Why is everyone unreasonable?

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27 Nov 2019, 8:35 am

I agree.

What I mean is my contact with people at work.

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28 Nov 2019, 12:17 am

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It is a naive question from me I know, but can someone explain to me what motivates someone to "troll." I can't get my head round why someone would want to be so negative and destructive just for the sake of it. It's totally beyond my comprehension.


I'm not an expert but I think the underlying motivation is a desire to be noticed or seek attention. The destructive aspect is variable and depends on the context.

No one "type" of troll - they can be wealthy or poor....extroverted or introverted.....lonely or have lots of friends.....neurotic or narcissistic.....

Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype



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28 Nov 2019, 1:38 am

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Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype


To be fair, most incel trolls don't get millions from their parents throughout their lifetime like a certain troll-in-chief.

I'd imagine if the typical incel troll was given similar economic stimulus they too could have a lifetime of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.


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29 Nov 2019, 1:25 am

funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype


To be fair, most incel trolls don't get millions from their parents throughout their lifetime like a certain troll-in-chief.

I'd imagine if the typical incel troll was given similar economic stimulus they too could have a lifetime of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.


A bit of a lottery although Donald likely inherited his personality disorders from his father



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29 Nov 2019, 1:54 pm

cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype


To be fair, most incel trolls don't get millions from their parents throughout their lifetime like a certain troll-in-chief.

I'd imagine if the typical incel troll was given similar economic stimulus they too could have a lifetime of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.


A bit of a lottery although Donald likely inherited his personality disorders from his father


Wouldn't that be true of many trolls, that their personalities are influenced and predisposed by whatever they inherited from their parents?

Most of them didn't have loads of money to inherit, but they still had the genetic side to inherit.


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29 Nov 2019, 6:53 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Wouldn't that be true of many trolls, that their personalities are influenced and predisposed by whatever they inherited from their parents?

Most of them didn't have loads of money to inherit, but they still had the genetic side to inherit.


The Nature Vs Nurture debate again. All depends really.



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29 Nov 2019, 9:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype


To be fair, most incel trolls don't get millions from their parents throughout their lifetime like a certain troll-in-chief.

I'd imagine if the typical incel troll was given similar economic stimulus they too could have a lifetime of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.


I wonder where he'd be if he hadn't grown up in a wealthy family, and essentially had wealth handed to him.


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29 Nov 2019, 9:15 pm

Where do pathological liars with no shame and a compulsive need to manipulate others usually end up? I think there are two answers to this - 1. at the bottom (they get caught early and go to jail, they don't have the means to pay people off) 2. they gravitate to the top (Bernie Madoff is a prime example) where the public admires and enables them, because the successful pathological manipulators don't fit the "pathetic loner" stereotype that the general public naively equates with pathological personalities. Only a handful of the latter type get caught, though the GFC that hit in 2008 exposed a few more. There are thousands of type 2s out there. Trump is not as unique as he likes to pretend in that respect.



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29 Nov 2019, 10:13 pm

This ^

In order to rise to the top of capitalist food chain you need to have some level of sociopathic or even psychopathic tendencies. So all of this should not be a surprise. Trump's qualities are not unique, he lacks a filter but is untouched because of his wealth which was handed to him on a sliver platter.



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30 Nov 2019, 4:02 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Donald Trump is a twitter troll but doesn't quite fit the usual "incel" living in their parent's basement stereotype


To be fair, most incel trolls don't get millions from their parents throughout their lifetime like a certain troll-in-chief.

I'd imagine if the typical incel troll was given similar economic stimulus they too could have a lifetime of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.


I wonder where he'd be if he hadn't grown up in a wealthy family, and essentially had wealth handed to him.


Tweeting angrily from a less nice apartment on a less expensive phone? :lol:


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