I am Fat and Worthless

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And how is saying "Hey buddy, I'll help you die." actually helping someone? Alot of suicidal people (myself included) are mostly seeking help and want to feel better and NOT die, and I doubt it's much different for this person.

It's just as much of an assumption by saying the opposite. When people say they want to die, how else can one take it (without any more information)?

Actually, it's more of an assumption, logically that is.

But why would you encourage one's death? I don't understand that.

Having an ASD is no excuse for such disgraceful behaviour. You're clearly intelligent enough to understand how your words could be construed as an attack. Autism is no excuse for being needlessly nasty. If you find the OP objectionable, don't reply to her. You're not obliged to read her threads.

To quote and old song that used to be sung to me:

If you can't say anything that's nice,
It's better not to talk at all,
Is my advice.

Edit: And, it seems, you are the only person here "taking it literally", assuming that was what you honestly did. Funny, really, considering that practially everyone in this forum has some sort of ASD.

I think you are just being mean and you very well know it.

Aridarr,

I wasn't being nasty at all. You can go and sift through everything I said too, and read it exactly as it's written; it's only "nasty" when you apply your own thoughts to what I said and presume too much.

Some people with ASDs take things literally, some don't (most will as most cannot "read between the lines"). If someone says they want to die, again, how else can it be taken?

You presume far too much.

886,

Sometimes, death is the easiest way in life; some people have it far too hard, far too much pain, and continuing to live is torture (again, why say you want to die when you don't? It just doesn't make sense).

By the time you posted, you had all the information you needed, so don't blame it on that.

Re-read my posts. I already fully explained that.

It doesn't matter what your intention was. Your words and lack of compassion offended everyone including the OP and I think you owe her an apology. Lack of empathy is a recognized problem observed in some people on the Autistic spectrum, not an admirable trait. Perhaps this can be a lesson in proper conduct...

Hi grel,

Why the f**k are you still spamming this forum for kids?
I have been diagnosed with both Aspergers syndrome and bipolar I disorder.
Do you see me moaning about my problems to random people on internet forums( at least not all the time anyway).
Sure, I feel like killing myself sometimes and ten minutes later I'm laughing at inanity.
I have lows the same as anyone else with bipolar; I deal with it and get on with my life.
Pull yourself together for christsake - do you think your teenage readers on here give a f**k about you?
Just because you are autistic and bipolar doesn't mean that you have to be a miserable depressing person. Are you still going to be here when you are forty?

edit: Obviously I am going to get banned for this post - I'm trying to do you a favour though.
Go out and take care of your horses or something, instead of spouting s**t on the internet about how pathetic you think you are. Believe me, no-one around here could care less.

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When I say I wish to die, at that point in time, things have usually become so intolerable that I do genuinely wish to die but cannot manage to do it.

The next day, things might feel slightly better and the desire is not so strong, until next time the OCD or the eating issues or the bipolar get out of control.

The nature of bipolar is that it causes severe mood swings and it takes little to trigger the manic/angry part.

There are times when you want to die but there is a part that clings on still, even as you are stood there looking at the razor or the broken glass or the pills knowing that after this, there will be no comeback.

I both wish to die at such times, yet also wish for a solution, something to take away the pain and enable me to live in a way that is not so painful.

I wish more than anything to just have a life like those who dont have OCD and who do not have the mental issues constantly going on.

I didnt intend to belittle cancer, my mother had cancer. It was just my way of saying 'I wish I had this awful physical illness as then I will know that my time is near its end but not have to face ending it myself because I seem unable to do so'...and the physical pain would perhaps make me want to enjoy what time I had left, if that makes sense.

Anyone who understands anger and rage and pain should understand that you are not, at that point in time, rational or thinking 'how should I word this so it sounds politically correct?'. Along with the fact I had been drinking and was pretty inebriated and thus the words flowed more freely.

With the appointment forgetting/date problem, could you entrust the date to someone else as well? Just write down the date and time as you're making the appointment, then give a copy of that to the person you're asking. You wouldn't need to tell them why, per se, if you didn't want to, but simply asking someone you know to remind you on that day/the night before that you have an important appointment/meeting/session/whatever word you like on ___ day at ___ time? I know you have a landlord who you've mentioned several times, and a neighbor who you recently interacted with, and I'm sure there'd be people around here who were willing to do it, if you were comfortable with such. It's entirely up to you, of course, but it might help.

I understand with the sleeping thing. Lack of sleep always sucks. I can't really suggest anything for that, other than talking about it at an appointment and hopefully getting some sedatives, but they're really not over the counter things... I know NightQuill knocks some people out, but without a cold, I don't know how advisable it is to take it.



Is there any pattern to that whatsoever? If so, would being around another person help the issues when you're angry, or make that them worse?



There's nothing to be ashamed about; you didn't chose this. In all honesty, I don't think your issues are shallow. Yes, you're concentrating on your body, but it's your mind that is really the problem; you're taking out mental things on your physical self. It's not an issue of attractiveness, no matter how much if might feel like it.

There's a solution to everything in time, but it's probably going to take a bit of work. The professionals would probably tell you the same, unfortunately; there's no magic button that makes it all better (although it'd be really nice if there was). Realistically though, while it'll take some time and effort, it is possible to stop hating yourself so much. It's not necessarily going to be an easy process, but it does work.

There are plenty of others like this. You are not saying anything people have not heard hundreds of times before.
Stop your emo whining. Think about the things in life you like and do them.
Just shut the f**k up with your endless self pitying.
Are you gonna still care what your mum thinks when you are sixty?

AGREED!! !! !

Your view on this shows no sympthy or any thoughts for her family and friends if she died. That is not logical, that is just a nasty view on life.

Your wording to Graelwyn was rather dispassionate and cold, and could have been seen as an incitement to her to carry through with her threats of suicide. It may not have been your intent, but rather your intent was to snap her out of it. However, that is a tactic that could very easily back-fire.

Bzzzzk! You just used my idiotic troll-detection word: Emo. The hallmark of an ill-informed mind.

Why don't you stop whining and get lost? People here clearly do care, and are trying their best to help.

Graelwyn,

Thank you for the clarification. I understand now.

I see it from my side, and when I told the world I wished to die; I shot myself (I survived, naturally), and the second time, luck favoured me.

Graelwyn you still whining?
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