
We aren't disabled. By that logic, NTs are disabled because they aren't as logical as us. But that's rubbish. We're just good at different things.

If you keep going on about how horrible everything is, you'll get it stuck in your head, then you'll fail at everything because your mind will be full of negative thoughts about how "disabled" you are.


yes, AS is a disability
we are the disabled ones, NT's are the normal ones
its not admitting defeat, its admitting what you are, so you can work past it and progress as a person in the world
not sit in seclusion saying "I am proud to have AS" and then in the next thread, complain why girls won't go out with you


I'm not disabled in any way at all. And girls do go out with me. And I'm proud to have Asperger's.

you're lucky then. girls unless they've got issues shun me.



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20 Nov 2010, 1:42 pm

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you're lucky then. girls unless they've got issues shun me.


You know what I always found? I spent ages thinking everyone was shunning me and ignoring me, but then I realised... I sit in the corner silent not talking to anyone. No wonder they aren't talking to me.

Recently I've been a little more social and it's worked to my advantage. Peers of both genders talk to me more and accept me, and if all goes well, I may have a new girlfriend soon.

So, I ask you: how do you act in school/college/work/wherever it is you feel you're shunned?



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20 Nov 2010, 1:55 pm

Eggman wrote:
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Some people may have issies with it or want to be "cured" But i'm glad it has made me different, and not part of the masses




You must be quite a young dude.

You'll grow out of that attitude in time.

You ARE part of the 'masses': you're just as human as everyone else.

And there is nothing wrong with being a member of the community of human beings.


You must be quite stupid
Now was it necessary to reply to the same post with the same basic reply twice?

And good for you.

Granted my differences do fall into Asperger's (which I still am not sure of whether they do or not), I wasn't so lucky, was targeted, bullied, and had problems in most areas of my life, so much to the point of severe depression, suicidal ideation + attempt, and being committed to a mental ward. And as for me, telling me to be happy just doesn't work. And it really is just down to luck, the same situations wouldn't necessarily cause depression in someone else, so the cause is irrelevant, but the condition doesn't go away. I've even had, relatively, more social success in the past few years and the bullying is gone, but that hasn't changed anything.

If you're happy, good to hear, enjoy it while you can, best luck to not lose it, yadda yadda, just don't go bragging about it, 'kay?



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20 Nov 2010, 1:56 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
nthach wrote:
you're lucky then. girls unless they've got issues shun me.


You know what I always found? I spent ages thinking everyone was shunning me and ignoring me, but then I realised... I sit in the corner silent not talking to anyone. No wonder they aren't talking to me.

Recently I've been a little more social and it's worked to my advantage. Peers of both genders talk to me more and accept me, and if all goes well, I may have a new girlfriend soon.

So, I ask you: how do you act in school/college/work/wherever it is you feel you're shunned?

People see me as aloof. I tend to isolate myself but in a twist of paradox I also try to reach out. I'm afraid of reaching out to people, I butt in on conversations because I feel people aren't talking to me and I can't really engage people when I meet them but I notice when I do initiate contact or other people approach me I get out of my shell and have little issues but I can't go beyond first base. However, I have more difficulty with females than males. And I do notice I have an easier time talking to people that are older of when I'm physically active.

In all honesty, I'm been making progress socializing but I have difficulty making friends and I was going through a bout of sexually-triggered depression on this forum and I was delivered bad girl news on Thursday about a girl I was trying to rebuild a friendship on in hopes of getting into a relationship with her - the girl in question is nerdy, socially inept, not the best looking and I suspect she's on the spectrum. But that same day this bad news was delivered, I went running a few hours later with some pretty good looking women and I had little issues introducing myself to them and talking to them about little things. Odd.



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20 Nov 2010, 2:54 pm

nthach wrote:
People see me as aloof. I tend to isolate myself but in a twist of paradox I also try to reach out. I'm afraid of reaching out to people, I butt in on conversations because I feel people aren't talking to me and I can't really engage people when I meet them but I notice when I do initiate contact or other people approach me I get out of my shell and have little issues but I can't go beyond first base. However, I have more difficulty with females than males. And I do notice I have an easier time talking to people that are older of when I'm physically active.


Thought so. This is exactly what I used to be like.

For me, it was all about confidence. People are generally fairly accepting if you just come across as a little aloof, but I was too scared to actually talk to anyone and when they talked to me I had no idea what to do. I also used to waste time trying to copy their behaviours.

Now, though, I just be myself (I know that sounds very cliche, but it's also very important) and I gather the confidence to actually talk to people. That's all that's changed. And suddenly, I find I'm fairly accepted by my teenage peers of both genders.

I personally find it easier to talk to females because they're easier to socialise with in a relaxed manner, generally speaking. That is, they don't expect you to be like them like a lot of my male peers do, just as long as they enjoy talking to you - whether or not this condition is met depends on the girl, of course, but there's plenty of them to talk to!

I also find that a lot of girls find slightly aloof guys cute, too, so it works to my advantage sometimes. I've also been called sweet a lot. They see this as a very good thing too :)

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In all honesty, I'm been making progress socializing but I have difficulty making friends and I was going through a bout of sexually-triggered depression on this forum and I was delivered bad girl news on Thursday about a girl I was trying to rebuild a friendship on in hopes of getting into a relationship with her - the girl in question is nerdy, socially inept, not the best looking and I suspect she's on the spectrum. But that same day this bad news was delivered, I went running a few hours later with some pretty good looking women and I had little issues introducing myself to them and talking to them about little things. Odd.


We've all been there, I've been rejected about 10 times in the past few years. But life goes on and any social experience with girls will help better prepare you for future experiences, as your own have demonstrated. Even if all it does is make you more confident when it comes to going up and talking to people, that's still very valuable.



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25 Nov 2010, 7:02 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
We aren't disabled. By that logic, NTs are disabled because they aren't as logical as us.


Um... despite not being NT, I must say that "logical" doesn't describe me at all. I've known quite a handful of logical NTs.