I don't think I even know what I want anymore

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11 Jul 2019, 8:00 pm

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I dont want to believe that all men want short flings. Even my mom said that all men say theyre looking for long term but arent. But I dont want to believe that.
Hopefully Im not just being naive.


I'm not like this myself, but why not women "playing the field"?
Society has changed a lot in Western societies with them not being subservient.
Relations can develop from casual. errr. relationships too, I believe.
A good way to gain experience and personal growth. <shrug>



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18 Jul 2019, 5:47 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
I dont want to believe that all men want short flings. Even my mom said that all men say theyre looking for long term but arent. But I dont want to believe that.
Hopefully Im not just being naive.


Some men genuinely want LTRs.
Some men don't.
Some men will be honest about what they want.
Some men won't.

:mrgreen:

Also, what Pepe said.


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18 Jul 2019, 7:48 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
I dont want to believe that all men want short flings. Even my mom said that all men say theyre looking for long term but arent. But I dont want to believe that.
Hopefully Im not just being naive.


Some men genuinely want LTRs.
Some men don't.
Some men will be honest about what they want.
Some men won't.

:mrgreen:

Also, what Pepe said.


I think loosening up one's attitude to dating,
(err, poor choice of words),
Would help to lessen the pain and may help with a connection.
Some guys are scared off if the other person gets too serious.



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20 Jul 2019, 2:38 pm

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
I dont want to believe that all men want short flings. Even my mom said that all men say theyre looking for long term but arent. But I dont want to believe that.
Hopefully Im not just being naive.


Some men genuinely want LTRs.
Some men don't.
Some men will be honest about what they want.
Some men won't.

:mrgreen:

Also, what Pepe said.


I think loosening up one's attitude to dating,
(err, poor choice of words),
Would help to lessen the pain and may help with a connection.
Some guys are scared off if the other person gets too serious.


I scared this guy off by saying yes to his suggestion we go on a date and saying hello to him as I walked by him a couple of days later.

:shrug:



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20 Jul 2019, 2:41 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Sarahsmith wrote:
I dont want to believe that all men want short flings. Even my mom said that all men say theyre looking for long term but arent. But I dont want to believe that.
Hopefully Im not just being naive.


Some men genuinely want LTRs.
Some men don't.
Some men will be honest about what they want.
Some men won't.

:mrgreen:

Also, what Pepe said.


I think loosening up one's attitude to dating,
(err, poor choice of words),
Would help to lessen the pain and may help with a connection.
Some guys are scared off if the other person gets too serious.


I scared this guy off by saying yes to his suggestion we go on a date and saying hello to him as I walked by him a couple of days later.

:shrug:


That sounds like his issue, not yours. I'm sorry life handed you that though.


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20 Jul 2019, 3:02 pm

You know what. I got a great big hug from a guy I know today, who actually wanted to stop what he was doing and spend some time talking to me.

So, that made me feel a bit better. Guys can be nice to me. I'm not that bad.



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21 Jul 2019, 5:29 am

hurtloam wrote:
You know what. I got a great big hug from a guy I know today, who actually wanted to stop what he was doing and spend some time talking to me.

So, that made me feel a bit better. Guys can be nice to me. I'm not that bad.


So, are things getting easier for you?
Time is a great healer.
<hugz>



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21 Jul 2019, 1:18 pm

I don't know how to answer that. Some days good, some days bad.



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21 Jul 2019, 7:11 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I don't know how to answer that. Some days good, some days bad.


It will happen.
It just takes time.

When a person is in the middle of emotional turmoil it is hard to see beyond the pain.
"It won't happen overnight,
But it will happen." :wink:
You are obviously getting there. <hug>



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23 Jul 2019, 1:59 am

The confusing thing is finding someone who is genuinely interested romantically.

So I've got male friends who look at me with great warmth and affection, but that's not actually "romantic" interest.

I used to not even be able to find that level of affection, so at least I have good friends now. I can't complain.

It's just so difficult to find more... the kind of more that satisfies both parties., not just me. It's so complicated.

I didn't think it was going to be this difficult when I was younger.



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23 Jul 2019, 7:21 am

What you want could change

There is something wrong with everything

Cost benefit analysis

Romance is overrated



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23 Jul 2019, 7:57 am

hurtloam wrote:
The confusing thing is finding someone who is genuinely interested romantically.

So I've got male friends who look at me with great warmth and affection, but that's not actually "romantic" interest.

I used to not even be able to find that level of affection, so at least I have good friends now. I can't complain.

It's just so difficult to find more... the kind of more that satisfies both parties., not just me. It's so complicated.

I didn't think it was going to be this difficult when I was younger.


I don't know if this helps,
But I'm not a warm and fuzzy person.
Not only don't I have "traditional" friends,
I've never come close to a legitimate romantic significant other.

Life is tough,
It is cruel.
I accept this and have moved on.
Things could be a lot worse.
Not a bad life considering. <shrug>

BTW, Once I'm out of here I'm not coming back. :wink:

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:

Romance is overrated


Agreed.



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12 Aug 2019, 9:30 pm

I've found a coping method

If I start thinking thoughts that just upset me I imagine putting those thoughts into a cardboard box, closing it up and wrapping loads of duct tape around it.

I met up with some friends at the weekend who I haven't seen in a while. People I knew from before I met him. Some of the new friends I've met, are people I've met through him. It was nice to just be in my own world.

I mingled with some single guys at this party. It was nice to be free. Didn't really click with anyone.



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14 Aug 2019, 2:20 am

Love just seems like this horrible, difficult, unobtainable thing that only causes pain.

There's something missing, I'm lonely, but each time I meet someone who might be interested they leave me feeling unhappy, unloved, inadequate...

Why do I keep trying?

I wish I could give up and just accept that I'm never going to be good enough for anyone.



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14 Aug 2019, 4:51 am

hurtloam wrote:
Love just seems like this horrible, difficult, unobtainable thing that only causes pain.

There's something missing, I'm lonely, but each time I meet someone who might be interested they leave me feeling unhappy, unloved, inadequate...

Why do I keep trying?

I wish I could give up and just accept that I'm never going to be good enough for anyone.


Of course you are good enough. You have lots of potential. Put it this way. How many single ladies are out there left which have no children who (All going well) a man can marry and start a family with without the complications of a previous relationship being in the way?

I once for an afternoon took a young lady with a child on a brief date. It didn't work for me as I looked at the child and he didn't look like me, and somehow I couldn't do it? I kept thinking that the child has a dad. Also, she didn't seem to have any control over her child. He was about 5 years old. I felt for them but I couldn't get myself to connect to the circumstance.

Yet, the last lady I dated (I only really dated twice as the single afternoon dates which don't lead any further where I have had about three, I don't count other then a nice afternoon) had a child who was in his late teens. I connected much better with them.



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14 Aug 2019, 6:43 am

Just had a look through my contacts list on my phone and I have 15 single, never married, no kids women over 30 on there.

10 between the ages if 20 and 30.

And I know more... That's just the ones in my phone.

I'm not that rare.

I know 3 single guys over 30... 6 under 30. Been out with 1 of them, no interest from the others, so not a potential pool.