Why does no one want me to have a relationship?

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28 Mar 2019, 12:00 pm

Malls really aren't great places to meet people. I've never met anybody in a mall. Not my milieu, exactly.

Your best bet is probably making more trips to Austin.

In Austin, they don't care if a man in his early 30's happens to date a woman in her 20's.

Actually, in most places, they wouldn't look too askance at that sort of relationship.



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28 Mar 2019, 12:57 pm

One of my ex-friends I actually met at the mall when it still had a bookstore and she worked there. Of course, this was before I realized her true behavior. The situation hasn't been replicated since then, though. One attempt got close but it ended up going nowhere and other times the other person looked uninterested or told me "I am too busy!".

My brother actually had a girl approach him at the mall once but that wouldn't happen now since he's not the athletic looking skater he used to be.



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28 Mar 2019, 1:23 pm

I go to the mall every day to get a coffee but never meet anyone there. Its lonely and boring. I saw a cute guy when I was grocery shopping that looked single but didnt know how to approach him. I read about couples hooking up at any old place and they make it seem so easy. The only place I ever had success picking up guys was at bars. Since I have no female friends to hang out with Im too scared to go to a bar alone.



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28 Mar 2019, 1:26 pm

Mark maybe you could try the bar scene a few more times. Be sure to buy something so you dont get booted out. lol



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28 Mar 2019, 1:35 pm

Bars are not good places for Aspie/autistic-type people to meet other people.



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28 Mar 2019, 2:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Bars are not good places for Aspie/autistic-type people to meet other people.



You can’t open conversations in library tho.



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28 Mar 2019, 2:43 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Bars are not good places for Aspie/autistic-type people to meet other people.



You can’t open conversations in library tho.


Yes I can and yes I have. Will do so from now on, too.

Of course, not in the "complete silence" -zones, but elsewhere is okay if you keep your voice low and don't talk too much.



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28 Mar 2019, 2:56 pm

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I'm sure there are other places than church where socializing is possible over there, if not in your town then the closest bigger city.

No idea what that second part has to do with anything I said or why'd you suddenly brought it up... I suppose this is a good example of you being bad at socializing, bringing up something that is barely tied to the subject at hand.


I will say the last times I've gone to the mall, I've seen a lot of people, especially younger people, hanging out. But in my experience, people who already have company with them aren't interested in expanding their social connections. I've tried to engage people who had company with them and they didn't look interested in making friends with me at all. I've also been told I am considered "too old" to hang out with the 20's crowd and thinking about dating someone of the opposite sex in her 20's apparently makes me "creepy" even though I've seen young women dating men in their 40's or above.


That's my experience too, but then again maybe you and I just aren't the kind of people who attract others to us... maybe we unknowingly send some wrong signal or don't send some signal that we should.
I too get told I'm too old to hang out with my sister (she's 19 and I'm 24) and her friends... well, on average the mentality between 19 year olds and 24 year olds is often a bit big... maybe I'm too childlike for my age? Of course, this goes for people in their early twenties and early thirties as well; normally people wouldn't consider them to have much in common unless they work or study together... or share the same hobby.
As for the dating part, depends on the culture I suppose. It certainly would be frowned upon here, but our president has a wife 15 years younger than him so it's not a complete taboo... then again, even the wife is in her forties so it's different. I'd still say you should aim for women closer to your age though; most women aren't that fond of attention from older men and especially socially awkward older men are often considered red flags for safety reasons. Worst case, you could get in to major trouble for flirting with a younger girl.



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28 Mar 2019, 9:58 pm

i've met more people right here on WP, later meeting face to face in the real world, than anywhere else in my life.



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28 Mar 2019, 11:46 pm

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He seems similar to me and I think he’s on disability or going to be on it so he probably can’t work full time, if so like me he can’t change his finical situation to apeal to more women.
People always tell me to just change improve they ignore that I’m disabled in a way that prevents that. So help can’t be offered until the offerer accepts the person is disabled abt this can’t improve in lot of areas that are require and offer help that is built around that reality.
I wish there were more “so your disabled and limited to retail work or min wage income here’s some things you can try to find love” rather then “get a better job”


No, I am not on disability. I don't know where you got that from. Also, please do not compare myself to you. I want to be seen as an individual. I don't work full time because I get burned out from my regular schedule and I tend to function on routines. I would also go insane if I had to be around the full time workers at my job for longer than I normally do. The double standards, s**t talking, and tedious work on a part time basis is bad enough.

I've seen people living in poverty that are coupled up. They both can barely scrape by or are living on the streets but they form romantic bonds over having similar life circumstances.


If you aren't on disability what money is your mom holding from you? you mentioned your mom being able to withhold funds from you a while back(so I thought you may be on disability and she was incorrectly assigned as payee)...but instead of that somehow she has access to money you are earning from work? As you aren't actually on disability? that is kind of confusing, also perhaps part of why people might think you are on disability.

But also if that is the case than you could easily create a new bank account, start putting your money there and don't give her access to it...Or is it even true she is withholding money, if not why did you imply that in earlier threads?


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29 Mar 2019, 12:43 am

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He seems similar to me and I think he’s on disability or going to be on it so he probably can’t work full time, if so like me he can’t change his finical situation to apeal to more women.
People always tell me to just change improve they ignore that I’m disabled in a way that prevents that. So help can’t be offered until the offerer accepts the person is disabled abt this can’t improve in lot of areas that are require and offer help that is built around that reality.
I wish there were more “so your disabled and limited to retail work or min wage income here’s some things you can try to find love” rather then “get a better job”


No, I am not on disability. I don't know where you got that from. Also, please do not compare myself to you. I want to be seen as an individual. I don't work full time because I get burned out from my regular schedule and I tend to function on routines. I would also go insane if I had to be around the full time workers at my job for longer than I normally do. The double standards, s**t talking, and tedious work on a part time basis is bad enough.

I've seen people living in poverty that are coupled up. They both can barely scrape by or are living on the streets but they form romantic bonds over having similar life circumstances.


If you aren't on disability what money is your mom holding from you? you mentioned your mom being able to withhold funds from you a while back(so I thought you may be on disability and she was incorrectly assigned as payee)...but instead of that somehow she has access to money you are earning from work? As you aren't actually on disability? that is kind of confusing, also perhaps part of why people might think you are on disability.

But also if that is the case than you could easily create a new bank account, start putting your money there and don't give her access to it...Or is it even true she is withholding money, if not why did you imply that in earlier threads?


No, I have access to the money I make from work and I am glad I do or else I wouldn't be able to buy any music albums, books of any sort, video games, and the food I enjoy. She witholds my social security money by claiming it's my "rent" and that it helps her keep the house.

I really think my mother played a role in stunting my social growth and potential. She's always been a control freak and was sickeningly overly concerned with how I appeared to others. She also had me go to a Christian private school then to a redneck public school. Even when I struggled to socialize in church, she would still make me go and even had me study up on the book of Revelation for a bible study group which ended up being unproductive. She is also damn near everything a good chunk of what the GOP wants women to be like. She thinks you need to be a Christian or you're "weird", thinks feminists are "lesbian dykes", calls gay men "fa***ts" despite having a gay best friend, thinks Donald Trump is God's spokesman, thinks all Muslims are terrorists and felt that the ones killed in the New Zealand mosque shooting incident brought it on themselves, loves redneck men and thinks non-redneck men are "losers", thinks women should always use birth control while men don't have to despite how she was upset my siblings got their girlfriends pregnant, and thinks Wiccans as well as Neo Pagans are "stupid". I am just surprised she accepts the theory of evolution as real (Which it is) and listens to The Beatles. Her husband, despite being a Vietnam veteran, thinks marijuana is bad and should stay banned in Texas. He also hated Jimi Hendrix for a long time for being a "weed smoker" but liked Willie Nelson despite how he smokes weed. Her previous husband felt the same about the stuff and my friend's father who is also retired military would apparently call me a "pot head" if he met me.



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29 Mar 2019, 12:59 am

Marknis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Marknis wrote:
sly279 wrote:
He seems similar to me and I think he’s on disability or going to be on it so he probably can’t work full time, if so like me he can’t change his finical situation to apeal to more women.
People always tell me to just change improve they ignore that I’m disabled in a way that prevents that. So help can’t be offered until the offerer accepts the person is disabled abt this can’t improve in lot of areas that are require and offer help that is built around that reality.
I wish there were more “so your disabled and limited to retail work or min wage income here’s some things you can try to find love” rather then “get a better job”


No, I am not on disability. I don't know where you got that from. Also, please do not compare myself to you. I want to be seen as an individual. I don't work full time because I get burned out from my regular schedule and I tend to function on routines. I would also go insane if I had to be around the full time workers at my job for longer than I normally do. The double standards, s**t talking, and tedious work on a part time basis is bad enough.

I've seen people living in poverty that are coupled up. They both can barely scrape by or are living on the streets but they form romantic bonds over having similar life circumstances.


If you aren't on disability what money is your mom holding from you? you mentioned your mom being able to withhold funds from you a while back(so I thought you may be on disability and she was incorrectly assigned as payee)...but instead of that somehow she has access to money you are earning from work? As you aren't actually on disability? that is kind of confusing, also perhaps part of why people might think you are on disability.

But also if that is the case than you could easily create a new bank account, start putting your money there and don't give her access to it...Or is it even true she is withholding money, if not why did you imply that in earlier threads?


No, I have access to the money I make from work and I am glad I do or else I wouldn't be able to buy any music albums, books of any sort, video games, and the food I enjoy. She witholds my social security money by claiming it's my "rent" and that it helps her keep the house.

I really think my mother played a role in stunting my social growth and potential. She's always been a control freak and was sickeningly overly concerned with how I appeared to others. She also had me go to a Christian private school then to a redneck public school. Even when I struggled to socialize in church, she would still make me go and even had me study up on the book of Revelation for a bible study group which ended up being unproductive. She is also damn near everything a good chunk of what the GOP wants women to be like. She thinks you need to be a Christian or you're "weird", thinks feminists are "lesbian dykes", calls gay men "fa***ts" despite having a gay best friend, thinks Donald Trump is God's spokesman, thinks all Muslims are terrorists and felt that the ones killed in the New Zealand mosque shooting incident brought it on themselves, loves redneck men and thinks non-redneck men are "losers", thinks women should always use birth control while men don't have to despite how she was upset my siblings got their girlfriends pregnant, and thinks Wiccans as well as Neo Pagans are "stupid". I am just surprised she accepts the theory of evolution as real (Which it is) and listens to The Beatles.


Isn’t “social security” money you get from the government because you are disabled? AKA “on disability”? You told Sly, up above, that you don’t want to be compared to other people, yet isn’t that what you yourself frequently do? You compare yourself to your brothers a lot. Is there anything that you like about your mother?



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29 Mar 2019, 1:35 am

Marknis, I've been thinking about your situation a bit, and I think you really need to move out of your house. Your environment is toxic to your mental health. As long as you live there you won't be able to achieve happiness. You've talked about not wanting to live past your 31 birthday. That makes your situation pretty dire, and you need bold action.

Now, this proposal should be terrifying. If you weren't scared of moving out, you wouldn't be thinking straight. You need to be careful how you do it. That isn't to say that you can't do it, just that looking before leaping is a wise strategy. I don't the exact steps you need to take, but some baseline questions to ask:

1. Do you have any positive allies in your life?
Friends or family that would be willing to take you in, or at least help you move out? People you can lean on if times get tough? Maybe a more distant relation like a cousin, or a friend? Take stock of all the people you know in your life, and think would sincerely help you, or at the very least not be as controlling as your mother.

2. What are your financial resources?
You only work part time, so I don't expect you to be able to fully support yourself. Take stock of what you can and cannot afford? If you need to travel a distance do you have enough money to get there. If you move in with someone else can you support your own food. How long could you live

3. What public resources are available to you?
You mentioned your mother denies you SSI payments. If you move out can you get those? Are there any support centers for people with mental disabilities? If you don't have any personal allies in your life are there any places where you may be able to seek them out?

There are a lot of people on this site rooting for you. We're trying to give you the best advice we can. Let me know what your thoughts are on moving out.


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29 Mar 2019, 12:03 pm

I actually hope I'm misunderstanding something big time here and I'm so sorry if I am, but if I'm not...

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No, I have access to the money I make from work and I am glad I do or else I wouldn't be able to buy any music albums, books of any sort, video games, and the food I enjoy. She witholds my social security money by claiming it's my "rent" and that it helps her keep the house.


Your mother is doing nothing wrong. Or well, I suppose the right way to do things would be to give you the options of either keeping your social security money yourself and leaving her house or let her do what she does now.

I don't know how much this kind of money is, but since you're able to work (even if it's part time) and you're not living on your own, I'm pretty sure it can't be a lot. I highly doubt it covers all the expenses you bring to the household, so letting your mother take the money for necessary expenses that you are causing is the least you can do. I mean if you weren't living in her house but on your own, you'd have to pay for rent, electricity, water, internet, all your food (since you said "foods that you like" I assume that she at least sometimes prepares food that you get to eat too), necessary stuff like toilet paper, tissues, laundry detergent etc. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood and you actually do pay your share of this stuff, but I've seen you say nothing that would imply such a thing. None of it is free you know, it doesn't just magically appear to your place, your mom actually has to pay for them. Also, please tell me you take part in the housework (preparing your own food and cleaning your own room does not count when you're already an adult.) Please tell me you don't leave all the dish washing, laundry, vacuuming, dusting, washing the floors etc. to her. You're an adult man; you need to pull your own weigh. I don't know much about any laws in the USA, but I'm pretty sure no law says that a woman needs to take care of her 30+ year old son if she doesn't want to. She's letting you stay out of the goodness of her heart, so the least you can do is let her keep that small amount of money without whining, because it's highly likely that it's nothing compared to how much expenses you cause her.

Again, if I read too much in to it and you actually do pay and do your fair share of the household expenses and chores then sorry for blowing up, but it really sounds like you don't.



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29 Mar 2019, 3:55 pm

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Bars are not good places for Aspie/autistic-type people to meet other people.


I think it depends on the person. Ive meet some nice guys at bars. Abusive guys elsewhere.



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29 Mar 2019, 4:02 pm

Of course it depends on the bar.

There's this guy on WP who constantly goes to this one particular bar, and gets abused by the other guys and gals there.

Most bar-like settings----except maybe a place which emphasizes trivia contests---are really bad for people who don't conform to superficial social standards.