Why couldn't I have been born a boy?
It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
This is a common thing with Erisad. She is continually saying how awful things are and blaming other people for it. Did you miss the part where I said it's not her fault? I wasn't blaming. I do read a lot on WP, even though I can't type well. I read a lot of Erisad's postings, and the common thread in nearly ALL of them is "life stinks, why can't I be somebody other than myself?" and then trying to place blame. Maybe she is doing positive things in her life outside of WP. She said that she's learning to drive, finally, and that's good. I have no way of knowing that, unless she tells us. All I know is what she writes. Maybe she uses WP to rant, I know a lot of aspies do, and that's ok. But I just want to help her have a better life, because I see me in her.
It sure sounded like it was my fault. It doesn't help that every time I post in the Haven someone tells me to stop whining and that there's something ELSE wrong with my brain on an AS support forum. I don't have the money for psychiatric help. I'm squeezing pennies to pay for my driving lessons. I'm off my antidepressants and am only on my Adderall now. I need that to focus but apart from that, I'm fine. I don't want to be dependent on any more medication for my brain. I did counseling in my last year of college and it didn't help much really. I use WP to rant because I don't have the outlets to in my real life. I do actually post happy things too. Seriously. I'm not always bitching. Maybe those are the posts you notice but I'm not always miserable. I wasn't even miserable when I posted this. I was pissed off and needing to rant.
It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
I swear, this always happens when I post here. Apparently the Haven rules aren't enforced very well. I'll have to make a mental note to never post my problems in the Haven ever again. D:
If you had any training in counselling skills which I have then you know that you let the person you listening to express there feelings in a health way as the expression of those feelings is a part of healing process, if someone whats to rant let them rant as its help them to get rid of that negative feeling. When in a counselling role you learn how to deal with those feelings in a safe environment while keeping them under control for your own safety as people who give counselling and talking therapies to other need therapy too as sometimes you work with issues that are too close to home personally whichs give you a need to deal with them!
It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
I swear, this always happens when I post here. Apparently the Haven rules aren't enforced very well. I'll have to make a mental note to never post my problems in the Haven ever again. D:
Please don't let this stop you of using the Haven as an emotional outlet fro your feeling, there are quite few people in your thread that are giving very poor emotional support IMHO.
I have this to say them. BEHAVE YOURSELF NOW, YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT IF THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO YOU NOW!!
If you had any training in counselling skills
but i don't
it wasn't what she said, it was all the 'mkay's which i thought was rude and if someone replied to me like that it would just make me feel stupid. he had good intentions i'm sure
being upset does not give you the right to make other people upset too
It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
I swear, this always happens when I post here. Apparently the Haven rules aren't enforced very well. I'll have to make a mental note to never post my problems in the Haven ever again. D:
Please don't let this stop you of using the Haven as an emotional outlet fro your feeling, there are quite few people in your thread that are giving very poor emotional support IMHO.
I have this to say them. BEHAVE YOURSELF NOW, YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT IF THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO YOU NOW!!
It's happened a lot when I post here. I've been told to "get off my self-rightous high horse" by a user in this forum once. I swear some of these people just don't care that this is supposed to be a support forum and would prefer to bash me instead. D:
If you had any training in counselling skills
but i don't
it wasn't what she said, it was all the 'mkay's which i thought was rude and if someone replied to me like that it would just make me feel stupid. he had good intentions i'm sure
being upset does not give you the right to make other people upset too
I didn't mean to be rude. I was just trying to lighten the mood a little bit to show that I'm starting to feel better and stuff. >.<
Ok, fine. No more advice from pezar. Poopylungstuffing put the same thing in front of me too, that I was being "unrealistic" in pushing her to improve her life. So I stopped. She finally found the breakthrough that she needed. You will find it too. I gave you advice that you're not ready for. Fine, no more advice. Bye...
It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
This is a common thing with Erisad. She is continually saying how awful things are and blaming other people for it. Did you miss the part where I said it's not her fault? I wasn't blaming. I do read a lot on WP, even though I can't type well. I read a lot of Erisad's postings, and the common thread in nearly ALL of them is "life stinks, why can't I be somebody other than myself?" and then trying to place blame. Maybe she is doing positive things in her life outside of WP. She said that she's learning to drive, finally, and that's good. I have no way of knowing that, unless she tells us. All I know is what she writes. Maybe she uses WP to rant, I know a lot of aspies do, and that's ok. But I just want to help her have a better life, because I see me in her.
It sounded like she was ranting to me. I use the haven to rant about life when I'm feeling like sh!t and I don't want people telling me I'm just "whining". It's not up to anyone else to judge what someone is doing IRL when they ask for support in the haven.
~Kate
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Ce e amorul? E un lung
Prilej pentru durere,
Caci mii de lacrimi nu-i ajung
Si tot mai multe cere.
--Mihai Eminescu
Ok, fine. No more advice from pezar. Poopylungstuffing put the same thing in front of me too, that I was being "unrealistic" in pushing her to improve her life. So I stopped. She finally found the breakthrough that she needed. You will find it too. I gave you advice that you're not ready for. Fine, no more advice. Bye...
It is unrealistic for me right now because I don't have money to use to pay for a psychiatrist. All I really need is to gain my independence and move out and I see my life getting much better. If I don't see an improvement after these conditions are met, then I'll seek help (if I can afford it). I thank you for putting time into trying to help and I hope life treats you well.

It wasn't rude. I thought it was a little rude to come into the haven and start telling someone she's whining but JMO. I thought the haven was FOR being able to say stuff like that WITHOUT being accused of "whining".
~Kate
This is a common thing with Erisad. She is continually saying how awful things are and blaming other people for it. Did you miss the part where I said it's not her fault? I wasn't blaming. I do read a lot on WP, even though I can't type well. I read a lot of Erisad's postings, and the common thread in nearly ALL of them is "life stinks, why can't I be somebody other than myself?" and then trying to place blame. Maybe she is doing positive things in her life outside of WP. She said that she's learning to drive, finally, and that's good. I have no way of knowing that, unless she tells us. All I know is what she writes. Maybe she uses WP to rant, I know a lot of aspies do, and that's ok. But I just want to help her have a better life, because I see me in her.
It sounded like she was ranting to me. I use the haven to rant about life when I'm feeling like sh!t and I don't want people telling me I'm just "whining". It's not up to anyone else to judge what someone is doing IRL when they ask for support in the haven.
~Kate
Thank you. I was just ranting and needed support, that's it.

I think pezar was probably giving a little "tough love". I don't think he was rude.
On topic, I don't know if I have much to contribute as I think and see this as just a vent thread. Guys can definitely have it just as tough as the girls. Do a lot of girls fall just for personality? Yeah, but there are also some who need looks to go with it. When I was a kid (i'm 25), there wasn't a single girl who didn't like Jonathan Taylor Thomas, or Justin Timberlake from nsync. They liked the kids who did well in sports, the guys who wore trendy clothes, etc.
Also.. guys in 95% of cases, have to do the approaching, which was the case for myself. If you're really lucky girls will approach you through a friend--or at best hint they like incredibly subtly
I think its fine to vent, but you have to realize also sometimes while we understand and see that you're going through things and try to be supportive, your venting may have unintended targets. I.E. I'm 25 and when I was 21 I really wasn't on the shallow end of attraction for girls like my peers were. I actually dealt with some shallowness from the opposite gender, being a guy.
I think girls liked me, but quiet awkward kid who likes anime and video games and deep discussions that were never trendy, didn't have them kicking down my door trying to go out with me.
I lucked out tho and for that kind of luck to find the right person it takes time.
Age has little to do with it (IMO), I think you're right. Change does, however. Get a job and put yourself out there around more people and things may be different. If someone doesn't ask you out in your current group of friends, you're right--they may like you but not have the "balls" to ask you out which is when its time to find new people and seek new experiences.
Btw, sorry your job search is going horrible. If its any consolation, so is mine.
On topic, I don't know if I have much to contribute as I think and see this as just a vent thread. Guys can definitely have it just as tough as the girls. Do a lot of girls fall just for personality? Yeah, but there are also some who need looks to go with it. When I was a kid (i'm 25), there wasn't a single girl who didn't like Jonathan Taylor Thomas, or Justin Timberlake from nsync. They liked the kids who did well in sports, the guys who wore trendy clothes, etc.
Also.. guys in 95% of cases, have to do the approaching, which was the case for myself. If you're really lucky girls will approach you through a friend--or at best hint they like incredibly subtly
I think its fine to vent, but you have to realize also sometimes while we understand and see that you're going through things and try to be supportive, your venting may have unintended targets. I.E. I'm 25 and when I was 21 I really wasn't on the shallow end of attraction for girls like my peers were. I actually dealt with some shallowness from the opposite gender, being a guy.
I think girls liked me, but quiet awkward kid who likes anime and video games and deep discussions that were never trendy, didn't have them kicking down my door trying to go out with me.
I lucked out tho and for that kind of luck to find the right person it takes time.
Age has little to do with it (IMO), I think you're right. Change does, however. Get a job and put yourself out there around more people and things may be different. If someone doesn't ask you out in your current group of friends, you're right--they may like you but not have the "balls" to ask you out which is when its time to find new people and seek new experiences.
Btw, sorry your job search is going horrible. If its any consolation, so is mine.
And if I wanted "tough love" I would have talked to my mother. I need to stop posting in the Haven for support. Apparently ranting isn't allowed there and I shouldn't waste people's time with my "whining." Wow, what great support.

I'm not intending to attack people with my venting, I'm just trying to get those feelings out. The economy sucks. And it's storming outside so we won't be practicing driving tonight. >.<
And I've always asked the guys out and I'm tired of it. The only ones who ask me out are the ones that are online and live too far away to pursue anything. It sucks. But my prime concern is independence. If women were paid the wages that men are, I would be able to move out sooner. *sigh*