I need some words of encouragement.. (Updated!)

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ToadOfSteel
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03 Feb 2009, 12:58 am

PS: sorry for hijacking your thread. I just wanted to point out that there's always someone worse off than you. Even in my situation, I'm not some bum on the streets with a heroin addiction...



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03 Feb 2009, 8:56 am

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Oh! Don't say that ToadOfSteel! You never know what can happen for you in the future! You are still young and have a lot of life ahead of you. I had to grow up in a hurry and fight for my life.. you've been gifted with being able to spread your wings at your own pace. Don't make light of that privilege :) trust me, I've had my share of depression but that's the crazy thing about life - its always changing! I can't promise you that you'll find love but the odds are in your favor. Most everyone finds someone at some point.

The grass is always greener on the other side, perhaps you shouldn't admire my mistakes ;)


That is so very true. Beautifully said.



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04 Feb 2009, 12:02 pm

Well I talked to him last night. I'm surprised that it actually went pretty calmly. He told me about all the things he has been working on and he has improved in some small areas. He also said that he was just planning on fixing the big problem right now :? He has been working up to it and yesterday was going to be the start. Seeing the small bit of improvement he has made and the improvement I have made with not being so upset at small things.. I begin to feel that I should give him more time. But I am so afriad to do that thinking that maybe things will improve on the short term and as soon as I get complacent, he will slide back to the way he always has been and I'll be back where I started from.

He said that he hoped my promise to him and my love for him would be enough to keep me around while he works on himself. He said my promise should mean something to me. It does.. but I don't want to stay with him out of guilt/responsibility/fear of the unknown anymore :( I don't want to keep changing my mind and giving him more chances.

But then he also says.. the first year is always the hardest. Maybe I just need to wait longer...

He's so depressed right now and I feel terrible :cry:



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04 Feb 2009, 3:48 pm

mitharatowen wrote:
Well I talked to him last night. I'm surprised that it actually went pretty calmly. He told me about all the things he has been working on and he has improved in some small areas. He also said that he was just planning on fixing the big problem right now :? He has been working up to it and yesterday was going to be the start. Seeing the small bit of improvement he has made and the improvement I have made with not being so upset at small things.. I begin to feel that I should give him more time. But I am so afriad to do that thinking that maybe things will improve on the short term and as soon as I get complacent, he will slide back to the way he always has been and I'll be back where I started from.

He said that he hoped my promise to him and my love for him would be enough to keep me around while he works on himself. He said my promise should mean something to me. It does.. but I don't want to stay with him out of guilt/responsibility/fear of the unknown anymore :( I don't want to keep changing my mind and giving him more chances.

But then he also says.. the first year is always the hardest. Maybe I just need to wait longer...

He's so depressed right now and I feel terrible :cry:


As long you are not telling the full story then I would remain neutral in that matter.



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04 Feb 2009, 5:04 pm

What more would you like to know?



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04 Feb 2009, 5:15 pm

I don't care about the details, I guess what is important is- how many times have he already told you that he will fix this problem that he has? because if he's been unsuccesful before, maybe you should tell him that you're giving him one last try right now.

and make him believe it.


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04 Feb 2009, 5:22 pm

It's been many times and there's always been one last try..



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04 Feb 2009, 5:33 pm

so divorce him so we can end this thread at least lol.



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04 Feb 2009, 6:13 pm

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Can't help , I don't know the reason why you would quit your husband but , based on your post, it doesn't sound there's a major reason ( such as cheating ,alcohol ,violence or financial problem) but probably many minor issues. If there was a major reason then you are gonna quit him without that hesitation and without any feeling of doubt or guilt or even a feeling of fear but since you are exhibiting feelings of guilt/fear and hesitation in your post then I guess you are doubting the morality of your decision.

Is there any major reason for making up this decision?

if theres none of that then i think your lucky maybe you should count your blessings. lots of couples are worse and do have those problems and can work it out. often not tho. if he wants to fix what he does then i think thats good. you said he was working on it? he didnt cheat on you or anything like prince said right?



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04 Feb 2009, 8:00 pm

I haven't read through all the posts here, but I have a suggestion for you mitharatowen. Have you considered doing this through a social worker? Social workers are excellent at providing advice for issues like this. I go to a social worker for issues in my social life with my family. It has helped. I know this sounds like generic advice, but I do think it is worth looking into. Social workers generally aren't that expensive to work through either. Mine charges 85$ for an hour session.


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05 Feb 2009, 2:38 am

mitharatowen wrote:
Well I talked to him last night. I'm surprised that it actually went pretty calmly. He told me about all the things he has been working on and he has improved in some small areas. He also said that he was just planning on fixing the big problem right now :? He has been working up to it and yesterday was going to be the start. Seeing the small bit of improvement he has made and the improvement I have made with not being so upset at small things.. I begin to feel that I should give him more time. But I am so afriad to do that thinking that maybe things will improve on the short term and as soon as I get complacent, he will slide back to the way he always has been and I'll be back where I started from.

He said that he hoped my promise to him and my love for him would be enough to keep me around while he works on himself. He said my promise should mean something to me. It does.. but I don't want to stay with him out of guilt/responsibility/fear of the unknown anymore :( I don't want to keep changing my mind and giving him more chances.

But then he also says.. the first year is always the hardest. Maybe I just need to wait longer...

He's so depressed right now and I feel terrible :cry:

You should drop him like a hot potato :lol:
Seriously though, in my opinion, you should start the divorce process. He's not going to change. I'm guessing he has made a bunch of promises to change, but has yet to follow through. Just get rid of him. What is he , a drunk or something?


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05 Feb 2009, 4:23 am

Errr kind of don't want to get involved, but oh well.

mitharatowen you told me that if you had higher self esteem you wouldn't have married him in the first place. :? That tells me you shouldn't have married him in the first place.

Ask yourself these questions.

Do you really like him?

Do you want to spend the rest of your life with him?

If not, ask him does he want to be with someone that doesn't want to be with him?

Also how much does he like you???

If you have decided to leave him or know you are going to leave him, do it. Don't torture him by making him try to improve himself etc and then leave him. Maybe you might be getting really picky about him because you don't want to be with him and his problems are not that bad.



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05 Feb 2009, 9:40 am

^^ if you don't love him in the first place mitharatowen then this would be an enough major reason. If you don't have any kids then no hesitation should be occurred.



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05 Feb 2009, 1:01 pm

Dokken wrote:
mitharatowen wrote:
Well I talked to him last night. I'm surprised that it actually went pretty calmly. He told me about all the things he has been working on and he has improved in some small areas. He also said that he was just planning on fixing the big problem right now :? He has been working up to it and yesterday was going to be the start. Seeing the small bit of improvement he has made and the improvement I have made with not being so upset at small things.. I begin to feel that I should give him more time. But I am so afriad to do that thinking that maybe things will improve on the short term and as soon as I get complacent, he will slide back to the way he always has been and I'll be back where I started from.

He said that he hoped my promise to him and my love for him would be enough to keep me around while he works on himself. He said my promise should mean something to me. It does.. but I don't want to stay with him out of guilt/responsibility/fear of the unknown anymore :( I don't want to keep changing my mind and giving him more chances.

But then he also says.. the first year is always the hardest. Maybe I just need to wait longer...

He's so depressed right now and I feel terrible :cry:

You should drop him like a hot potato :lol:
Seriously though, in my opinion, you should start the divorce process. He's not going to change. I'm guessing he has made a bunch of promises to change, but has yet to follow through. Just get rid of him. What is he , a drunk or something?

yeah its hard to say without knowing is he a drunk? we dont know what he is doing so advice is hard
ive been with some bad guys and i would kill for one of them to have made any improvement or even tried or been depressed about it so i feel bad for your man if thats true
on one hand if he is a drunk or cheated on you you should leave but its just hard to say you know your situation better
has he ever hit you??



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05 Feb 2009, 1:12 pm

^^ I think she more or less want's to hear that what she's doing isn't wrong, and she wants some validation for her feelings.



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05 Feb 2009, 1:14 pm

HaliaTotheres wrote:
^^ I think she more or less want's to hear that what she's doing isn't wrong, and she wants some validation for her feelings.

im sorry!! its just hard to know that if we dont know whats happening you know what i mean? :oops: