13 Aug 2019, 4:44 am
ASS-P wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Who visits you in shelters and on street? What is going to stop someone from taking your money and or knocking you out and raping you in shelters and out on the street? I never associated living in a home with being stranded. I would feel stranded if I were out on the street. I find the idea of me being put out on the street terrifying.
I expect when I get a room in a care home, I will wake up and eat breakfast. Either what the place is serving or what I have on hand. But most likely what they are serving. Then I will spend time on the internet doing whatever. Then lunch. Then internet. Then dinner. Then internet. Then bed. Hopefully I will be taken for a stroll each day. But that will be pretty much it daily. I plan on having my phone, laptop and small TV. A bed, a desk, a chair, some clothes and toiletries. I can not think of anything else I will need. Maybe a mini- fridge and a microwave.
I expect when I get a room in a care home, I will wake up and eat breakfast. Either what the place is serving or what I have on hand. But most likely what they are serving. Then I will spend time on the internet doing whatever. Then lunch. Then internet. Then dinner. Then internet. Then bed. Hopefully I will be taken for a stroll each day. But that will be pretty much it daily. I plan on having my phone, laptop and small TV. A bed, a desk, a chair, some clothes and toiletries. I can not think of anything else I will need. Maybe a mini- fridge and a microwave.
Are 'care homes' real homes, where people allow you to stay in one of their rooms? Or are they a facility? Do they take control of your money away too? Or are they just paid a flat monthly fee for their services? It would make me very uncomfortable to relinquish control of my money. All my mother-in-law did was get old, the workers who came into her home to care for her were always running a scam on her. We had to take her check book away because she would write checks and forget she'd already paid her aid, and they wouldn't tell her either. They just took the extra money. It was horrible. She hated having her money taken away from her, I can't blame her. It was the last little bit of her independence.
I had no idea that the care home places drugged and raped their charges. That's so awful!
...I'm not saying that drugging or raping happens all the time. I supposed not even the majority of times. Still. I suppose it has happened - and given what has happened to me in the past
and given their non-true statements on the existence of public transport there and money-ducking and more, my imagination ran to the bad " What if? ".There was a notorious case in Sacramento in the Eighties where the runner of a boarding home for lonely old men took over their lives - and killed them and secretly buried them and kept receiving their Social Security checks, so...
I tend to be very tired/exausted/back-aching-weight when I go out. now...
Personally I do not get how someone could possibly be safer out on the street. Or healthier.
13 Aug 2019, 4:45 pm
...Perhaps it is not clear to Ezra that I have not been regularly on-the-street homeless for a long long time. After I had my heart attack and the CHF set in , I have not been able to regularly do that.
He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you .
Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait . That would be good in their eyes.
Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me! 
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack. 
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" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
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13 Aug 2019, 10:38 pm
..Briefly, I'm feeling somewhat better now. 
artly, because I are a piece of edible pot.
, 50/50 CBD and THC.
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
13 Aug 2019, 11:28 pm
...People say I don't need to improve my (near non-existent) computer ability. YES I DO . Why am I not allowed to find out Yes, I said " magic kingdom ". apparently foverermore denied to me . I can't even find out how to put a new picture in a Facebook post! Do you feel you're being consoling to me, because I'll never find out . so you make me feel better ? Is that it?
In the modern world PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO SOME COMPUTER STUFF!
You know there's no way in the world. I could go to college. even " just " night school. absent improved computer knowledge
I'm crippled. slow-moving. Homeless, I have this curfew. maybe I , act , sorta homeless and of course. the hood ol' Adpergers' difficulty with social codes - Even. maybe, , bad habits " I could have developed non-taught in computer-ing, and, yes, my clumsiness - perhaps a course could supplement one-on-one. nut I'd like one-on-one Before I die. I'd like to know! I'm not asking for money or material gifts. just knowledge . I"m basically BEGHING yo be " taught to fish "! But no...
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
13 Aug 2019, 11:38 pm
ASS-P wrote:
...Perhaps it is not clear to Ezra that I have not been regularly on-the-street homeless for a long long time. After I had my heart attack and the CHF set in , I have not been able to regularly do that.
He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you .
Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait. That would be good in their eyes.
Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
, I have not been able to regularly do that.He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you
.Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait
. That would be good in their eyes.Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
I know of people who live in care homes. I am exchanging PMs right now with a member who lives in one. And they are not anywhere close to being like you describe. And yes of course schlepping around out on the streets for someone in the condition you describe being in, is going to kill them.
14 Aug 2019, 12:19 am
ASS-P wrote:
...People say I don't need to improve my (near non-existent) computer ability. YES I DO . Why am I not allowed to find out Yes, I said " magic kingdom ". apparently foverermore denied to me . I can't even find out how to put a new picture in a Facebook post! Do you feel you're being consoling to me, because I'll never find out . so you make me feel better ? Is that it?
In the modern world PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO SOME COMPUTER STUFF!
You know there's no way in the world. I could go to college. even " just " night school. absent improved computer knowledge
I'm crippled. slow-moving. Homeless, I have this curfew. maybe I , act , sorta homeless and of course. the hood ol' Adpergers' difficulty with social codes - Even. maybe, , bad habits " I could have developed non-taught in computer-ing, and, yes, my clumsiness - perhaps a course could supplement one-on-one. nut I'd like one-on-one Before I die. I'd like to know! I'm not asking for money or material gifts. just knowledge . I"m basically BEGHING yo be " taught to fish "! But no...
. Why am I not allowed to find out Yes, I said " magic kingdom ". apparently foverermore denied to me . I can't even find out how to put a new picture in a Facebook post! Do you feel you're being consoling to me, because I'll never find out . so you make me feel better ? Is that it?In the modern world PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO SOME COMPUTER STUFF!
You know there's no way in the world. I could go to college. even " just " night school. absent improved computer knowledge
I'm crippled. slow-moving. Homeless, I have this curfew. maybe I , act , sorta homeless and of course. the hood ol'
Adpergers' difficulty with social codes - Even. maybe, , bad habits " I could have developed non-taught in computer-ing, and, yes, my clumsiness - perhaps a course could supplement one-on-one. nut I'd like one-on-one Before I die. I'd like to know! I'm not asking for money or material gifts. just knowledge . I"m basically BEGHING yo be " taught to fish "! But no...In the modern world computers are set up for dummies. I finished most of my senior year via computer and I did not need any computer lessons to do it. Far as I know these days the only thing a person needs lessons for is advanced work like writing code (such as is needed in designing computer games), programming and working as computer technician.
What computer stuff do you need to be taught?
14 Aug 2019, 12:51 am
ASS-P wrote:
...Perhaps it is not clear to Ezra that I have not been regularly on-the-street homeless for a long long time. After I had my heart attack and the CHF set in , I have not been able to regularly do that.
He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you .
Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait. That would be good in their eyes.
Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
, I have not been able to regularly do that.He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you
.Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait
. That would be good in their eyes.Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
Are saying to Ezra that you have NOT been steadily homeless for a long, long time?
From your posts it seems like you were put in an institution when you were around 21 years old. You are what 58 or 59 now? Did you have an indoors place to live most of those years after you were released?
As for learning how to do computer things, read the instructions! Google - how do I post a picture on Facebook? Right now I could not tell you how to do it, but I know I’ve posted photos on FB. If I want to do it again I’ll look up how to, on the internet.
If you want lessons, can’t you use some of your SSDI money to pay for a couple of one on one lessons? You used to go to computer labs to use the internet, can’t you get lessons at a place like that?
14 Aug 2019, 3:29 am
...The labs nest me now in SF, where I am stuck...Onr was rather nasty yo me. The other, well, maybe it was questionable? Noe that I'm crippled by the CHF, getting around is harder and beeping.appointments.
With the super-minimal equipment I have, and the conditions I'd have. and that using instructions alone is hard - And, again. I just have this low-end phone ' All alone, you're not going to learn much on it .
Money-wise, I do get tempted by food (& the chance to stop & rest ) - and my having to spend money over and over again to re-buy the same lost & stolen basics . Extreme example: Have I spent over 300 dollars? Over 400? combined these last week's in S.F., with four?? phoned stolen from me/lost? (meaning five phones including this one)
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
14 Aug 2019, 4:24 am
14 Aug 2019, 4:36 am
14 Aug 2019, 4:39 am
ASS-P wrote:
...The labs nest me now in SF, where I am stuck...Onr was rather nasty yo me. The other, well, maybe it was questionable? Noe that I'm crippled by the CHF, getting around is harder and beeping.appointments.
With the super-minimal equipment I have, and the conditions I'd have. and that using instructions alone is hard - And, again. I just have this low-end phone ' All alone, you're not going to learn much on it .
Money-wise, I do get tempted by food (& the chance to stop & rest ) - and my having to spend money over and over again to re-buy the same lost & stolen basics . Extreme example: Have I spent over 300 dollars? Over 400? combined these last week's in S.F., with four?? phoned stolen from me/lost? (meaning five phones including this one)
With the super-minimal equipment I have, and the conditions I'd have. and that using instructions alone is hard - And, again. I just have this low-end phone ' All alone, you're not going to learn much on it
.Money-wise, I do get tempted by food (& the chance to stop & rest
) - and my having to spend money over and over again to re-buy the same lost & stolen basics . Extreme example: Have I spent over 300 dollars? Over 400? combined these last week's in S.F., with four?? phoned stolen from me/lost? (meaning five phones including this one)I think you should sleep with your phone in your socks, your front pants pocket or down your pants. I can't say for sure, but I'm hoping they won't go into your clothing after your phone or if they tried to, hopefully you would feel them doing it and wake up.
14 Aug 2019, 4:45 am
ASS-P wrote:
...Perhaps it is not clear to Ezra that I have not been regularly on-the-street homeless for a long long time. After I had my heart attack and the CHF set in , I have not been able to regularly do that.
He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you .
Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait. That would be good in their eyes.
Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
, I have not been able to regularly do that.He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you
.Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait
. That would be good in their eyes.Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
Someone is supposed to come and be sure you are okay in these places. A person has the right to be able to lock their door and pay for their own internet access. I wouldn't trust it to the home though, because you just never know. But if Ezra paid his bill, locks his door, has his own equipment, how can they take it away? Are you saying they knock the door down and physically steal everything?
14 Aug 2019, 4:48 am
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Who visits you in shelters and on street? What is going to stop someone from taking your money and or knocking you out and raping you in shelters and out on the street? I never associated living in a home with being stranded. I would feel stranded if I were out on the street. I find the idea of me being put out on the street terrifying.
I expect when I get a room in a care home, I will wake up and eat breakfast. Either what the place is serving or what I have on hand. But most likely what they are serving. Then I will spend time on the internet doing whatever. Then lunch. Then internet. Then dinner. Then internet. Then bed. Hopefully I will be taken for a stroll each day. But that will be pretty much it daily. I plan on having my phone, laptop and small TV. A bed, a desk, a chair, some clothes and toiletries. I can not think of anything else I will need. Maybe a mini- fridge and a microwave.
I expect when I get a room in a care home, I will wake up and eat breakfast. Either what the place is serving or what I have on hand. But most likely what they are serving. Then I will spend time on the internet doing whatever. Then lunch. Then internet. Then dinner. Then internet. Then bed. Hopefully I will be taken for a stroll each day. But that will be pretty much it daily. I plan on having my phone, laptop and small TV. A bed, a desk, a chair, some clothes and toiletries. I can not think of anything else I will need. Maybe a mini- fridge and a microwave.
Are 'care homes' real homes, where people allow you to stay in one of their rooms? Or are they a facility? Do they take control of your money away too? Or are they just paid a flat monthly fee for their services? It would make me very uncomfortable to relinquish control of my money. All my mother-in-law did was get old, the workers who came into her home to care for her were always running a scam on her. We had to take her check book away because she would write checks and forget she'd already paid her aid, and they wouldn't tell her either. They just took the extra money. It was horrible. She hated having her money taken away from her, I can't blame her. It was the last little bit of her independence.
I had no idea that the care home places drugged and raped their charges. That's so awful!
The kind of care home I have been talking about is a residential home that has been converted to clinic type facility and has a staff of caretakers. A fee is paid to live there the same as a big nursing home or hospice. Contracts are made out to protect both parties.
There have been instances where people have been abused in hospitals, nursing homes, care homes and the like. But it is not like it is a common practice.
If all those dangers were common I would not be seeking to live in a care home.
Also I am currently exchanging PMs with someone who has similar disabilities as me, who is living in a care home and they have not relayed any horror stories to me or warned me of any dangers.
I am sure this person, like me, would much rather live in a care home than be out on the street.
I'm happy for you, Ezra. I hope it works out just the way you want it too. If it doesn't, send up smoke signals and WP will send a Nerd Posse in after you!
14 Aug 2019, 7:51 am
Persephone29 wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
...Perhaps it is not clear to Ezra that I have not been regularly on-the-street homeless for a long long time. After I had my heart attack and the CHF set in , I have not been able to regularly do that.
He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you .
Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait. That would be good in their eyes.
Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
, I have not been able to regularly do that.He sees care-home people as nicer, and better situations, than I have. He speaks of doing lots of Internet there - I would tend to think of a care home as someone who, if they did stop a person from using the Internet completely, would sharply reduce the amount of time you bad for it and it's scope - People who take things away from you
.Likewise, they d want to force psychoactive drugs on you, literally force you, perhaps, and watch you gurgle in a chait
. That would be good in their eyes.Maybe they'd say about a person " He's not good.for anything but being on a back ward the rest of his life, as they said about me!
I walk so slow now - maybe I'm heading for a CHF heart attack.
Someone is supposed to come and be sure you are okay in these places. A person has the right to be able to lock their door and pay for their own internet access. I wouldn't trust it to the home though, because you just never know. But if Ezra paid his bill, locks his door, has his own equipment, how can they take it away? Are you saying they knock the door down and physically steal everything?
Nothing like that happens 99% of the time. As far as I know those places are equipped with wifi and probably cable. The more time residents spend watching tv or are on the internet, the less work it is for them (the staff).
You pay a fee just like paying rent and all your other personal bills are paid by you the way you have always paid them or had them paid.
As long as you are not flagged as a flight risk you can come and go. But you do need to check out and check back in and get back by a certain time. One of their biggest concerns is liability, so they are going to want to keep tabs on you.
Usually one gets picked up by some sort of community transit. You have probably seen small buses around like I have. And many of those are transporting seniors and disabled people.
14 Aug 2019, 7:55 am
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