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kraftiekortie
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03 Jan 2015, 7:47 pm

Have you ever spoken to Screen Name? She reminds me of you a little bit.

Do you like Dali and Picasso? I find that to be good modern art.



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03 Jan 2015, 10:28 pm

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Have you ever spoken to Screen Name? She reminds me of you a little bit.

I don't think I've ever talked to her, no. There's someone who joined in 2013 but has made no posts named Screenname, you don't mean her?


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Do you like Dali and Picasso? I find that to be good modern art.

I do but I like less known too. People using unusual ways of producing their art, and displaying it, and seeing their uniqueness being celebrated, and protected, comforts me. I wish for some of that protection, too.



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03 Jan 2015, 10:40 pm

If you're ever in Baltimore you should check out American Visionary Arts Museum, http://www.avam.org/

They have different exhibitions, but usually show art made of very unusual media, typically by mentally ill or non-NT individuals, though not always.



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03 Jan 2015, 10:52 pm

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If you're ever in Baltimore you should check out American Visionary Arts Museum, http://www.avam.org/

They have different exhibitions, but usually show art made of very unusual media, typically by mentally ill or non-NT individuals, though not always.

Thank you for the suggestion.



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04 Jan 2015, 8:58 am

Hi Waterfall:

Yes, I like many kinds of modern art from many different sorts of artists.

Screen name is a person with about 600 posts who has three kids. She has, primarily, a speech production problem.



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04 Jan 2015, 9:30 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Hi Waterfall:

Yes, I like many kinds of modern art from many different sorts of artists.

Screen name is a person with about 600 posts who has three kids. She has, primarily, a speech production problem.

I would like to find her but don't know how, do you have anything that will help me link to her, when I search I get nothing or the one time the system told me someone but that's the person it said 0 posts.



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04 Jan 2015, 10:13 am

I think Screen_name is spelled like this. You might have type in the "_"



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04 Jan 2015, 10:41 am

Hi Waterfalls,

I found her. I revived a thread from October from her so you could see her. She's in "Members Only."

I think she's busy with her family--that's why she hasn't posted recently.

It's spelled: screen_name



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04 Jan 2015, 11:53 am

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My therapist told me this week stuff I didn't like and do not understand about acting, not his words, so people won't think I'm weak because apparently people usually look for anything they can label weakness and jump to judge and avoid and hurt whoever seems weak.....I don't understand that at all. He seemed almost surprised I don't see that or live that way, and that's frightening me too because he sees a lot of people with AS and I know we're all different.....but still.

I don't think I have it in me to pretend like this and if I understood right (and I don't know if I did) the acting to manage other people is something I'd have to do with everyone. I mean, if that's true, I guess no wonder I don't have any friends as I don't understand or so that. I thought If I was friends with someone, I could relax and be myself. Consider their preferences and try to be thoughtful, but that being friends I thought meant not having to manage the other person or pretend very much.

I guess I just really don't understand and don't want to understand about manipulating and managing people. But apparently I need to learn. And I just don't want to go there....

I have heard people (mostly those at work) say, "perception is reality". And, they will say or do things to manage other’s perception (could be a colleague, a boss, a customer, etc.) of a product, a team, themselves, etc. It seems phony. And, personally, I refuse to do this.



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04 Jan 2015, 4:58 pm

I wish I could say otherwise:

But this is the reality: In the "real world," perception very often IS reality.



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04 Jan 2015, 6:20 pm

Perception is reality, you're both right and I am too upset, to cope with the negativity that comes with being myself but if I could stop pretending that's what I crave is to just be and not have to modify everything, not for others actual comfort because I don't mind that; it's the modifying for pretending so everything can present as expected, the normal way, that's too much.

But, the alternative is worse.

When I'm stronger it's easier to look for a middle path, maybe there will be some small things for me that I can do just because. Not things that inconvenience of offend, that's not what I want. Just little things like putting my head down Or leaning back when I feel ill rather than sitting up bravely because it's expected and looks weird if I do what I want, maybe I will try to find a way and accept that it won't seem normal to other people and I hope I'm hurting no one, maybe something like that won't be too much of a drag on the normality people need.



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04 Jan 2015, 6:31 pm

I think you should stick to your guns, Waterfalls. You're a mother. That's credibility enough to act yourself without judgement. Just be yourself. I like you that way.



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04 Jan 2015, 7:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think you should stick to your guns, Waterfalls. You're a mother. That's credibility enough to act yourself without judgement. Just be yourself. I like you that way.

Thank you KraftieKortie



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05 Jan 2015, 12:37 am

Waterfalls wrote:
I guess I just really don't understand and don't want to understand about manipulating and managing people. But apparently I need to learn. And I just don't want to go there....


I felt exactly the same way but in my job its a matter of self preservation to set and maintain good boundaries. I would also say that its important even outside of work to do the same thing. Unfortunately human society is more opportunistic than it is co-operative. I denied it for a long time but this is just human nature unfortunately. Very few people have a developed sense of altruism and many people think its okay to take advantage of others. Being highly principled and honest in life has really backfired on me.

What you do in your life is of course up to you. I learned the hard way though.


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