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sinsboldly
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26 Oct 2007, 10:22 pm

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Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/


Thank you for posting the resouces. Alcoholism is a debilitating condition and how ever it can be overcome or dormant is a blessing indeed!

Merle



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29 Oct 2007, 6:49 pm

am late to this thread,never seem to see the stickies.

anyone else in same situation--alcoholic parents or other relatives?
mum has been an alcoholic for years,and at least two of her sisters were to.
am was moved out by ss because of mums' alcoholism as she is violent and abusive when drunk alcohol [yet completely different when sober]sister moved out to for same reason.
she is drunk every day if she has the money to buy alcohol [it's always tesco value gin],and she also has admitted to having depression for years [untreated],her liver is not in a good way because of the alcohol,she doesn't go for any further liver tests.
alcohol can make very nice people-bad,some say alcohol just brings out what is already there but mum is nothing like what she's like when drunk.



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29 Oct 2007, 9:11 pm

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alcohol can make very nice people-bad,some say alcohol just brings out what is already there but mum is nothing like what she's like when drunk.


that's why they call it 'spirits'. I used to be entered by entities when I was drunk, becoming a personality I never had when sober. Alcoholism is a bad business and I have found strict abstainance to be my only defense against it.

all my best,
Merle



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04 Dec 2007, 12:56 pm

Hey, I just found this sticky!

I'm an alcoholic in recovery for just over 3 years, thanks to AA. I bottomed out, was ready for help and found it in the rooms. It worked for me when nothing else did. I've never felt more at home, and accepted for who I am, and felt like I belonged than in those rooms. The people and the program helped me not just to not drink but to approach life in a way that really works for me infinitely better than before. I encourage everyone who is abusing alcohol or anything to give it a try, and by give it a try I mean whole-heartedly. The worst that could happen is that it doesn't work but you meet some wonderful people and you can try something else (Dokken provided a nice list), having lost nothing.

For those with loved ones who are alcoholics or addicts, Al-Anon I hear is a great support group for that.



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04 Dec 2007, 11:45 pm

My Dads an alcoholic
It ruins relationships, he hurts me with his cruel words but i know its the boze not him.


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05 Dec 2007, 4:08 pm

Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive



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05 Dec 2007, 9:42 pm

richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle



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07 Dec 2007, 5:41 pm

I am shocked 8O

I got drunk last night at a club and i kissed a random guy. I am not proud and i now know personally that yes alcoho can make you do some crazy s*** especially when you drink it on an empty stomach Im really bad :oops:


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09 Dec 2007, 7:12 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle
oh is it free?



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10 Dec 2007, 4:09 am

Iv only been drunk once in my life and that enough to never ever drink again (non alcoholic beverages are ok and nescessry to maintain hydration)


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15 Dec 2007, 9:27 pm

richardbenson wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle
oh is it free?


mine was. . .oh I kicked in a couple bucks from time to time, but I went maybe three to five times a week for ten years and it was free.

why pay for it when it works for free?

Merle

ps sorry it took so long to get this posted, but sometimes WP doesn't tell me that a post has been replied to.
Sometimes WP does, this time it didn't



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18 Jan 2008, 9:33 pm

Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/


All of these are free, except for their books. Rehabs tend to use the 12-Step method. So, you should ask the rehab, if you're planning on going to one, if they use the 12-Steps. 95% of rehabs in the USA use the 12-Steps.


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26 Jan 2008, 9:38 pm

Actually, I think this thread should stay right here in the help me forum.

I have a substance abuse problem.
The substance abuse people looked at me like I was crazy and I had to argue the feasability of treatment options *with them*.

The substance is tobacco.

I will try to enter inpatient in a few months with the blessings of my employer, if the case.
I know me. I know it is the only way.

I dont drink. I don't not drink either. I consider it irrelevant. It is not my vice.
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31 Jan 2008, 2:48 pm

SeaBright wrote:
Actually, I think this thread should stay right here in the help me forum.

I have a substance abuse problem.
The substance abuse people looked at me like I was crazy and I had to argue the feasability of treatment options *with them*.

The substance is tobacco.

I will try to enter inpatient in a few months with the blessings of my employer, if the case.
I know me. I know it is the only way.

I dont drink. I don't not drink either. I consider it irrelevant. It is not my vice.
Sea


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you gotta do what you gotta do.

all the best,

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15 Feb 2008, 5:49 pm

Addictions Publicized, not anonymous topic

It is good these problems are out in the open.

I have never had an alcohol problem. There is enough liquor and beer addicts in my family that I will pass on drinking. :)

I quit smoking 27 years ago. :D

But other addicitons/risk taking can surface. there are other family members with Rx drug addicitons, and gambling issues. I indulge in neither vice, though I realize tht it is possible at any time I have to take strong painkillers, expecially OTC, that problems can arise.

I empathize with anone dealing with these issues, illegal drugs-substance abuse included.


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