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26 Jan 2017, 2:20 am

ASS-P, you are not a sane person. You should have stayed in the psychiatric hospital that you were committed to or at least been transferred to one that didn't abuse you. This thing we call "life"... and how to live it... you just can not handle.

A hospital is the BEST place for you to be... yet, you think it's the worst place. You are deluded and incompetent to understand what is right for you. The best thing anyone could do is take you away under force.

No... I don't care enough about you to do that or anything else for you... but that is the BEST thing someone could do for you. Anyone who KNOWS what his life is like, will know that. Let's not BS.

You were just given advice about the Golden Gate Regional Center and completely ignored it. THAT is why people do not want to help you. THAT is why. It's not "mean Tobes"... no. It's the way you act. You live in a fantasy world but in the real world, you are dying a slow death for a complete fantasy that you call "freedom."

University costs $5000, just to live in a dorm and audit a class for a semester. I suppose you'll just find that money on a tree, huh? There is no way in hell, unless someone takes complete and utter pity on you, that you will ever attend University. Ever. Not only that, people would not play with you in the quadrangle unless, again, they took complete pity on you.



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26 Jan 2017, 2:32 am

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ASS-P, you are not a sane person. You should have stayed in the psychiatric hospital that you were committed to or at least been transferred to one that didn't abuse you. This thing we call "life"... and how to live it... you just can not handle.

A hospital is the BEST place for you to be... yet, you think it's the worst place. You are deluded and incompetent to understand what is right for you. The best thing anyone could do is take you away under force.

No... I don't care enough about you to do that or anything else for you... but that is the BEST thing someone could do for you. Anyone who KNOWS what his life is like, will know that. Let's not BS.

You were just given advice about the Golden Gate Regional Center and completely ignored it. THAT is why people do not want to help you. THAT is why. It's not "mean Tobes"... no. It's the way you act. You live in a fantasy world but in the real world, you are dying a slow death for a complete fantasy that you call "freedom."

University costs $5000, just to live in a dorm and audit a class for a semester. I suppose you'll just find that money on a tree, huh? There is no way in hell, unless someone takes complete and utter pity on you, that you will ever attend University. Ever. Not only that, people would not play with you in the quadrangle unless, again, they took complete pity on you.


Reported,

And for the record,

I don't think you are very sane either,

Why don't you go to a psychiatric hospital and see what kind of "help" they offer, granted its clear ASS-P can't take care of himself but I can't hardy blame him for not wanting to be in one on his birthday. You have some kind of major malfunction and I am not sure what it is but if you don't have anything nice to say, then leave, you said you were going to pages ago, what happened to that idea? If ASS-P can't function then leave him here to not function, what is your problem to attack him directly?



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26 Jan 2017, 2:37 am

That is not a post that should be reported. It's the blatant truth by someone who knows him well enough to know what's best for him.

If you report that post, then you should report the one by ASS-P some posts above where he told me and some other people to F off and that we're evil, etc.

By the way, any updates about getting him to Nashville? I didn't think so.

You do make a good point, though. If you can't say something nice, don't say it. I feel sorry for any future posters who haven't yet learned the lesson that this man can't be helped.



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26 Jan 2017, 2:40 am

...For a brief , factually oriented , response (I am watching an old movie on TCM now .) I am not in a psycniatric .
hospital . I am in a regular , medical , one . I was tempted to say where I am , but I will not . I did , however , say something that hints at where I am , if you know something about San Francisco .
I,m glad that DC sees .
, as well , how freaked-out Tobes is getting !...has gotten .:x :twisted:


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" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
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26 Jan 2017, 2:44 am

Tobes wrote:
You do make a good point, though. If you can't say something nice, don't say it. I feel sorry for any future posters who haven't yet learned the lesson that this man can't be helped.


That is not your call to make Dr. Tobes,

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By the way, any updates about getting him to Nashville? I didn't think so.


I am having my own issue right now but I might cross paths with ASS-P who knows but regardless, putting some positive thought into it is more then what you can say you have done. Also depending on what insurance this dude has, the homeless shelter here, with as many problems as it has, is probably better then a state hospital.

I would like to commit you to a state hospital actually, I think it would do you wonders :roll:



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26 Jan 2017, 2:48 am

8O Wow a homeless person with problems 8O

I am shocked and amazed :roll:

If you can't relate then why are you here?



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26 Jan 2017, 3:09 am

Well... Good riddance...

Keep fighting ASS-P,

Dream big,

You control more then you think,

And do try and take care of yourself,

No one is a saint on the streets, I don't doubt people have tried to help you. Thus my comment about homeless people with problems, make a plan each day and execute it to the best of your ability.

And don't burn bridges, I am not going to bail you out everytime someone calls you out ASS-P.

Situation sucks? Fix it,

You have disability, you have resources, stop relying on these haters, you don't need their pity and they sure as hell don't understand I can tell you that.



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26 Jan 2017, 8:49 am

I wish ASS-P could find an SRO-type situation with medical care nearby. That takes maybe half his SSDI money as rent.

With his own bathroom. And a stove and fridge.

Then he can invite his friends over to talk about comics and retro music.

To get this, though, he would probably have to kiss a little butt sometimes. Bite the bullet sometimes.



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26 Jan 2017, 9:43 am

...Anything else aside , let me oint out , please...........that I have received a PM from Tobes which finishes with him telling me (This makes up an entire short paragraph):
: Life might be easier if you just jumped off a bridge . Instead of complaining every single day , you can finally rid yourself of a life that doesn,t want you . : ! :? Letter-for-letter , exact quote .
Hello ? 8)
Please pardon my non-PC terms , but this bloke/dude is coming off schizzy/nuts . :( :lol: We seemed to be friends once :cry: .


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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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26 Jan 2017, 9:52 am

I have reported this situation to admins and asked if the thread could be locked.

ASS-P, although I don't feel there is anything at all I can do to help you, I certainly don't feel you should jump off a bridge or anything similar. You are as entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as any of us is.

I hope you have a good day.


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26 Jan 2017, 10:14 am

...Bea , I do not want this thread shut down ! And I don,t believe you should have any say in this ! :evil:
I reported Tobes, , possibly seen as : linecrossing : , PM comments to me just now - That has no relation to here . I do not believe you have even commented in this line before now !
Frankly , too , we in the past have gone our own seperate ways , with IIRC you coming up wiith a : I wash my hands of you : disparagement of me which I suppose was more polite than the other disparagements earlier in this line...Then , though with a bit of a hiccup , we went our seperate ways on this board .
Are you trying to shut my line , in which I have said many things I want to say about myself , becuse of your dislike for me ?
Is that fair :cry: ?
Please withdraw your request to have this thread locked .
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am of : low status : on this board , I suppose , and have little to fall back on , certainly materially speaking :cry: .


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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26 Jan 2017, 10:56 am

I think that was more an attack on me ASS-P then you if its true...

Giving that I just tried to jump off a bridge...

Ignore Tobes and people like Tobes and try and get your stuff together. I would stop buying the same things and try and get into some level of housing, make due with what you can get from shelters. Remember that rather you are homeless having problems, rather your in housing having problems, rather your in college having problems. There will always be that person that will focus on the problems more than the person.



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26 Jan 2017, 11:05 am

And also Tobes really doesn't have a freaking clue how the mental health system even works in America,

What he thinks is going to happen after you get "committed" is beyond me, America doesn't have asylums, we closed them. There are very few places that would hold you for longer then 30 days. They take you in and babysit basically so they can collect insurance and throw you out the door.

A psychiatric hospital is not going to solve your housing issue.



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26 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wish ASS-P could find an SRO-type situation with medical care nearby. That takes maybe half his SSDI money as rent.

With his own bathroom. And a stove and fridge.

Then he can invite his friends over to talk about comics and retro music.

To get this, though, he would probably have to kiss a little butt sometimes. Bite the bullet sometimes.


That is not a bad idea,

Group home too, some are less restrictive then others, I was in one where you could leave 24/7. You just had to sign out 8)



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26 Jan 2017, 4:36 pm

ASS-P wrote:
...Anything else aside , let me oint out , please...........that I have received a PM from Tobes which finishes with him telling me (This makes up an entire short paragraph):
: Life might be easier if you just jumped off a bridge . Instead of complaining every single day , you can finally rid yourself of a life that doesn,t want you . : ! :? Letter-for-letter , exact quote .
Hello ? 8)
Please pardon my non-PC terms , but this bloke/dude is coming off schizzy/nuts . :( :lol: We seemed to be friends once :cry: .


If you send the original verbatim PM direct to the modteam (there is a button to do this on the PM page) it will be evaluated as a report. We need to see the original in full exactly as it was received.



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26 Jan 2017, 4:41 pm

dcj123 wrote:
And also Tobes really doesn't have a freaking clue how the mental health system even works in America,

What he thinks is going to happen after you get "committed" is beyond me, America doesn't have asylums, we closed them. There are very few places that would hold you for longer then 30 days. They take you in and babysit basically so they can collect insurance and throw you out the door.

A psychiatric hospital is not going to solve your housing issue.


My "farewell" tour of this forum is taking a while, because people are make revisionist history. These are the facts:

1. Ever since joining this forum, I wanted to offer advice to help people. Shortly after joining, I came across ASS-P's story. Out of anyone on the forum, he seemed to need the most help, so I focused entirely on trying to help him.

2. For four months straight that's all I did on this forum. I contacted lots of people in and out of SF, gathered what research that I could and reached out in the hopes of getting him into a better place in life.

3. Fast-forward to today and he has completely shut me out. The reason why I have made those mean/truthful posts was because after trying so hard to help him and investing so much mental energy into him, he turns around and spits in my face.

4. So, that's where we are at now. This isn't a mean post, so it should not be reported. It is merely stating facts. If you refuse to accept the facts and think I am the one who suddenly turned mean, think again...

5. I would still be trying to help him if he hadn't turned against me. My only intentions for him were for him to thrive. It's unfortunate that he has chosen to ignore and shut-out the one person who was trying to help him the most.