heaven help those that are in the way of humans

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My mother once called me to come to her house and do something after she had come home and heard some noise in the flue above her fireplace ... and it turned out that an old barn owl had evidently fallen in ... and my rescue efforts and taking it to someone I knew who nurses ill animals gave it nothing more than a bit of dignity as it died.

On Big Pine Key in the Florida Keys, there is a long stretch of road with a low speed limit intended to help protect the native "Key Deer" that live there, but one lobster fisherman once joked that eating more Key Deer might help preserve the lobster supply.

There is no excuse for intentionally harming a non-threatening animal or bird, but I have also seen some nasty crashes and personal human injury after someone swerved in traffic in order to miss an animal.
Life is challenging for all.

Maybe the driver who ran over the poor bird might have thought it was already dead. Or maybe they mistook it for a bunched up rag or other item of rubbish that was dropped from a truck or something. Most drivers aren't as alert as they should be when driving to spot things like small animals and such that maybe be on the road.

Me and my brother were driving from Bundaberg with some friends of his in a car behind us. I swerved to miss a frill neck lizard that was running across the road, but my brother's friends....just ran over the poor thing . I saw it in my rear view mirror.

the nasty injuries to humans that are incurred by trying to swerve away from a lame animal are no more important to me than the nasty death the animal would suffer if no one swerved away from them.

I pulled up in traffic only last year, a kitten ran on the road under the car in front. I started to worry about it immediately, the car drove off when the light turned green, it was in the middle of the road and ran under my car. I jumped out and started looking under my car, I ran around both sides and the back crouching down to look everywhere, I could not see it, hiding anywhere, there were cars behind me waiting to go and the lights were green and in the other lane traffic was moving so it wasn't safe, I told myself it must have run to the kerb when I was around the other side, I moved off slowly just in case..and felt the wheel go over something, I felt sick, I looked in the rear view mirror and saw this little broken creature still moving a little
Loads of cars were behind me and they ran over it too.
I imagined what would have happened if I had checked more thoroughly, me picking the little kitten up in my shirt, taking it to someones house.

I totally disagree.
If you don't place your life in higher esteem than an animals or any other humans for that matter you might as well kill yourself now and give all your organs away.

well it happened and and it is over now. you can not be blamed. my point in this thread was that the unstoppable march of human development means that innocent lives are going to be squashed because humans just take the world and pave it over and then they hurry to their destinations and squash little sweethearts that are not lucky enough to be born human.

so now i get to you.
i am tired because i have flattened my batteries replying to everyone, and i have not much charge to help me think of a way to convivially address your post, but i will try.


neither are humans. humans are in plague proportions, so if you value the life of a single person, then if you can not value the life of a single pigeon, then there is some blockage of reasoning that you suffer.

my car is not as valuable to me as the life of that pigeon. that pigeon was never alive before it was born, and it will never be alive again. that pigeon is not able to be made by humans, and while it was alive, it was a "self" that was miraculous in it's creation. it lived and thought and wanted things and felt comfortable and happy and it felt also terrified and unhappy and it was a "me" contained in it's little head. can the technicians at mercedes create that? can it be mass produced with raw materials and a production line? no. your values are severely compromised by your lack of sight.



only people with an inbred redneck mentality devoid of the ability for attention or consideration would choose to kick me while i was rescuing a pigeon.

you may think of and identify with many people who would fit that description, but in australia, people would understand that i was doing a nice thing. in your depraved neighborhood, maybe i would be gunned down by unthinking toothless idiots if they were interrupted for a few minutes from their unstoppable instinctive directives.

your sentence is incomplete and does not make sense. i will not bother to fill in your logical pothole with an adequate word that smoothes over your dereliction of fluency.




you would deliberately run over an animal.
you say you are a right wing gun nut.

those that fly with only a right wing, fly in anticlockwise circles.
gun nuts are nuts with guns, and you are certainly a nut.

nuts with guns often wind up as one's with no guts.

maybe i am being harsh, but i do not subscribe to your words to me.

stay safe

Being born human does put us on a higher rung of the food chain yes, but to the Rockefellers of the world we are the pigeons on their road.

i do not think they intended to kill the pigeon. i think they just felt that their destination, and their business that they were going about, was more important than the pigeons terror and they considered that a small bird is not worth the effort to steer around.

Nice stereotyping

you ignorant douche.

Because he's a right winger and is anti-gun control, he's selfish and irresponsible with guns.

And nice cheap ass attack on his character because of his incomplete sentence. That's a mistake and nothing more.

That is for me the crux of the issue and this combination of selfishness and indifference is most often the source of people's cruelty towards vulnerable creatures.

Witnessing it is a gut-wrenching experience and such images tend to haunt me for years.

Don't worry about it. pigeons and squirrels are not endangered species. If you stopped in the middle of the road to help the pigeon, you might have only ended up with a wrecked car and possibly getting your ass kicked. If you crash into somebody or cause somebody when dodging and animal in the road, you are likely to get sued. if there is ever another animal in the road, it is best for all concerned if you run it over or let it get run over.

by responding to the initial post in this manner you've illustrated the difference between people who are motivated by conscience and those who are motivated by consequence.

i'd trust the former with my life and the latter with nothing.

i should be asleep and i will try to get there but lovely you.