Why does no one want me to have a relationship?

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20 Feb 2019, 7:04 pm

I've gotten to where I don't even try anymore. I am just so burned out and overwhelmed with what socialization requires to be successful that I am simply just drifting through this life now.



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20 Feb 2019, 9:39 pm

if you are anything like me, you will find the water is fine in there [hermithood]. :alien:



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20 Feb 2019, 10:04 pm

Nobody can stop you from dating someone.


If two consenting adults go on a date, nobody can stop them

But everyone can refuse to date you


If someone wants you to have a date, they are not helping you. Not unless they play matchmaker


If someone does not want you to have a date, they are not hurting you


Half of marriage end in divorce


If you want to ask someone on a date, nobody can stop you


But "life" goes on, single or married



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20 Feb 2019, 11:59 pm

I LOve the way he breaks things down logically n rAtionally (makes sense as mentioned he studied engineering)

I cannot think like that naturally
N especially not when overwhelmed by angst, or any emotions

Logic n rational detachment is really a big help
when dealing with such lifelong worries as Marknis described


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24 Feb 2019, 3:58 am

But how can I go through the day without feeling depressed about my situation? Whenever I see a couple pass me by or the day is ending and I am still alone, my mind just keeps feeling like my situation will never change.



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24 Feb 2019, 4:35 am

We can’t. We just go one day at a time.



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25 Feb 2019, 12:10 am

I already see the year ending with me still being single and dreading about my death coming for me.



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25 Feb 2019, 12:17 am

far worse things exist than being single and alone.



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25 Feb 2019, 5:42 am

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But how can I go through the day without feeling depressed about my situation? Whenever I see a couple pass me by or the day is ending and I am still alone, my mind just keeps feeling like my situation will never change.


With that attitude, it probably won't. It's alright to feel depressed, mainly because people can't just stop being depressed even though they know that won't do anyone any good, but being depressed doesn't automatically stop you from putting in some effort. Tell me Markins, when's the last time you actually tried to do something to make more friends or get a girlfriend? Or to make your life better in some other way? Just repeating same things every day are highly unlikely to get you a girlfriend. Also, you shouldn't go and say "that doesn't work" and drop that option after trying it once. If you try some tricks for years and get no results, then it's perfectly reasonable to drop it, but trying something once or twice and then dropping it for not getting results right away is childish. I recall you've said that you're not so sure about going to anime conventions anymore because you haven't really made friends, but the thing is that friendships take time. Besides, from my experience, people in those circles start recognizing you and remembering you after they've seen you in a con a few times and are more likely to talk to you then and you'll get closer with time. Hear that? Time.

I think that might be a big part of your problem: you're too impatient. You want results right away and give up when you don't get them. From what I've understood it happened to you with playing guitar, getting better at drawing and you seem to be obsessed with getting a girlfriend without the "let's be friends" -phase first. That's just not good; while some people do sync immediately and start a relationship within a few weeks of meeting each other, that doesn't work with everyone. Be calm and take your time in making female friends, get to know them and let them get to know you before trying to get in to a romantical relationship with them. Or if this feels too slow and you know you're too impatient, go to places where you'll definitely meet single women looking for relationships, like some kind of speed dates and other dating events (I don't know a lot about those, but I'm sure if you google around a little or ask from the L&D section someone will know how to help you.) And remember, even if you don't get results the first time, it doesn't mean you won't get any the second time. And you will definitely get practice at talking to the opposite sex if you go.



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25 Feb 2019, 9:27 am

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Marknis wrote:
But how can I go through the day without feeling depressed about my situation? Whenever I see a couple pass me by or the day is ending and I am still alone, my mind just keeps feeling like my situation will never change.


With that attitude, it probably won't. It's alright to feel depressed, mainly because people can't just stop being depressed even though they know that won't do anyone any good, but being depressed doesn't automatically stop you from putting in some effort. Tell me Markins, when's the last time you actually tried to do something to make more friends or get a girlfriend? Or to make your life better in some other way? Just repeating same things every day are highly unlikely to get you a girlfriend. Also, you shouldn't go and say "that doesn't work" and drop that option after trying it once. If you try some tricks for years and get no results, then it's perfectly reasonable to drop it, but trying something once or twice and then dropping it for not getting results right away is childish. I recall you've said that you're not so sure about going to anime conventions anymore because you haven't really made friends, but the thing is that friendships take time. Besides, from my experience, people in those circles start recognizing you and remembering you after they've seen you in a con a few times and are more likely to talk to you then and you'll get closer with time. Hear that? Time.

I think that might be a big part of your problem: you're too impatient. You want results right away and give up when you don't get them. From what I've understood it happened to you with playing guitar, getting better at drawing and you seem to be obsessed with getting a girlfriend without the "let's be friends" -phase first. That's just not good; while some people do sync immediately and start a relationship within a few weeks of meeting each other, that doesn't work with everyone. Be calm and take your time in making female friends, get to know them and let them get to know you before trying to get in to a romantical relationship with them. Or if this feels too slow and you know you're too impatient, go to places where you'll definitely meet single women looking for relationships, like some kind of speed dates and other dating events (I don't know a lot about those, but I'm sure if you google around a little or ask from the L&D section someone will know how to help you.) And remember, even if you don't get results the first time, it doesn't mean you won't get any the second time. And you will definitely get practice at talking to the opposite sex if you go.


I've been a member of a Meet Up group for years (2016 to this year) and it was a month ago the last time I did anything with them. I keep getting pushed to the background at their events no matter the effort I put in to interact and it's burned me out so much I haven't wanted to go back since.

I've actually still kept my guitar despite my struggles with it and I still take lessons but I just can't do certain guitar techniques nor can I get songs that are more than a handful of chords under my fingers and when I try making my own songs, I have a creative block in my mind that makes the process frustrating. That translates to drawing as well. As far as the "Let's be friends"-phase, I've gotten conflicting views on this. Some say you need to make it clear you want a relationship right away or you will come off as looking uninterested in romance while others say women are scared of strangers and both sides are very vocal so I am confused to the point it overwhelms me. I've also encountered women who say their boyfriends won't let them have male friends and part of the reason why my friendship with an ex-friend fell apart is because that happened to her. This discourages me even further to the point I sometimes feel like I should just give up completely.
A lot of women in my area also don't share a lot of common interests with me and they're already in a relationship or even have a family so my opportunities feel nonexistent.

I've done speed dating and the events were unproductive. They were also highly stressful because they took place in a dance club and the amount of time you have to talk to someone is anxiety riddening. The general view of them in L&D is unfavorable.



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25 Feb 2019, 12:57 pm

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I've been a member of a Meet Up group for years (2016 to this year) and it was a month ago the last time I did anything with them. I keep getting pushed to the background at their events no matter the effort I put in to interact and it's burned me out so much I haven't wanted to go back since.

I've actually still kept my guitar despite my struggles with it and I still take lessons but I just can't do certain guitar techniques nor can I get songs that are more than a handful of chords under my fingers and when I try making my own songs, I have a creative block in my mind that makes the process frustrating. That translates to drawing as well. As far as the "Let's be friends"-phase, I've gotten conflicting views on this. Some say you need to make it clear you want a relationship right away or you will come off as looking uninterested in romance while others say women are scared of strangers and both sides are very vocal so I am confused to the point it overwhelms me. I've also encountered women who say their boyfriends won't let them have male friends and part of the reason why my friendship with an ex-friend fell apart is because that happened to her. This discourages me even further to the point I sometimes feel like I should just give up completely.
A lot of women in my area also don't share a lot of common interests with me and they're already in a relationship or even have a family so my opportunities feel nonexistent.

I've done speed dating and the events were unproductive. They were also highly stressful because they took place in a dance club and the amount of time you have to talk to someone is anxiety riddening. The general view of them in L&D is unfavorable.


Is that the only meet up group in your area though? If not then have you considered to switching to another one? Or tried to get someone from the group to meet up with you one on one over coffee or something?

Well of course, this depends on the person. I'd say it's common sense for women (and men, but especially women) to be wary of strangers for safety reasons. Some want to be friends first, some have no interest in making friends of the opposite gender and others don't even think about it and just do what their instincts tell them. You just have to get to know the women as individuals instead of thinking "women are like this", "women are like that." There's no such a thing as an advice that would work with every woman.
Ah well, a woman who won't make friends with men because her boyfriend says it's not okay is... well, there's not everything okay with her, and definitely not with her relationship, either. And her boyfriend is a jerk who should grow up before dating.
Do they have to be from your area, though? You could try making friends on the internet or go further away to events and try to start a long distance relationship. Should be worth trying considering how desperate you are.

Well if speeddates are too stressful for you then just saying "just try again" probably doesn't work, unless you try to find them in less stressing enviroment. I've been to a speeddate once in an anime convention and that wasn't really all that stressing (I felt like I was blushing like a moron while talking to the first guy but that's not the point.) I've also heard that people sometimes have those in cafes, too. Should be less stressing than in a bar, right?



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25 Feb 2019, 2:28 pm

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I've been a member of a Meet Up group for years (2016 to this year) and it was a month ago the last time I did anything with them. I keep getting pushed to the background at their events no matter the effort I put in to interact and it's burned me out so much I haven't wanted to go back since.

I've actually still kept my guitar despite my struggles with it and I still take lessons but I just can't do certain guitar techniques nor can I get songs that are more than a handful of chords under my fingers and when I try making my own songs, I have a creative block in my mind that makes the process frustrating. That translates to drawing as well. As far as the "Let's be friends"-phase, I've gotten conflicting views on this. Some say you need to make it clear you want a relationship right away or you will come off as looking uninterested in romance while others say women are scared of strangers and both sides are very vocal so I am confused to the point it overwhelms me. I've also encountered women who say their boyfriends won't let them have male friends and part of the reason why my friendship with an ex-friend fell apart is because that happened to her. This discourages me even further to the point I sometimes feel like I should just give up completely.
A lot of women in my area also don't share a lot of common interests with me and they're already in a relationship or even have a family so my opportunities feel nonexistent.

I've done speed dating and the events were unproductive. They were also highly stressful because they took place in a dance club and the amount of time you have to talk to someone is anxiety riddening. The general view of them in L&D is unfavorable.


Is that the only meet up group in your area though? If not then have you considered to switching to another one? Or tried to get someone from the group to meet up with you one on one over coffee or something?

Well of course, this depends on the person. I'd say it's common sense for women (and men, but especially women) to be wary of strangers for safety reasons. Some want to be friends first, some have no interest in making friends of the opposite gender and others don't even think about it and just do what their instincts tell them. You just have to get to know the women as individuals instead of thinking "women are like this", "women are like that." There's no such a thing as an advice that would work with every woman.
Ah well, a woman who won't make friends with men because her boyfriend says it's not okay is... well, there's not everything okay with her, and definitely not with her relationship, either. And her boyfriend is a jerk who should grow up before dating.
Do they have to be from your area, though? You could try making friends on the internet or go further away to events and try to start a long distance relationship. Should be worth trying considering how desperate you are.

Well if speeddates are too stressful for you then just saying "just try again" probably doesn't work, unless you try to find them in less stressing enviroment. I've been to a speeddate once in an anime convention and that wasn't really all that stressing (I felt like I was blushing like a moron while talking to the first guy but that's not the point.) I've also heard that people sometimes have those in cafes, too. Should be less stressing than in a bar, right?


Before the Meet Up group started, there was another that had similar functions but it quickly became just one for tabletop and card games. I went to it a few times but the people weren't very welcoming or friendly so I stopped going. They are still around but I don't bother with them. The Meet Up group I am in is the only one similar to that one in the area.
There's only one person in the group I have interacted outside the group and he actually asks me about my dating life. I tried to meet up with one of the girls but she never messaged me back and she's practically disappeared now.

I have had internet friends before but meeting them in person never worked out. My parents were paranoid and I didn't have my own vehicle or enough money to leave the area. I've tried to make friends through Meet Me but I was either ghosted or had people dragging their feet to the point I got exasperated.

I once saw a Geek/Nerd Speed Dating event at a Comic-Con but I didn't get to participate in it. I also didn't get to stay at the con for very long because I had work that day and my mother as well as her ex-husband wouldn't let me go far from their sight.



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26 Feb 2019, 10:59 am

To elaborate on the last statement, the only reason my mother and her ex-husband were at the Comic-Con is because her ex-husband's daughter was in styling school and she was hired to style the celebrities and special guests at the con.



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26 Feb 2019, 11:05 am

I don't recommend "speed dating." I don't like the concept of it.



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26 Feb 2019, 11:07 am

It was very draining when I tried it and it wasn't free. Then again, it was at a dance club.



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26 Feb 2019, 11:10 am

it's not worth it.....it's a bunch of bullcrap.