were u jealous of the whiz kids in school

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QuantumChemist
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22 Apr 2019, 7:14 pm

No. I was the one that they (whiz kids) were competing against in classes. I was restricted from science fairs because teachers said that I had an unfair natural advantage. Jealousy is a trait that I really have a hard time understanding on a personal level.

Bullying is something that I am very familiar with. It has cost me part of my humanity.



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22 Apr 2019, 9:09 pm

Before college, I was one

In college I was jealous of them



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30 Apr 2019, 4:00 am

No. I didn't understand the concept of "grades". From 1st to 5th I had no idea what "grades" were and why an "F" was considered bad. We didn't have grades when I was in kindergarten. Just stars and X's. I worked very hard on a collage about shapes and was very proud of. The teacher was very impressed and drew a star on it. I felt it defaced my collage. I no longer was so proud of my collage.

Grades came around in the first or second grade but I never could understand what was so important about them. Why were A's good? Why were F's bad? I liked more things that started with F than I did things that started with the letter A. I could write my own A's. It's just a letter the teacher wrote. I can't cash it in for anything so why should I care? By the time I was in third grade, I had decided I wanted to be a veterinarian when I grew up. Since I had trouble with math (un-diagnosed dyscalculia) my mom told my I should give up on being a veterinarian because I would supposedly "never be able to handle all the math requirements in college".

I gave up in school not long after she said that and didn't even try anymore. I was told I went to school so I could have a job when I grew up but if I couldn't have the ONLY job I wanted, why should I even try? I eventually saw a lady on TV who WAS an actual veterinarian who had lots of learning disabilities and said it took her five times to apply for vet school but she did it. I was like "If she can, so can I!". I was home-schooled by that time and started trying again. I got very sick several times in high school and had to stop for a while (I think it was stress related. My mom has her own issues and possibly mental health conditions herself and was VERY controlling.) By time time I was feeling better, my mom had said it was up to me if I wanted to finish my education...but wouldn't help me in the process of finding a GED program. And I was never allowed to learn how to drive (another story) and would have never offered to drive me even if I did find a program.

I moved out a few years later after having to stay in a homeless shelter (another story) and moved out of that place after a man making sexual advances at me and the fact there was nothing to do in that town (I think the only reason my mom let me move was the fact the man was making the moves to rape me and the landlord refused to do anything). By now, I was living in the suburbs of a major Ohio city. I finally had access to mostly everything I ever wanted. I found a high school program for people who never were able to get their diploma or GED and at that place was called things such as "star student". Yet my mom manages to complain about that place because it was funded by tax payers... Aren't all public schools in the United States funded by tax payers? Well, if you would have helped me when I needed it, mother. And I LOVED it there so you can go jump in an ice cold lake. Yes, I still had trouble with math. But by then I had a dyscalculia diagnosis and help.

I also was volunteering at a local vet's office and every vet I talked too there said they did have some math in college, but it was nothing compared to someone studying for a physics, engineering or mathematics degree. My boss was kind of an idiot and somehow he was able to get through college and vet school. In my fourth grade special education class, whenever anyone had an animal related question the teacher would say, "I don't know. Why don't you ask MagicMeerkat? SHE probably knows." The teacher would sometimes even let me basically teach the class when it was something related to animals. I still didn't really understand the concept of these "grade" things back then, but when it came to animals and I had a teacher that wasn't a narcissistic sociopath like my 3rd grade teacher, I was a "whiz kid".


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30 Apr 2019, 4:31 am

At my public school we got a mark every 2-3 weeks for how we'd performed in class which reflected performance and application,presentation of work etc.

The boys who got a string of A's when it came to such assessments were the one's who invariably were seen to shine academically. Whether these boys were naturally gifted ,or just had a good work ethic which helped them to do well is debatable.
I do think that often if your thinking tied in with what the teacher believed that marked you out as a model student.



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30 Apr 2019, 9:15 am

Yes but jealousy is not tabboo

The problem is that jealousy is out of proportion

There are a lot of reasons why I am jealous of someone

Intelligence is just one

Intelligence is not the biggest one

Intelligence is nature versus nurture



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30 Apr 2019, 9:25 pm

I was considered gifted and talented when I was in elementary school. But then again, my elementary school was a magnet school that was known for its advanced GATE (Gifted And Talented Education) program. (I was not in GATE, but I guess I could have been considered somewhat of a whiz kid back then as I was generally smarter than my non-GATE classmates.)

I'm not really a whiz kid anymore as I've found and met people who are either at my level of intelligence or higher. But I'm not really jealous of those who are whiz kids. I mean, heck, there are some kids who act like they're whiz kids in my math class, so I'm pretty used to them. (They can be a bit annoying sometimes, though.)


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30 Apr 2019, 10:20 pm

Some of them were jealous of me

And I was jealous of some sort of them


As long as you are doing what you are trying to do, jealousy is not necessarily bad


My precious lil "parents" used to correctly tell me "your sister is so smart. Why are you not like that?".

At least they didn't put on a facade

Transparent is good

Some counselors said "you are not your sister". Nobody ever said I had a Siamese twin.

The Americans with Disabilities Act and Equal employment opportunity commission do :roll: not :skull: apply to the way parents treat children. It is not :skull: ableism :mrgreen: or discrimination based on disability


Intelligence is an :mrgreen: essential job function :mrgreen: of being a child


:mrgreen:


There are zero :idea: reasonable accommodation :roll:


It is necessary to compare two candidates, because there is only one job opening


:D


The dean of high school told me that the worst thing you can do is compare your children


:cry: :roll: :twisted:


Ass hole


Child Protective services does not say, :heart: do not compare your children :ninja:


Freedom of speech


Freedom to be an ass hole



Drama queen

And I hate it when instructors say "do your best". There is no way to know, what your best is


When two cars crash, the insurance does not care if you did your best. Both driver's did their best. At least one driver $$$$$


So, if your best is not good enough, why the f**k should you do your best?



Maybe 80 percent of my best is one teaspoon. And ten percent of my sister's best is a gallon



Idiot teachers and dean



Try to make you feel better, but implicit insult to intelligence







As usual my precious lil "parents" were correct



Yes my sister is so smart. Correct


Why are you not like that. :skull: correct :jester: nature versus nurture. Autism




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01 May 2019, 2:56 am

Practically everyone in the skewls I went to were whiz kids compared to me. I never really got jelly in the sense of wishing I was the smart one instead of them. Instead I wished I was smart like them with skewl & social stuff instead of being the weakest link with both. I was very upset & frustrated with some of them cuz of the bulling but I still didn't wish I was the genius & kewl instead of them. I mostly just wanted the bullies to leave me a lone & let me live.


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01 May 2019, 3:31 am

At this point in my life I need to be a whiz kid.



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01 May 2019, 9:34 pm

Personality matters more than intelligence

Intelligence is not necessarily reflected in school performance

However, society puts too much emphasis on school and academic intelligence

Grow up, hearing that you have to be a child prodigy or your parents won't love you

Even though they were not child prodigies themselves



When I flunked out of structural engineering, fourth year, I tried and failed to commit suicide

At the time, I thought my life was over


My job prospects were the same as any old idiot

And autistics outside of STEM have a hard time getting jobs


And UCSD was homophobic


But that doesn't mean, commit suicide


Overreaction


Not all was lost


But a significant portion was lost