Best way to lop yourself?

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The key is finding a good one.

true. posting on a forum makes you vulnerable. being vulnerable is hard, because people can hurt you. sometimes people shut other people out in real life as well as in person.

in my city, there is a support line a person can call for referrals to therapy. or a person can go through a doctor.

I think the trouble is, as this is the only way we really interact with other aspies, this becomes more of a society than a support forum often. Being a society means, well, giving each other inherently the same resource/hierarchy struggles that the NT world dishes on itself. Being that we share a struggle it might not be as pronounced but yeah, there are some motley idiots who'll rip people down if they put their heart on the table.

good point. it does become that way doesn't it? hale-bopp is a veteran who strikes and a strong and imposing impression. it seems like it would be hard to seek help when people expect you to be "the strong one". but the strongest people sometimes have very hard barriers for other poeple to cross over in order to help.

and i just realized that my statement above is redundant. oh well.

In that position you're bankrolling much larger operations internally, regardless of whether the world is even reciprocating the effort you put into yourself (even though you tell yourself that you're doing it to feel better about who you are - if you still feel half invisible its hard). And its not like people fronting strength are on for a take-over bid, more often they're the people who were too sensitive and where, if they weren't who they are, they know they'd have people trying to constantly make footstools of them. You get jabbed if people think you see yourself as high and mighty, and ignored, but you look back and see what happened before and you realize that dealing with disconfirmation (being walled off, ignored, etc.) still isn't as bad as being the constant M of an S&M relationship between yourself and society - at least when they had you where they seemed to want you.

whenever you are clobbered by a crippling bout of depression or self-blame or whatever the case may be, remember this:

if you are as far down as you can go, there is nowhere to go but up.

I dunno. I've been here in the sewer for...um...almost six months. I'm only still here because of my kids.

~Kate

i've been there lots of times myself. i'm not apt to spout out hallmark card advice.

this was a post made out of desperation by a well respected member who really needs some support.

not everyone is able to get out of the ditch but most of us do, and get back on the road, in time. it just feels impossible when we're there, we're engulfed by it so thoroughly. and it's difficult to remember that we've found a way out before.

hale_bopp, You are one of my favorite people on the forum.
PM me and I would be glad to talk to you.