My Facade is Slipping...

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26 May 2012, 11:13 pm

OMG OMG OMG OMG

I have a job interview on Tuesday. I haven't had a job interview in 12 years! I think I'm going to melt. I hate, hate, hate my job and I really want to get another one, but I just can't blow this interview. Tuesday is just a phone interview so I can probably do that okay as long as I remember to wait for the pauses... but at some point, I'm going to have to do a face to face...

And then there is all the learning of a new job. Deep breath... I can do this.


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27 May 2012, 4:56 am

Moving on!! !! !


Stay strong, you can do it!



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27 May 2012, 11:03 am

Budfarmer,
Good for you, best wishes to you on this endeavor.

Cheers


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28 May 2012, 1:19 pm

Go with confidence! I'm cheering you on! :wtg:



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31 May 2012, 1:19 pm

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Well darn. That was depressing. I did a good job with the interview and everything went of perfectly. We even got so far as discussing salary and that's where it all fell apart. Unfortunately, I make too much money already to work there. Their best offer was $6 an hour less than I'm already making. Bad as I want to leave this job, that's just too big a cut for me.

Now I'm sad...


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31 May 2012, 2:14 pm

but you passed the actual interview so you can do it again! :D



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31 May 2012, 3:34 pm

Yes, congratulations! Sorry it didn't work out, but hopefully it was a nice confidence boost.



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01 Jun 2012, 7:36 am

Thank you all for your support. It was really nice to see all the positive comments here. And yes, even though I didn't end up with the job, I felt really good about my ability to handle that interview. I realize that each one will be unique, but it did feel good to get this one behind me. And they actually wanted me so I must have been "acceptable".

Having been in the same company for 12 years, its a little daunting to venture out into the wide world again. As much as I hate my job, there is a level of comfort in the familiarity. I will have to overcome that if I intend to leave.


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02 Jun 2012, 5:22 pm

zemanski wrote:
His fascination (unusual for a boy of 16 even of the AS variety) is my little pony!


This is not as unusual as you might think. My Little Pony is really big among teen-aged boys right now. My 15 year-old grandnephew gets all sorts of compliments over his shirt - black with a pink pony - and mostly from other teen-aged boys. Go figure. He and he mother recently had to sneak his best friend to the mall to find a Hot Topic so he could have a My Little Pony shirt, too -- the kid was afraid his own mother would think he was gay if he asked her to buy it for him. Adolescent boys are funny creatures.



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02 Jun 2012, 6:04 pm

OP, I'm sorry to come so late to this conversation. I tend to drift in and out of WP, and am drifting back after a fairly long time away.

I had a very similar experience after discovering how well the criteria for a woman with AS fit my experiences, although I have been told by two different therapists that, while I have some features that suggest AS I am too high-functioning to be diagnosed. One of these guys, though, spent maybe four hours with me, so I'm not sure how much credence to give his opinion. The woman who referred me to him had more experience with AS women and commented that AS was going to look different in a 40+ year old than in an 18 year old, but the assessment he gave me seemed to be more geared toward kids than adults. The other one said I was a Highly Sensitive Person, which after reading the books on the subject, seems to be high-functioning autism for people who don't want to be told that they're autistic.

I know what you mean about opening the facade and having it crumble, though. I had this experience, too. I tend to either create personas or mimic other people's personalities back to them, which is great for getting along in quick conversations but lousy for creating deeper friendships. This is generally fine, since I don't tend to get lonely and have a bad habit of forgetting about people when they are not around (yes, including family and close friends.) I also don't like the level of togetherness that seems generally required of even casual friends these days. When I began to consciously stop myself from using personas or mimicking, though, I found that I lost a lot of my ability to relate to people and to communicate effectively. I also started stimming more and became generally more anxious. Now, I"m back to mimicking and creating personas in some situations -- it's the only way to get through a day on a sales floor, and I can enjoy teaching if I am using my teacher persona -- but I'm more in control of it. and I don't rely upon personas when dealing with family and friends any more.

Someone else mentioned the challenges in raising an NT child, too. My daughter is very much NT, a very normal young woman. I knew that I was different from other girls while I was growing up, but being fairly isolated outside of school, it wasn't too much of an issue for me. I figured that I was just myself and I was pretty much okay with that, even if I didn't have a lot of friends or any interest in what other girls were doing. My parents always told me I would understand the cliches about teen-aged girls one day, but I never did - until my daughter was a teenager. She was bubbly, bouncy, deeply concerned by other people's opinions of her and absolutely glued to the telephone. I didn't get it, but I did get one thing -- she was normal, and I hadn't been. She still worries about my lack of social life, but I've tried to communicate that I have all the social life I need right now. She does understand a bit -- she's the one who bought me a copy of Born on a Blue Day and insisted that I read it because I'd like the author.

One funny story about her as a younger child: when I was a girl I remember my mother taking me to a large shopping center and pointing out how everyone was walking on the right side of the hallways and taking the right-hand side of the stairs, and actively teaching me that that was the correct way to move through a store or hallway. When my daughter was about six, I tried to do the same for her -- if I had needed that instruction, obviously so would she. She stared at me like I'd lost my mind. Apparently, she'd figured that bit out on her own without coaching. :roll:



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02 Jun 2012, 6:30 pm

pschristmas - My boyfriend brought up to me that he found it unnerving that I put on so many different personas reflecting back on the people that I interact with. This was before I figured out why I was such a weirdo :wink:



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04 Jun 2012, 10:59 am

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OP, I'm sorry to come so late to this conversation. I tend to drift in and out of WP, and am drifting back after a fairly long time away.


No problem about joining the party late... I tend to drift in and out as well...

Thank you for the insight. I never thought of it as creating personas, but my mother always called me "the chameleon", for pretty much the same reason. I became very adept at mimicking the behavior of those around me. As long as I stay out of the limelight, I "pass" okay.

The biggest part of my struggle right now is the part where I am allowing myself to be "me" more spontaneously. I have always been the type to overthink everything, and supress most of my desire to speak in a group for fear of doing it badly or saying the wrong thing. I have tried to take away some of the filters that I have put in place to see if I can just ... be... without an elaborate ruse to appear normal.

I am not sure if my stimming has increased, or if it is only my awareness of it, but I catch myself doing things that I never really realized I did... but when I catch it, I recognize it as a long-term habit

1. I run my fingers up the back of my scalp to the crown, grasp the hair, give a yank, and let go... repeat...and repeat, and repeat...)
2. I lock my hands in front of my chest, just above the diaphram, and rock
3. I pick at my fingernails, clicking them against one another

My husband and I were talking about some of my challenges and I told him this: Imagine you have been walking up to the house every day for 20 years. Everyday, you stand on the door mat and unlock the door. Now imagine that one day, after 20 years, that doormat suddenly stands up and says that it is tired of being stepped on... You would be in shock! After 20 years, you never expected anything more from the doormat.

Well I've been covering up who I am for more than double 20 years. Now suddenly I'm tired of trying to be who I am not, and I am exhausted from the cover up. I just want to relax, understand who I really am, and be that person. And I just don't know how folks are going to react to the doormat deciding not to be a doormat anymore.


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11 Jun 2012, 7:05 pm

Budfarmer wrote:
Hi, let me introduce myself...

I'm 48 years old and I was diagnosed with Aspergers about a month ago but by then, the diagnoses was sort of like the answer key at the end of a very complex text book. And it came almost as a relief. When I was a child Autism was rarely talked about, was a "disease" that affected mostly boys, and nobody had ever heard of Aspergers. But that didn't change the fact that I had these traits and I learned to cover them up.

I grew up and came to be known as someone who was startlingly intelligent, extremely shy and introverted, and a little quirky with no close friends. But everybody seems to like me...but then, why wouldn't they, I'm a very brilliant door mat. There's nothing not to like... I make sure of that.

Anyway, with my diagnosis came a lot of self-introspection and I've come to the conclusion that I am extremely tired of hiding who I am and I really, really want the time to contemplate exactly who that is. I've hidden everything about me for so many years that there isn't a single soul on the face of this earth who really knows me for who I am when I'm alone. Not my friends, not my family, not even my own husband. I am extremely adept at covering up the aspects of me that I don't want anyone to see... (example: I smoked pot for 3 years before my husband knew and even then, I had to tell him.)

BUT... now that I know, and I've let a little of my facade slip, I think I'm losing contact with it... it's like my stimming has increased to the point I can't cover any more and even I'm starting to be aware of it.

And I cry ALL the time.

And I can't focus on anything any more... it's like the depression is taking over and tearing down the mask I've worn for 48 years...the one that covers my Aspieness. I am failing at the job I've held for 11 years and I'm afraid I'm going to be let go.

What do you do when you just can't keep it inside anymore? I've set myself up to fail by pretending to be NT for so long and thinking I was doing a great job of acting... Well, I was. Too good. Now everybody is mad at me because I can't be that person any more. And I don't know what to do...

I hate my job, I hate my life, I hate dealing with everyone around me. My son calls me every day for money, my EX daughter in law calls every day for whatever reason. She is drama personified and I get stomach aches when I see her name on the caller ID. I do not have the ability to say no to their requests because I cannot lie. If they ask if I have $20, I can't say no when I know full well that I do and I can't deny them because they are so broke and I feel guilty if I say no. So now I'm broke, and my credit cards are maxed out and they still call every day and I just want to crawl into a hole and pull the hole in after me.

Thanks for letting me rant...

I'll be okay.



Crap, I feel awful for you.

Piece of advice, exercise.

Stick to your routine.


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12 Jun 2012, 8:28 am

I'm so happy your interview went well. That gives me hope. I'm severely burnt-out at my job of 15 years but I don't interview well at all. Your story sounds a lot like mine.



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12 Jun 2012, 9:50 am

VICTORY!

Okay, today I had a small victory. I have been in the same job for 12 years. For 10 of those years, I worked for a boss who didn't care where I sat or how I got the job done, as long as all my deadlines were met and everything was covered. It worked well for me because it allowed me to withdraw when the office got too noisy.

Then, 2 years ago I got a new boss and I'm been struggling ever since because he wants me in a cubicle where he knows where I am all the time. My cubicle was in a very noisy location and it has been detrimental to my work performance AND my health.

I finally broke down and had to reveal my AS and ask for help. And that still didn't make an impact. So I wrote a nice letter to HR, complete with a note from my doctor saying that I needed a workspace with minimal distractions.

Today, I am in my new cubicle, WITH A WINDOW, off in a quiet corner. I feel SO much better today!


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12 Jun 2012, 10:50 am

Lovely! I consider that a big victory! :thumleft: :salut: