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hyperlexian
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10 Aug 2010, 8:05 pm

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I can't take life. I really can't. Maybe I'll work up the courage to kill myself.
I should've never come back. Goodbye.

killing yourself shows weakness, not strength. it takes courage to face life, with its sometimes horrific visage, and keep on going.

oh, and don't give up. cuz you MATTER to people, whether you like it or not. you can't just cease to exist.



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10 Aug 2010, 8:11 pm

Don't give up! Keep fighting. If you kill yourself, you're wasting 15 years. If you've made it that long, you can make it much farther. It won't come to mind right away, but you do in fact have a purpose. Who knows what good you could bring to the world? Killing yourself would be a waste of a great person that could benefit others or make a difference.

It may not seem so now, but there are people who love you, such as your parents, and they would be devastated if they found their son gone. That enough could throw them into depression or other trauma, or your siblings or relatives. There are many others who you matter to, as well, and would not like to see you give up.
There's only one thing you can't do in life, and that would be ending your life without hurting anyone else. Someone else will get hurt.

I'm sorry if I haven't helped much before. Things will get better. They always do. This is just a phase. You can count on that. :) I hope for the best.



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10 Aug 2010, 8:31 pm

Listen to these great people, Jookia. :) ^^
Giving up in that way would be a complete and utter waste of a great person with true potential.
I know what it feels like to not see the great human material of me, despite others saying I'm a good man, and I say EXACTLY THE SAME TO YOU. :)
Honestly friend - you are worth WAAAAAAAY more than you give yourself credit for.
Never commit the act.
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10 Aug 2010, 11:06 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
Jookia wrote:
I can't take life. I really can't. Maybe I'll work up the courage to kill myself.
I should've never come back. Goodbye.

killing yourself shows weakness, not strength. it takes courage to face life, with its sometimes horrific visage, and keep on going.

Trust me, as someone who also wants to kill themselves telling him hes a coward for being suicidal will only dump him worse. Or atleast thats how it goes for me.



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11 Aug 2010, 2:50 am

For once in my life, I don't have the energy to reply to you guys' posts. I barely have enough energy to stay awake actually. I'm laying in my dark room in bed on a netbook because I don't have enough energy to even get up and use my computer, which is under a meter away.

While I can keep focus, I'll address my issues.

I'm lonely and every time I see pictures of girls in the pictures of you thread, it makes me heartbroken that I don't have somebody. When I see girls around my age in the kids and adolescent forum, it breaks my heart.

It insults me how you guys try to help me when you don't personally know me. I'm just another sick person. Yeah, I'm ill with depression.



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11 Aug 2010, 3:01 am

Jookia, while I have someone I love that I am in a relationship in, it's weird, because I had hated him online for 4 years and when he finally got my number and called, I was just about as careless of my own life as you are now, so meeting him was no problem for me.

In fact I was about to drop out and everything. I understand your plight in a different way now, getting into a relationship means nothing when you are unsatisfied completely with your social life. You can not expect to get into a relationship and for things to become better... Because they haven't for me. In fact they've only made things more complicated. I've almost offed myself many times before already even then.

You should listen to these people's advice because the gift of giving advice is something that someone has to be willing to do, which is thus then kindness. People aren't forced into trying to help you out! People CARE, and some of us who are weird like we are tend to care about people we may never even know! It's hard on us to see someone else unhappy too! That's why these kind people here are trying to help you out.

I know exactly where you are at in your depression, because I have had untreated bipolar amongst hordes of other things, and suspect aspergers as the reason my bipolar meds just didn't work before for a good 5 years now. I have been there, and I imagine these people have been there too. I recognize your posts as something I would say as well, as when I become overly upset I tend to [throw] things, throw away things, throw things at, throw things period. Throw, throw, throw! and that is why I am posting too, because I don't like seeing others do what I do, because I know it can hurt you and I know it can hurt others too.

I really don't want to seem like a mean cruel person about this post, so please, I beg of you, go to sleep, wake up, have a meal you enjoy, and think to yourself: Well if I can't enjoy THIS in life, why don't I try to enjoy something else? Think real hard through all that muck about what, if anything, no matter whatever anyone thinks of it, makes you the most happy. Just make sure it isn't self-abusive, because that makes no one happy.

I really hope the best for you, take care!


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11 Aug 2010, 9:08 am

And thats were our similarities end. I kinda feel lonely but i dont really care and know if i go out of my way i can find someone. Im just lacking something to keep me going.



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11 Aug 2010, 10:19 pm

MXH wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Jookia wrote:
I can't take life. I really can't. Maybe I'll work up the courage to kill myself.
I should've never come back. Goodbye.

killing yourself shows weakness, not strength. it takes courage to face life, with its sometimes horrific visage, and keep on going.

Trust me, as someone who also wants to kill themselves telling him hes a coward for being suicidal will only dump him worse. Or atleast thats how it goes for me.

i've been there and it helped me (and a few other people i've helped off proverbial and literal ledges). every person is different, i guess. all i know how to do is what has worked for me - logic and stark understanding.



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12 Aug 2010, 7:41 pm

Ugh. I'm physically alive but I feel dead inside with guilt. I'm going on a long road trip to get counselling. Have a shot of my mug to prove I'm alive.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeX51YGFXc4[/youtube]



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12 Aug 2010, 8:31 pm

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Ugh. I'm physically alive but I feel dead inside with guilt. I'm going on a long road trip to get counselling. Have a shot of my mug to prove I'm alive.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeX51YGFXc4[/youtube]

glad to see you are alive! hope the road trip goes well. try to remember that you are worth keeping alive.


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12 Aug 2010, 11:19 pm

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It insults me how you guys try to help me when you don't personally know me. I'm just another sick person. Yeah, I'm ill with depression.


Then quit posting. You obviously wanted sympathy and input, or you would have kept quiet and wouldn't have made this thread. People who post in this forum expect helpful input.

So sorry we tried to help you, oh exalted one. On second thought, don't do anything to better your life. Just continue to sit around with the shades drawn, poking at yourself with kitchen utensils and thinking about why everything sucks, until you finally decide to really try hitting the abort switch. Yeah, I know about depression. It's not permanent, although it sure sounds like you want it to be.

Enjoy wallowing in your misery.



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12 Aug 2010, 11:44 pm

Blasty wrote:
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It insults me how you guys try to help me when you don't personally know me. I'm just another sick person. Yeah, I'm ill with depression.


Then quit posting. You obviously wanted sympathy and input, or you would have kept quiet and wouldn't have made this thread. People who post in this forum expect helpful input.

So sorry we tried to help you, oh exalted one. On second thought, don't do anything to better your life. Just continue to sit around with the shades drawn, poking at yourself with kitchen utensils and thinking about why everything sucks, until you finally decide to really try hitting the abort switch. Yeah, I know about depression. It's not permanent, although it sure sounds like you want it to be.

Enjoy wallowing in your misery.
No.

It isn't that simple. Having gone through pretty much the same type of depression myself recently, this is a case where the mind is too ****ed up to make up it's own mind. The person will ask for help, then retreat from the given help, double-thinking the help - thinking he's not worth it, or unable to take the help. Or just bleakness that the help wouldn't help at all. Also, an inability to make any decisions, constantly wishy-washy. So typically it does seem futile, but he's not ungrateful. In that state, he wouldn't know how to be grateful. (My parents almost abandoned me at the hospital for having these symptoms.) AS makes Clinical Depression complicated.

That second paragraph's counter-productive. If anything, not posting would've been better. For someone in that condition, being told that, he's more likely going to actually take it seriously and actually off himself - unlike in the movies where when someone's told that, they actually reform themselves and save the day. Assuming you wouldn't really want your post to cause him to kill himself, and therefore have you be part of the responsibility (such instances have happened), the "joke" doesn't serve it's purpose.

Either way, he's going to get counseling, and hopefully, some recovery down the road before depression leads to worse problems. Best of luck to him.



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13 Aug 2010, 2:06 am

Blasty wrote:
Then quit posting. You obviously wanted sympathy and input, or you would have kept quiet and wouldn't have made this thread. People who post in this forum expect helpful input.

So sorry we tried to help you, oh exalted one. On second thought, don't do anything to better your life. Just continue to sit around with the shades drawn, poking at yourself with kitchen utensils and thinking about why everything sucks, until you finally decide to really try hitting the abort switch. Yeah, I know about depression. It's not permanent, although it sure sounds like you want it to be.

Enjoy wallowing in your misery.


I'm not the one bursting in to threads of depressed teenagers and bashing them up emotionally.

Anyway, I'm still here. I talked to whoever I was suppose to, things are looking up. :D



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13 Aug 2010, 2:16 am

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Anyway, I'm still here. I talked to whoever I was suppose to, things are looking up. :D


glad to hear :)


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13 Aug 2010, 7:17 pm

Dnuos and Jookia

Yeah, you guys are right. I should have just let it go, having already contributed my bit to the thread. I seem to have a way of picking little things out and getting way more serious about them than I should.

Jookia, I hope you'll accept my apology, though it probably won't be the last time I do something like that. I'm trying to work on not being so overly negative, honest.



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14 Aug 2010, 10:01 pm

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Anyway, I'm still here. I talked to whoever I was suppose to, things are looking up. :D


glad to hear :)


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