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I understand what you are saying Saja... But aren't words and actions two different things? It's not like Mosto has commited a crime...
Thoughts aren't crimes?

Either way... He needs help... And he says he will never improve because he cant talk about his issues, so where does that leave him?

My goodness. I keep thinking people are like me. I guess I'd better stop. My appointment is in 16 hours 20 minutes. I only just got up so I will be shattered. My mum, who is driving me, just said "Don't sit there and rock back and forth and go boo hoo". And this coming from someone who has read numerous books about Aspergers. I'll be surprised if the car makes it there.

See. This is why. Bye bye.

Mosto...

Sorry your Mum does not understand Aspergers, that must be difficult for you.

Perhaps just tell the psych what you feel comfortable telling him/her... Anything you can express or let go will be of benefit.

Just see how you go hey?


I wish you luck, let us know how you go.

My mum is an expert on Aspergers, she has read numerous books. But she still says it anyway

How did your psychologist appointment go today, Mosto?

mostie most parents are at least a little abusive. we all suffer

tell your psych whatever u want - she is there for you. but, if you also wanna let the psych help you help youself, and she has techniques that help, granted you are cooperative. but it's your choice. you can just stare at the psych's boobs the whole time *joke*

You're actually not far off the mark. She was very enthusiastic, younger than she sounds, asks the usual questions, I was anxious, asks what "plan" I have made from suicide thoughts, and I said I wouldn't say. I felt like saying "if you ask a patient that and they say 'I'm going to slit my wrists tonight' then of course they don't want to do it" So basically the first half of the appointment I was saying all the things about my life I hate. She said, we are going to to CBT, I said I did that by correspondance and it tries to make you say things you don't believe. But she was enthusiastic about it, and I didn't interrupt her spiel, I thought I might as well do it before criticising it, nothing better to do with my money

I'm glad your appointment went well, Mosto. I think it's great that you're prepared to give CBT another try. You're sounding a bit more optimistic tonight, I think.

Good on you Mosto I can sense that you did benefit from seeing her!

When is your next appt?

Next appointment is next week, my homework for this week is to write down all my negative thoughts. Then next week she is going to show me how all these thoughts are wrong. Of course ones which I don't genuinely think are wrong I'm not going to include. Well maybe, worst thing that can happen is she won't see me again. Which is ok

You are on the right track Mosto

Nothing ventured nothing gained!

So all my thoughts which cause depression I must say a different statement to. That's what CBT is all about. Of course it's very subjective whether the thought you want to get rid of is actually true or not, basically if the psychologist thinks it will cause depression, then it's bad. Accordingly I haven't mentioned this aberration to her.

I suppose it IS subjective, but I can see the point- constant negative self-talk is likely to make you feel more depressed, so replacing that with positive statements should have the opposite effect.

As for your "aberration" (and I don't know exactly what it is), I guess if thinking about it doesn't actually depress you then you don't have to mention it at the moment. From the sound of it, though, you'll need to talk about it with her sometime because I suspect if you act on it, it will get you into a lot of trouble.

Sorry I meant the aberration was that I should say thoughts to myself if they are not likely to make me depressed regardless of whether they are true or not. But I'm warming to that idea. What things that I can't tell anyone, I made some shocking statements it doesn't go that far, I not sure if I want to get better. Not able to find any friends online that understand. One friend on PSN but now he is banned. Other things that I say, but if that was to ear and it wasn't recorded so no proof I ever said it. I guess cowards die every day. I dó have an opportunity to have a normal life. Relationships are more important than the news. Now my subconscious does not fall for impostors.

Hi again, Mosto. I suppose that when you're depressed it's hard to know whether thoughts ARE true or not- you tend to be unrealistically negative about a lot of things. It might be safer to stick with positive thoughts, even if you don't really think they're true- I can see how that might be a bit of a challenge, though.

It might also be helpful to other people here if you try to offer positive thoughts in response to their postings about depression or suicide- it may encourage them to change their ways of thinking, too.

I don't understand what you mean about relationships being more important than the news or your subconscious not falling for impostors.

Jenny