Between a rock and a hard place

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bleh12345
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28 Jul 2014, 2:51 pm

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28 Jul 2014, 5:50 pm

I'm a NYer, as you know.

Basically, the poor and middle class, for the most part, are unable to afford living in the Borough of Manhattan below 96th Street. Above 96th Street, there are good and bad areas in Manhattan.

Parts of Brooklyn have become unaffordable due to "gentrification." Other parts, though, still have (expensive) but manageable rents (let's say about $1,200 a month for a one bedroom). There are also some really "ghettoized" parts of Brooklyn, though that's declined somewhat over the past 10 years. Rents are quite high in NYC. However, salaries tend to be relatively high as well (except, of course, for the retail sector).

Parts of Queens: the same as Brooklyn. There are "gentrified" parts of Queens. There are others (usually relatively far from the subway), which have more manageable rents. There are actually many nice parts of Queens--but they're usually relatively far from the subway.

The Bronx: Most of the Bronx ranges from somewhat bad to very bad. There are nice pockets in the northwest part (Riverdale) and the Throgs Neck section. I believe some of the "not so bad" parts are getting better. The really bad parts, however, are still bad.

Staten Island: Might as well not be part of NYC--but I believe there will an influx into Staten Island soon, especially near the buses, the ferry, and the Staten Island Rapid Transit. There are a few bad parts; but most of it is residential. It is part of NYC, though, despite what people say LOL.

Safety wise: for the most part, NYC is much safer than it was 20-30 years ago, even in the "bad" areas.



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29 Jul 2014, 11:41 pm

bleh12345 wrote:
Mhm. Who will work at the grocery stores, who will be the medical assistants, who will take out your trash, who will be a janitor, fast food worker, and all of the other crappy low paying occupations?

Middle class teenagers? Maybe not the janitor and the garbage man but most of the fast fast and retail seems to be done by high school and college age.
Is medical assistant considered to be a menial job?
kraftiekortie wrote:
Basically, the poor and middle class, for the most part, are unable to afford living in the Borough of Manhattan below 96th Street.

Isn't Hell's Kitchen below 96th Street? Is that still poor or is my info out of date? What about the Village? Does that have poor people? Don't they have rent control? How do they manage the influx of people flocking to apartments being rented below their actual value?
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Staten Island: Might as well not be part of NYC--but I believe there will an influx into Staten Island soon, especially near the buses, the ferry, and the Staten Island Rapid Transit.

So New York is getting full and people move to Staten Island because they'd rather live in a place that's technically a part of NYC instead of one of the surrounding counties? Why don't they just consolidate a couple of nearby counties into new burroughs? It worked the last they tried it.



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30 Jul 2014, 7:28 am

Many people also move to adjacent parts of New Jersey. I can't do that, though, because my job requires residence in New York City, and adjacent suburban parts of NYC within New York State.



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31 Jul 2014, 1:12 am

What sort of job?