They’re thinking of removing my bus route

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They get paid pretty good. I’d wager over $25 an hour, but they get salary so i dont know not do I know their salary. Retail upper management is paid quite well its everyone else working below them that’s paid crap.

They should raise minimum wage and bring down housing costs. Also there should be more paid leave and such like in Scandinavia and acknowledgment that workers are more productive if they have time to rest and enjoy themselves.

And improve mass transit rather than taking bus stops people rely on.

It’ll never happen. I think what will happen is eventually poor people will be totally useless and they’ll just kill us all. Probably why they’re so hell bent on making us unarmed.

Nah, they'll start another war and give poor people the guns to kill each other. That's how the elites have always done things.

I'm still surprised. $25 per hour isn't that much. Even I make more than that.

$/hr is VERY localized. Wages are pretty low where sly lives.

Despite being EXTREMELY expensive, wages are low where I live, too. Minimum wage is currently $10.45/hr - the lowest in Canada.. while we have the highest cost of almost everything in the country & the 2nd least affordable real estate market In The World. I've logged enough hours for 2 raises (+ a couple small union contract raises) in my apprenticeship program now & am at a gross of $21.16/hr. (started at $17.91 or something like that - which meant a Net of ~$1,987/month.. and the average 1 bedroom apartment in the city rents for $2100) Median HOUSEHOLD income in Vancouver is a bit over $72K gross. Average hourly wage across all British Columbians in 2014 was $26.58 - and it's about the same today since wages haven't really changed much at all here in 40 years.

MANY people who come here to work very quickly find out that they cannot earn enough money to live a decent quality of life here, so after a few months of trying to make a go of it they leave and go somewhere else.

Sly lives in a pretty low wage area, too, but their saving grace is relatively cheap real estate/affordable housing, cheaper gasoline & groceries etc so even though they don't earn big numbers, people there can still get by because things aren't obscenely expensive. Sort of takes me back to Microeconomics class and "the law of one price," which says that things will cost similar amounts around the world. In places where incomes are high, prices are higher, and where incomes are lower, prices are lower. Of course there are anomalies like Vancouver and economically depressed areas with few opportunities like where sly lives in Oregon, but in general, where people earn less - their money tends to go further so it all balances out.

I don't believe Sly's area is "economically depressed" at all. He happens to live near a college town.

One would see the contrast between Sly's area and some place in the Appalachian Mountains of West Virginia.

My nephew was a snowboard instructor in Whistler. He said that among other things, cheese was entirely cost-prohibitive. He wanted us to buy him cheese any time we visited. A brick of cheddar was like $18 Canadian, or something ridiculous like that, and this was years ago. The food was nearly unobtainable. He lived in an abandoned ambulance for a while.

My friend in Missouri was making 6.50 an hour . He now works 15 hour shifts 7 days a week Making $8ish an hour and their food cost more then it does here. That’s considered decent pay for there.
Min wage here is $10ish and going up every year. Housing is getting too expensive here, it’s worse in Eugene. I can’t afford to live in Eugene.

Well, yes... the relative comparison. But from the way sly describes his area there are no major employers, just some small businesses.

I believe all of that and more. Even when other Canadians vacation here they're 'd at how expensive e v e r y t h i n g is. Groceries are expensive, we have the highest gas prices in North America, housing, etc etc. That's a part of why I love the beach.. I spend time, not money. (Aside: Some of my friends from the beach live in RV's, and some travel South East Asia for months in the Winter because it's cheaper than paying to live here.)

I don't eat cheese so never buy it, but yeah it's expensive. Gas, dairy, eggs.. those are the main staples that hundreds/thousands of locals cross the border into Washington state to buy way cheaper than here. Washington state is BC's Mexico.. drive South for cheap stuff! But I haven't crossed the border since December 2016. (f**k trump, that's why.)

What kind of work can he even do 15h x 7 ? If it's super physical I can't imagine that's very sustainable w/o rest. I've worked up to 98h in a week, but I couldn't do that every week.

Fake news. We went over the numbers in another thread & the area you live in is the very definition of affordable. The average housing cost is 1/3rd of the average income, which is what economists & finance experts define as affordable. Beyond that and housing begins to become unaffordable - but even then, just barely, relative to cities like Vancouver, Hong Kong, Sydney & London.

sly, are you at all interested in potentially resolving your transportation issues with an electric bicycle? I know some people that use & swear by them. It could be a fun forum exercise for us all to do a few mins of research and come up with recommendations for your particular commute, height/body, and budget.

Suppose all the people here complaining about it are all just making it up, or maybe people working min wage can’t keep affording the housing price increases.
So you make $2,000 a month. A apartment in Eugene is like $1,000 a month. Yep seems super affordable.
Our house was 800 few years ago it’s now over 1,000 but atleast it’s a 3 bedroom house while such a house would be around 2,000 in Eugene. For what most people in my area earn housing is getting too expensive.

You don’t live here so you don’t onow what it’s like for the average person. Some middle class making $5000 a month it might be affordable but most people here aren’t middle class and are just barely affording housing.

I’m not getting motorcycle license and paying insurance for a electric bike

I’d like it if you did as directed and don’t reply to my threads as you don’t like me and are just trying to get me banned

he really isnt, sly. he is being civil and helpful, atm.
just the fact, that sometimes the 2 of u dont see eye to eye, doesnt mean everything he does has malignant intent
also, hugs. relax. maybe its an olive branch?)