Cynical lack of compassion

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28 May 2018, 6:53 am

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^ Yes, that is very true, too. Anhedonia causes the most profound kind of apathy, it saps your ability to even imagine that there are other states of mind that you could ever be in.


This is exactly what I was trying to say. When I am down, I cannot imagine ever feeling good again. It is only the repetition (pattern) over so many, many years that keeps me "sane" when I am down. Cognitively, I know it will pass. But the reality I experience is that it never will pass and I will never experience anything but doom ever again. Cognitively I just hang in there and do the best I can and eventually it passes.

On the flip side, when I am content and happy and doing well, I can't imagine how I could EVER get down again, and I think, well, I've conquered that one! Hah! :D And cognitively I know I will. The mind is a curious thing.


The mind is most certainly a curious thing.

It would be nice to see examples of what has helped people with depression - perhaps on another thread?

I know time is a big factor in healing but I hear so many stories of people being depressed it may be helpful to have some ideas of what has helped others.

For example, what I think caused my latest bout of depression was burnout - what I think helped me get to the other side was rest, relaxation, self-compassion and routine. Also tackling tasks one at a time in a methodic fashion. Breaking things down into smaller task so I could feel like I accomplished something for myself. Taking back control slowly and gently. And most importantly realising there is hope again.

Shall we start another thread on this?


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01 Jun 2018, 7:02 am

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I apologize to Ezra for being rude. It doesn't matter. I'll be gone soon enough. The post hit a nerve because I've dealt with people who talk like that to me, being sarcastic when I'm already defeated. They seem to revel in hurting others and causing pain. None of it matters though, so be it...


I appreciate what you had to say. It gave me perspective.



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01 Jun 2018, 7:16 am

I have always had a very strong will to survive and keep striving no matter how bad off I am. I don't consider this any kind of virtue. More like a primal defense mechanism. Something in me just won't allow me to feel certain things. Keeps me from falling into a dark pit. Maybe it's just fear.



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01 Jun 2018, 12:58 pm

EzraS wrote:
I have always had a very strong will to survive and keep striving no matter how bad off I am. I don't consider this any kind of virtue. More like a primal defense mechanism. Something in me just won't allow me to feel certain things. Keeps me from falling into a dark pit. Maybe it's just fear.


Sounds better than fear to me.

I'm the same way.

Well, I Know that I am; but I haven't had it officially diagnosed.


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01 Jun 2018, 2:19 pm

For fun, I've responded to threads the way I REALLY want to, only to delete them moments later. Some of my snarkier comments have been-

"Grow a pair!"
"Stop your blodclot whining and do something about it!"
"If your neighborhood sucks so bad, them f*cking move, dammit!"
"Yeah, feeling sorry for yourself will REALLY advance you in life." :roll:
And so on.

Cynical lack of compassion? Yeah. I can do that.



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01 Jun 2018, 2:52 pm

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For fun, I've responded to threads the way I REALLY want to, only to delete them moments later. Some of my snarkier comments have been-

"Grow a pair!"
"Stop your blodclot whining and do something about it!"
"If your neighborhood sucks so bad, them f*cking move, dammit!"
"Yeah, feeling sorry for yourself will REALLY advance you in life." :roll:
And so on.

Cynical lack of compassion? Yeah. I can do that.


:lol: These and other forum posts WP thinks goldfish21 would love to post. :lol:

Meanwhile, it's actually quite different. I don't post the things I'd like to post towards some of these people because they won't listen to a damned thing I say so it's moot.

But what I'd LIKE to say is: "You want to eat a shotgun right now, so, what could it possibly harm to Try some of the very simple medicinal things I've done that alleviated depressive, negative, and suicidal thoughts for me?*"

*Under my own direction & care. I have not had my lack of suicidal thoughts officially diagnosed by a qualified Medical Doctor. I simply know that I no longer think them, and haven't for 5+ years.. but what do I know about my own thoughts? :roll:

But instead they'll just say "You're not a Doctor. You don't have a title before your name, or letters after it, so what you say is anecdotal with a sample size of one & has no empirical evidence to support it, blah blah.." (Except for all the medical studies that prove it, and others own stories, too.)

Uh-huh.. I've never said I was a doctor, but I did say exactly how I used very simple medicines to alleviate these symptoms in myself & these things can be replicated in others. But w/e, sit there with a shotgun in your mouth, tears streaming down your face, and a finger on the trigger.. because somehow that's better than seeing if something that costs a few dollars and a little bit of time & effort might just make you think clearer and feel better. Your choice, as sad and unfortunate as it is.


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01 Jun 2018, 6:35 pm

You just have to make every thread about you, don't you goldfish.


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01 Jun 2018, 7:05 pm

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You just have to make every thread about you, don't you goldfish.


If you read what I wrote I was talking about other people, but thanks for chiming in with more of your coming here to bash others in a really lame attempt to make yourself feel better. :)


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03 Jun 2018, 9:04 am

redrobin62 wrote:
For fun, I've responded to threads the way I REALLY want to, only to delete them moments later. Some of my snarkier comments have been-

"Grow a pair!"
"Stop your blodclot whining and do something about it!"
"If your neighborhood sucks so bad, them f*cking move, dammit!"
"Yeah, feeling sorry for yourself will REALLY advance you in life." :roll:
And so on.

Cynical lack of compassion? Yeah. I can do that.


I've done that too. Or just written something horrendous in general. I don't go as far as to post them though. I wouldn't want to take the chance of losing my connection right then and having stay there long enough to do me in :skull:



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03 Jun 2018, 9:24 am

EzraS wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
For fun, I've responded to threads the way I REALLY want to, only to delete them moments later. Some of my snarkier comments have been-

"Grow a pair!"
"Stop your blodclot whining and do something about it!"
"If your neighborhood sucks so bad, them f*cking move, dammit!"
"Yeah, feeling sorry for yourself will REALLY advance you in life." :roll:
And so on.

Cynical lack of compassion? Yeah. I can do that.


I've done that too. Or just written something horrendous in general. I don't go as far as to post them though. I wouldn't want to take the chance of losing my connection right then and having stay there long enough to do me in :skull:



I'm always tempted to type two posts

What I want to say:

What I'm going to say to be helpful:


I'm lucky as I have two moral compasses , I sometimes check with my GF if a post is O.K. , if I cross a line it's because I didn't consult her :lol:


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03 Jun 2018, 7:06 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
You just have to make every thread about you, don't you goldfish.


He has a history of hijacking threads.



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03 Jun 2018, 7:13 pm

EzraS wrote:
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You just have to make every thread about you, don't you goldfish.


He has a history of hijacking threads.


Pardon me for posting information that can help people on a support forum. :roll:

And you have a history of opposing anything I say. I don't even believe it's a real thing, but the consistency with which you oppose me does make me wonder if you've ever been diagnosed with Oppositional Defiance Disorder & if you're equally as oppositional to your parents and school teachers. Maybe there's a clinical explanation for your negativity towards me.


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04 Jun 2018, 1:45 am

This thread isn't about you and your treatment, stop hijacking threads please.



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04 Jun 2018, 2:05 pm

I don't think you're a bad person because it does get annoying when someone whines non stop and can't just accept things as they are. However i think societal expectations are to blame for this too. For example people expect everyone to have many friends, get married before a certain age and such things. If people don't do those things they're shunned from society. So autistic people start to think that they are worthless if they don't have such things (good social skills, marriage etc)



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06 Jun 2018, 8:22 pm

There is always going to be someone out there who has it easier and who has it worse off than you. If you are going to judge those who have it easier, someone else could just as easily do the same to you if you complained about anything in your life(and I am sure you have) that the person who comes along who has it worse off than you could claim you are also cry baby.



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18 Jul 2018, 1:28 pm

No need for a new thread to post this thought:

You think you have a cynical lack of compassion?

Sometimes when I read some of the regulars endless complaints about their symptoms & how AS negatively impacts their lives I can’t help but think “I have a very difficult time feeling bad for you right now because I’ve been sharing for 5+ years how you can help & heal yourself and you’re simply uninterested in doing the work required and thus don’t deserve the benefit of the results.”

It’s not often, though. But sometimes.


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