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12 Mar 2021, 11:01 pm

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The PPR thing seems to go in waves. For ages, anyone vaguely left-wing would end up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the liberal". These days, anyone vaguely right-wing ends up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the Nazi". As a left-winger, I should probably be gloating right now, but I really don't feel like it. It annoys me that forum warriors with an axe to grind generally go after a) moderates of the other side and b) moderates of their own side, two classes of people they could reasonably be having a productive conversation with. They don't go after extremists of the other side. Too scary.


Well, the reality is, PPR is dominated by the left these days.
It has been like this for years.
It was supposed to change, and it has to *some* degree, but it still has predominantly left-leaning favouritism.

A 'platform', in principle, should be a place for open, even discussion from either side, but this clearly isn't the case.



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12 Mar 2021, 11:24 pm

one side says "we want equal justice under the law!", the other side says "what are you talking about?" - one side says "you just aren't paying attention to the problems!" to which the other says, "to WHAT problems?!"
-(which they really consider as salient desirable features) - one side says "you just don't care about anybody except yourselves!", and the other side says, "SHADDUP SNOWFLAKE!! MAGA!!" everybody talks past the other, dialogue is hopeless.



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13 Mar 2021, 12:01 pm

There are a lot of the kaftatrap that goes on there, like ''you're snowflakes for thinking we're snowflakes!'' sort of thing. Just everlasting bickering that goes round in circles, and the person with the best vocabulary skills wins. I have very little vocabulary skills so I don't win arguments so easily on here. I find it hard to find the right words, the big words, to get people to understand.

I'm glad I found the word ''kaftatrap'' on another forum elsewhere and looked up what it means because it's much better than breaking it down in boring, simple words.

Using one word that means several words is much easier, but requires vocabulary skills and intelligence. It's a bit like saying ''A, B, C, D....'' rather than just saying ''the alphabet''.


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13 Mar 2021, 12:05 pm

So very tempted to send a threat to someone.

I won't because it's immoral.

But f**k anyone who hates me or thinks I'm broken.

I'm one of the smartest people I know and having an obsessive type brain that isn't too stupid to notice the details is a very good reason why I am that way.

If someone wants to push eugenics for a 'condition' they have themselves, well, unless they're in a genuinely good idea to do it situation, they have the ability to do it.


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13 Mar 2021, 12:08 pm

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This sort of site doesn't work because you're dealing with serious issues & with people who are clueless on psychology.

I would be better off talking to a therapist.

If you can't respect that I have a mental illness, do not berae me for having a mental illness.

And if you're thick enough to think I'm talking about autism here, you're not paying f*****g attention.


You can get a therapist and be on this site. And even other sites.

Even sites about other conditions if it helps you (tho I advise not claiming to have a diagnosis or anything in most cases).

Being on this site for therapeutic purposes is hard because some people here are so proud of how they are that they think everyone always has to put up with it all the time. And they are never willing to change their behavior to make any concessions for anyone else.

Autism/aspergers is not all negative IMO, but it’s also not all positive.

Same with anything.



I agree.

But don't agree that there's anything good about having social anxiety disorder.

I wish I could go back to being independent again. That was ideal.


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13 Mar 2021, 6:15 pm

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There are a lot of the kaftatrap that goes on there, like ''you're snowflakes for thinking we're snowflakes!'' sort of thing. Just everlasting bickering that goes round in circles, and the person with the best vocabulary skills wins. I have very little vocabulary skills so I don't win arguments so easily on here. I find it hard to find the right words, the big words, to get people to understand.

I'm glad I found the word ''kaftatrap'' on another forum elsewhere and looked up what it means because it's much better than breaking it down in boring, simple words.

Using one word that means several words is much easier, but requires vocabulary skills and intelligence. It's a bit like saying ''A, B, C, D....'' rather than just saying ''the alphabet''.


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Kafkatrap (plural Kafkatraps) A sophistical rhetorical device in which any denial by an accused person serves as evidence of guilt. [ from 2010] quotations ▼ Jill said Jack was paranoid, and when he told her he was not she just nodded knowingly. It was a perfect Kafkatrap.


Some people take this seriously. :roll:



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13 Mar 2021, 6:23 pm

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So very tempted to send a threat to someone.

I won't because it's immoral.

But f**k anyone who hates me or thinks I'm broken.

I'm one of the smartest people I know and having an obsessive type brain that isn't too stupid to notice the details is a very good reason why I am that way.

If someone wants to push eugenics for a 'condition' they have themselves, well, unless they're in a genuinely good idea to do it situation, they have the ability to do it.

42 years ago, I knew someone who was convinced that those who were particularly susceptible to hypnotic trance induction, were being genetically culled from the gene pool.
He vowed to have 12 khildren to 'stick a carrot up their collective bums'. 8)



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14 Mar 2021, 2:55 am

Are there eugenics proposals? That would have been a very serious thing.


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14 Mar 2021, 3:15 am

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Are there eugenics proposals? That would have been a very serious thing.


Not officially, no.
But then, people being gang-stalked by their governments happens but isn't advertises either.

There are 'Black Operations' by governments that experiment on their citizens.
A couple of the better-known ones are The American MK Ultra mind-control experimentations and the American syphilis infections on the Black Community.

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Project MKUltra (or MK-Ultra), also called the CIA mind control program, is the code name given to a program of experiments on human subjects that were designed and undertaken by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, some of which were illegal.[1][2][3] Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations in order to weaken the individual and force confessions through mind control. The project was organized through the Office of Scientific Intelligence of the CIA and coordinated with the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories.[4] Other code names for drug-related experiments were Project Bluebird and Project Artichoke.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

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The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male[1][2][3] (informally referred to as the "Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment," the "Tuskegee Syphilis Study," the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the African American Male," the "U.S. Public Health Service Syphilis Study at Tuskegee," or the "Tuskegee Experiment") was an ethically unjustified study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).[4][5] The purpose of this study was to observe the natural history of untreated syphilis. Although the African-American men who participated in the study were told that they were receiving free health care from the federal government of the United States, they were not.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study



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14 Mar 2021, 5:37 am

Pepe wrote:
PhosphorusDecree wrote:
The PPR thing seems to go in waves. For ages, anyone vaguely left-wing would end up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the liberal". These days, anyone vaguely right-wing ends up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the Nazi". As a left-winger, I should probably be gloating right now, but I really don't feel like it. It annoys me that forum warriors with an axe to grind generally go after a) moderates of the other side and b) moderates of their own side, two classes of people they could reasonably be having a productive conversation with. They don't go after extremists of the other side. Too scary.


Well, the reality is, PPR is dominated by the left these days.
It has been like this for years.
It was supposed to change, and it has to *some* degree, but it still has predominantly left-leaning favouritism.

A 'platform', in principle, should be a place for open, even discussion from either side, but this clearly isn't the case.


It certainly wasn't dominated by the left 2 years ago. Wall-to-wall alt-right flamebait, with all the flamer's little mates waiting in line to kick the crap out of anyone who took the bait. A lot of those people seem to have either toned it down or moved elsewhere since then.


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14 Mar 2021, 9:32 am

PhosphorusDecree wrote:
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PhosphorusDecree wrote:
The PPR thing seems to go in waves. For ages, anyone vaguely left-wing would end up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the liberal". These days, anyone vaguely right-wing ends up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the Nazi". As a left-winger, I should probably be gloating right now, but I really don't feel like it. It annoys me that forum warriors with an axe to grind generally go after a) moderates of the other side and b) moderates of their own side, two classes of people they could reasonably be having a productive conversation with. They don't go after extremists of the other side. Too scary.


Well, the reality is, PPR is dominated by the left these days.
It has been like this for years.
It was supposed to change, and it has to *some* degree, but it still has predominantly left-leaning favouritism.

A 'platform', in principle, should be a place for open, even discussion from either side, but this clearly isn't the case.


It certainly wasn't dominated by the left 2 years ago. Wall-to-wall alt-right flamebait, with all the flamer's little mates waiting in line to kick the crap out of anyone who took the bait. A lot of those people seem to have either toned it down or moved elsewhere since then.


Incorrect. 8)



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14 Mar 2021, 10:09 am

Pepe wrote:
PhosphorusDecree wrote:
Pepe wrote:
PhosphorusDecree wrote:
The PPR thing seems to go in waves. For ages, anyone vaguely left-wing would end up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the liberal". These days, anyone vaguely right-wing ends up as the pinata in a non-stop game of "Stomp the Nazi". As a left-winger, I should probably be gloating right now, but I really don't feel like it. It annoys me that forum warriors with an axe to grind generally go after a) moderates of the other side and b) moderates of their own side, two classes of people they could reasonably be having a productive conversation with. They don't go after extremists of the other side. Too scary.


Well, the reality is, PPR is dominated by the left these days.
It has been like this for years.
It was supposed to change, and it has to *some* degree, but it still has predominantly left-leaning favouritism.

A 'platform', in principle, should be a place for open, even discussion from either side, but this clearly isn't the case.


It certainly wasn't dominated by the left 2 years ago. Wall-to-wall alt-right flamebait, with all the flamer's little mates waiting in line to kick the crap out of anyone who took the bait. A lot of those people seem to have either toned it down or moved elsewhere since then.


Incorrect. 8)


I know what I experienced. You disagree. Possessing as I do a rudimentary sense of irony, I'll leave it there.


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14 Mar 2021, 8:15 pm

why do some people have to make my job as a bus driver so difficult when not need be
some passengers refuse to wear a mask for no reason except to be obtuse
then they call me names today i got called covid w*ker but im just doing my job and we are told that we must make all passengers wear a face covering unless excempt
why do some people like creating a scene ? :roll:

were people like this when shoes were first invented?
like im not used to these new rules about wearing shoes so im gonna rebel and throw a tantrum ?


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14 Mar 2021, 8:17 pm

"against stupidity, even the gods themselves contend in vain." [Nietzsche]



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16 Mar 2021, 2:19 pm

I can't help but feel like I get on everyone's nerves. :(


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16 Mar 2021, 8:19 pm

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I can't help but feel like I get on everyone's nerves. :(

no worse than me, bro :bounce: :bounce: