Why aren't I good enough for a woman how I am?

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marshall
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30 May 2016, 10:28 am

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you remind me of a toddler who wants to be picked up by their mother and coddled.
toddlers play on sympathy from their parents. like a little boy who falls over and grazes his knee, and starts to wail at his mother to come and inspect his graze and then be "mortified by the grievance of it", and start to cry herself in pity for him, and pick him up and whatever.

when you are no longer a child, the "sad little boy who cut his knee" routine no longer works (although i never tried it because i am autistic and could not care for others attentions). people expect you to stand on your own 2 feet and deal with things yourself, and it is not good to moan and cry and throw tantrums because nobody is there to say "oh my god you little darling!! ! let me pick you up and kiss your wounds better"

but i know you will continue to feel as raw and ripped off as you do because you are caught in a psychological trap that you will maybe never escape.

It seems like a large segment of people are filled with disgust when they see "weakness" in a men. I think it must go back to warrior DNA. I don't know if "strength" is defined as a delusional notion of control over all circumstances, or merely the ability to squelch out all negative emotion in circumstances that are beyond one's control.

I think one of the most fundamental things that are beyond our control are our own mortality and the inherent loneliness and emptiness of standard modern existence. I think if Sly had a purpose in his life it would stop him from persevering on finding a SO. Unfortunately, a minimum wage job isn't going to provide him with any sense of purpose.



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30 May 2016, 10:43 am

marshall wrote:
b9 wrote:
you remind me of a toddler who wants to be picked up by their mother and coddled.
toddlers play on sympathy from their parents. like a little boy who falls over and grazes his knee, and starts to wail at his mother to come and inspect his graze and then be "mortified by the grievance of it", and start to cry herself in pity for him, and pick him up and whatever.

when you are no longer a child, the "sad little boy who cut his knee" routine no longer works (although i never tried it because i am autistic and could not care for others attentions). people expect you to stand on your own 2 feet and deal with things yourself, and it is not good to moan and cry and throw tantrums because nobody is there to say "oh my god you little darling!! ! let me pick you up and kiss your wounds better"

but i know you will continue to feel as raw and ripped off as you do because you are caught in a psychological trap that you will maybe never escape.

It seems like a large segment of people are filled with disgust when they see "weakness" in a men. I think it must go back to warrior DNA. I don't know if "strength" is defined as a delusional notion of control over all circumstances, or merely the ability to squelch out all negative emotion in circumstances that are beyond one's control.

who cares anyway? it does not matter whether they see me as weak or anything else. if they come to grief through some sort of misadventure, then i will be always looking the other way and therefore not be suspected of responsibility in any way for it.



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30 May 2016, 10:57 am

sly, I still think you should try antidepressants. I know you have been reluctant, but they really do help.

You are living in an angry world of your own making. You need to get out of it, you've been there too long.



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30 May 2016, 3:35 pm

I haven't bothered reading all of the answers, but sly, you're clearly depressed. You rage and cry and catastrophize. No amount of whatever BS people will say here that you are the only one responsible for you people say matters when you the reality is that free-will probably doesn't even f*****g exist. Now go get on some drugs and try some therapy to make yourself happy. I bet that if you'd find a woman who was good enough and then you'd constantly be upset in the relationship anyways because you're an unhappy person. You'd be constantly worried that she was thinking poorly of you, you'd be reading too much into her actions and words, god knows how you'd deal with arguments, etc.


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30 May 2016, 3:52 pm

Hey I am poor, however other things aside from money make me rich in other ways. Being poor is not that bad unless you are barely surviving. But it may be difficult if you are after money. Have you ever assessed whether you have talents?



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30 May 2016, 3:59 pm

Sly. As long as you don't tell anyone you are planning to kill yourself, you will not lose your rights. I'm 100% positive you have nothing to lose by talking to a psychologist. Ask a family member for help finding someone if you need to.

It's better to talk to someone who is professionally trained than expect random people on a message board for autism to be 100% helpful. Some people here just do not get that you can't "criticize" a person in your situation into having a "better attitude". They do not understand. Getting angry at them won't make them understand. You need to talk to someone who actually knows the right things to say. Otherwise you'll just keep getting yourself more upset.



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30 May 2016, 4:08 pm

Aniihya wrote:
Hey I am poor, however other things aside from money make me rich in other ways. Being poor is not that bad unless you are barely surviving. But it may be difficult if you are after money. Have you ever assessed whether you have talents?



True has anyone tell you that "Money does not bring happiness(sp?)" <---Do you think that sly should know that saying Aniihya?


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30 May 2016, 4:15 pm

I think so. Despite my situation, I gladly help people who are just as unfortunate or may be unfortunate in another way. I feel enriched by being altruistic. No amount of money can give me the satisfaction a grateful "thank you" can give me.

Money does not buy happiness. On one hand, it can lead you to be in debt and on the other, if you get more money, greed begins to take over and then your longing for money is never satisfied.

If I won the lottery, I'd probably stow it on a bank account so I am secured with a modest life style and I would probably put a portion of it towards a center for people with learning disabilities or sponsor a program that assists the handicapped in finding employment. Otherwise, I wouldn't know what to do with money.



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30 May 2016, 4:44 pm

sly279 wrote:
Why must men have to change who they are. I can't change being poor it's something your born into and die with. Some lucky few get out but I have the deck stacked against me being born wrong with aspergers.
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None of your assertions is correct.

Men in general don't have to change WHO they are to appeal to women. We all have to grow and work on ourselves in order to form significant bonds with others, blaming others, bitterness and hatred are huge repellents for virtually anybody, regardless of sex.

I was born with AS and in extreme poverty, in a violent and abusive environment. I'm doing well now. It had absolutely nothing to do with "luck", and it's not at all that uncommon.


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i'm not sure how to help you, sly, as suggestions seem to be taken as insults or impossibilities. the response i hope to get is: i'm not sure that will work, but i'll give it a try, as what i'm doing now isn't working.


That sums up perfectly why communication between you and others is so difficult, basically impossible.


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30 May 2016, 9:29 pm

i rarely notice which sub-forum i'm in when i post. just checked and saw this is the haven. hugs to sly.