Workplace gave me a death sentence...

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Whatever. You've made your opinion VERY clear and have repeated it often. What merit it may have has been duly noted. If you have nothing else to contribute, please move on. Further comments will be plainly obvious as trolling and will need to be escalated if they don't stop. Please stop.

Thanks for agreeing with me that I wasn't trolling; now an apology is due (I will wait)
If you don't want me to respond, don't respond to what I am saying.

Being late does not equal poor work ethic, in my experience. Neither does being early mean someone has a strong work ethic.

I've known people who were horrible workers who were sometimes up to an hour early for work. The "king of grievances" that I once worked with was this way. He was always early, overdressed, looked very professional, and spent nearly half his work hours working on grievances he was constantly filing and the other half doing a piss-poor job that others would have to come after him and correct. He was a supervisor's nightmare, a co-worker's nightmare, even an EEO officer's nightmare. I used to suspect he came in early just to gather information he thought would help him in his idiotic claims.

I've also had jobs where if I arrived early, I was forced to just start work - the phone would be ringing, people waiting at my desk to talk to me about work. So I would wind up putting in an extra half hour for free to an employer that refused to pay overtime for it - because it wasn't planned and approved in advance.

That's not work ethic.

May I ask that everyone please just ignore zxy8's posts in this thread? Please don't respond to the bait and just leave it alone.
He's repeatedly made his point, "People who are late should be fired. Period." Leave it at that and move on or I'll have to just close the thread due to oversaturation of toxic flamebait.

Leave it. Ignore it. Move on.


That said, I'm probably moving on too... they just fired another guy last night or this morning... he's gone. This kind of tense "who's next" environment just sucks!

I hoe you do find another job soon. The conditions you describe sounds horrible, I would be stressed out about it myself.

Sounds like it has quickly become a very toxic environment to work in. I wish I had something useful to say. *triple hugs* I wish I could give you a big hug and bake you some cookies!

My secret weakness! That's how I got my little extra tummy. *poke*

Thanks for the good vibes though... you've been through a rough time yourself! I think MOST of us have had all kind of problems with employers and employment... those intangible social skills are vastly underplayed by the "normals" but usually mean the difference between us happily staying or being violently booted out because we're unwanted.

This feels more like a "social club" thing than a genuine "time" issue -- especially when one starts connecting the dots by seeing who's being let go. (Eg: none of the "cool kids" are, despite their many smoke breaks...)

Just wondering, is employer-based health benefits of any importance in Canada?

For extra stuff like dental work and braces or for prescription drugs, yes.

Even without extra benefits, it's still not nearly as expensive than the system down south in the USA. Getting sick there can cost you your house!

My kid needs $5000 in orthodontics though.... having the health plan cut that in half sure is nice.

You know what, it sounds like upper management has said they need to lay off people but don't want to pay unemployment benefits. If they fire someone for cause, it's possible they don't have to pay. So they came up with being late as the reason, which is a fairly common occurrence. If you do get fired before finding a new position you might want to consult with legal aid or something, see if they're doing this legally. I'm not a lawyer, but I really don't think it's likely legal to fire someone for one late day. I think they have to track a pattern of tardiness for it to legally stick. But most people won't fight it, especially if they hate working there. I'm really sorry this is happening.

Best of luck, I hope you find a position you like better, and soon.

Sounds like my first job. Suddenly after 7 years I was getting written up for literally everything, including being 1 minute late once. I also was framed for major violations like giving a 90% discount of something I never even knew existed. When I pointed out 2 hour lunch breaks, lazy work ethics and dishonesty of others I was branded a whiner and told to stop blaming others. Whatever! At that job, they rarely fired anyone so if they wanted to get rid of anyone (never the 'popular' crowd, always the honest, hardworking types) they just enforced the rules with insane precision while ignoring the rulebook for everyone else.

Hot damn... my weakness is cooking for people! If I don't make food for people frequently I start fiending like a food-making junkie of some sort.

We're totally a strange version of that old Reeses peanut butter cups advertisement right now

Especially since we're polar opposites in so many ways.

Yeah. I guess you're right. He just seems to begin to understand, though. Sad, but true that he has that kind of thinking, especially that he thinks that if you are a minute or so late you should be fired. I just don't get it how you can be of that opinion. That is to my mind totally irrational.

I would say aspie on a wrong track. I have been there as well too many times and hate myself for that.
Weird kind of thinking sometimes happens, even that you leave out important aspects. Looks like he has been just diagnosed and is a little bit puzzled that aspies can be so different from him. Looks like he will change his mind.

That what counts is how loyal you are to your employer and how much you are willing to do overtime and such things if there is tough times at the company.

I think you are a great worker and to me it wouldn't matter to me at all if you are late. I like aspies for their loyalty and their compassion to think, to systemize and most of us work very hard to make employers more than satisfied. Coming 1 or even 5 minutes too late is nothing compared to that what you earn as a surplus when the employer has an aspie as a worker.

It might well be that if you are in wrong working place or in bad trouble that you are not able to fulfil the expectations (temporarily).
But if you are in right place and feel well then you can rock the world, take an amazing working load and do things that nobody thinks would be even possible!

So sad also that there are so few "businessmen" that understand this. Or that nobody stops that guy that introduced these new rules.
Maybe it is just as somebody said that they want to reduce the amount of workers.

But then, probably it is not you that they are targeting for.

Even NTs do get stressed for that.
But, probably not the "unloyal ones" that are coming late without a reason or even just don't care,
but the other ones, the good workers, get stressed.

NTs are sometimes really great in not understanding the really important things...
And if you try to explain them they just think you are crazy or you don't understand the "rules"