The guy who decides the definition of "empathy"...
So, empathy-defining guy, what is empathy?
Empathy, my friend, is the ability to understand other people, put yourself in their shoes and be mindful about their feelings even if they're different from your's.
Oh, I see, how many neurotypicals are actually capable of this?
They all are, it's a neurotypical trait. If you're autistic, you lack this ability.
Right, OK, well I'm autistic but I can feel other people's emotions and understand their emotional states.
What are you, stupid? That's not empathy, that's compassion!
Then what is empathy?
Feeling other people's emotions and understanding their emotional states. I've just told you.
Right, well in my experience it seems that people lack this ability to understand me as an autistic.
That doesn't mean they lack empathy, stupid! A neurotypical can naturally feel empathy for all walks of life except for autistic people, because you're just too different for them to understand, which makes it OK for them to not understand you.
Well I don't think I'm that different, I mean I'm still just as human as they are and I have thoughts and feelings too.
Yes, but you have thoughts and feelings for the wrong things. You can't expect neurotypicals to empathise with that. Oh, but you must empathise with neurotypicals, otherwise you'll be lacking empathy.
Right, well what about people that aren't neurotypical nor autistic?
You must empathise with them too.
No I meant can neurotypicals empathise with non-autistic people with other neurodevelopmental disorders that have challenges most neurotypicals don't?
You're complicating things, you imbecile! You can't put different neurodiversities into different groups, otherwise things will just get confusing. So to simplify things, you must just split autistics and non-autistics up, and all the people without an ASD are neurotypical even if they're not typically wired. Ha!
But what if a person on the high-functioning end of the spectrum is married and in a steady job and is able to take care of themselves, and a non-autistic person has severe intellectual disabilities and will never be able to work or marry and will need 24 care all their lives? Is the latter still neurotypical?
Yes, precisely! They may not be able to ever talk but they are more able than an autistic person to read body language, so that makes them neurotypical. You can't read body language for s**t, so that makes you neuroatypical.
Well actually I don't find reading body language unnatural or challenging, I think a person with severe intellectual disabilities is more socially vulnerable than I ever will be.
Wrong! Are you high? You can't be autistic yet be more socially aware than a neurotypical with severe intellectual disabilities! That's like putting the cart before the horse, you idiot!
What?
Ah, now you not understanding what I'm telling you is classic evidence that you lack empathy.
What???
This is basically how debates often end up when empathy gets brought up on WP.
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