08 May 2023, 9:07 am
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08 May 2023, 9:14 am
Twilightprincess wrote:
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Being drunk is not a valid excuse...for anything. If I behaved that way when I was drunk, I wouldn't drink in public, not that I do anyway.
Maybe you should ask yourself why you are being so defensive about this stuff. It seems like you enjoy engaging in creepy behavior and are looking for excuses so you don't have to change it. I would think about that if I were you.
Maybe you should ask yourself why you are being so defensive about this stuff. It seems like you enjoy engaging in creepy behavior and are looking for excuses so you don't have to change it. I would think about that if I were you.
Do you think it’s creepy then if a girl goes up to sit on some guys lap?
I've never observed such behavior, but I suppose it would be creepy if they weren't in some sort of relationship.
A guy harassing a woman could be perceived as more threatening due to the frequent difference in strength and size and the much greater risk of sexual assault committed by men against women.
If you want me to be brutally honest I was in a brief relationship with a 68 year old woman a year ago. I was in her apartment and I asked her to sit on my lap and she said to me “That’s weird” and also “I am to heavy and there’s not really much of you”
Your not going to report me to the police for sexual harassment after saying this are you
In all fairness I have taken your feedback as constructive criticsm.
08 May 2023, 9:19 am
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08 May 2023, 9:22 am
08 May 2023, 9:25 am
What privilege? 
I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.
I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
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08 May 2023, 9:28 am
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08 May 2023, 9:29 am
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What privilege? I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.
I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
I have take a note on my iPad from your comments and will be using it for constructive criticsm.
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08 May 2023, 9:30 am
08 May 2023, 9:32 am
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08 May 2023, 9:36 am
08 May 2023, 9:36 am
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What privilege? I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.
I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
The posts I've seen today smack of privilege. Posts like your greatly distort reality and make incidents like one of my classmates being assaulted by a woman because he had the misfortune of being parked in the same parking lot as her a reality. Dude wasn't even creepy, he just happened to have a car in the same lot, and he almost got a face full of pepper spray.
Whether you care to admit it or not, you're in no danger of ever being labeled as creepy no matter how creepy the stuff you do is, and it's really harmful of you to try and rationalize it. It's also a reality that men are at a much higher rate of being randomly assaulted than women are, and we don't even know how often women sexually assault men with any sort of reliability, because it's hardly ever reported.
I had hoped that this thread wouldn't devolve into a men v., women one, but here we are. Personally, I'm out because I've got my own business to attend to. But I would hope that you'd engage in a bit of introspection because there's just so much distortion in what you're posting that you're just making it less likely that jamesy will learn anything from this other than to just stay away from the crazy women.
08 May 2023, 9:37 am
08 May 2023, 9:41 am
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
What privilege? I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.
I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
I would never dream of engaging in inappropriate behavior like that.I don't consider people on the spectrum as one of my own. If individuals are still making excuses for their behavior (being drunk or saying that it's in their nature), then I think they may be less apt to change it. We've had this same conversation with Jamesy many times over the years, so I am skeptical that things will actually change this time around since they didn't any of the other times.
The posts I've seen today smack of privilege. Posts like your greatly distort reality and make incidents like one of my classmates being assaulted by a woman because he had the misfortune of being parked in the same parking lot as her a reality. Dude wasn't even creepy, he just happened to have a car in the same lot, and he almost got a face full of pepper spray.
Whether you care to admit it or not, you're in no danger of ever being labeled as creepy no matter how creepy the stuff you do is, and it's really harmful of you to try and rationalize it.
Women can engage in creepy behavior, too. I never said that they couldn't.
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08 May 2023, 9:41 am
08 May 2023, 9:43 am
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. It's also a reality that men are at a much higher rate of being randomly assaulted than women are, and we don't even know how often women sexually assault men with any sort of reliability, because it's hardly ever reported.
WTF
Bananas are more likely to be assaulted than men are, and we don't even know how often bananas are sexually assaulted with any sort of reliability, because bananas hardly ever report it.
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08 May 2023, 9:51 am
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
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I did not like creepy behavior when I was in college...at all. It made me uncomfortable.
No one should have to tolerate it and no one should try to get away with it.
No one should have to tolerate it and no one should try to get away with it.
Check your privilege, please. The kinds of behaviors that have been outlined are ones that need to be addressed, and jamesy appear willing to do so. But, I am deeply skeptical that you would be having the same opinion if the same lack of standard was applied to you. I doubt my personal experience is truly reflective of the world at large, I'm just glad that random women have stopped groping and treating me like a sex object. But, I doubt very much that I ever would have been able to get away with calling any of them creepy, even though some of it was criminal in nature by the standards of the area I live in.
Being autistic is hard enough without tearing our own down. He has acknowledged that the behavior was problematic and appears willing to work on it. I don't really get what the point of further tearing him down is. Now, if he was fighting for his right to still do that stuff, then we'd have a different discussion entirely.
What privilege? Is it a privilege to not face sexual harassment in public?
