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Seanmw
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09 Sep 2009, 5:51 am

okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever.

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


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09 Sep 2009, 5:59 am

I think it's a very good idea Seanmw.
If you can stand it, not jealous and all, it's a very good idea.

And also if you're able not playing little mind games with her and mess her life (even it's not your intention).

It could be great for the both of you.



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09 Sep 2009, 6:01 am

UH huh, what ^ said.


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09 Sep 2009, 7:21 am

Seanmw wrote:

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


I think this is a very real problem, Seanmw. Being 19 is out of her league, legally. If there is even the slightest rockyness between you, you will be in the wrong just because of your age. You are not the first man to admire a girl/woman but you might want to resist just for your own welfare, if you aren't thinking of hers, first.


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09 Sep 2009, 10:25 am

being a stoner i can tell you that cops will find out the darndest things :D

dont take the risk, and explain it to her. shes young, and in 2 years minds can change, and things can happen.
i'd say tell her to wait, let her fly off, and you consider it a "nice breakup".

if your lucky she comes back to you when shes legal, but dont cling on to it.

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09 Sep 2009, 11:59 am

Not being funny here, but there's the very real possibility that it's not so much you as what you represent to her.... adulthood, being taken seriously, freedom, etc. Idol Worship. 8)

So as the mature adult, I think you need to steer clear, kindly and gently, and not be suckered in by being idolized. It's a wonderful feeling, but it's based on no kind of reality at all. And when reality does set in...

it's statutory rape.

:(

She is still a ward of her parents... and even if she "loves" you, they probably won't and will call the heavens down on your poor little pointy head. :x

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09 Sep 2009, 1:19 pm

I don't know you or this 14-year-old girl, but legal issues aside, you may come to realize that your outlook on life may be quite different from hers, simply because of the age difference. You probably have a lot more life experience than she does, and you may have a much more mature perspective of things than she will. This will significantly affect your wants and needs, compared to what she might need in her life right now. Rather than the two of you being more or less equals, the relationship may become a bit more like a "big brother-little sister" thing, or if the maturity level is very disparate, "father-daughter", and the more disparate, the more stress there will be in the relationship if you try to pursue something beyond platonic. There will be times when you may tire of her relative immaturity and will want to push her to grow up faster, but it wouldn't be her fault at 14 to be like that. It'll be healthiest for her to continue growing up at her own pace, and when the two of you are more on equal footing a few years down the road, then it'll be a lot easier to manage the relationship, and the more likely it will last.


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09 Sep 2009, 4:50 pm

Seanmw wrote:
okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever.

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time

If you're thinking sex, move to sweden, it's 15, not 18 here. ;)
If you think anything but sex (or similar), go for it. You can always break up if it's not working.


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10 Sep 2009, 12:16 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Seanmw wrote:

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time


I think this is a very real problem, Seanmw. Being 19 is out of her league, legally. If there is even the slightest rockyness between you, you will be in the wrong just because of your age. You are not the first man to admire a girl/woman but you might want to resist just for your own welfare, if you aren't thinking of hers, first.
yeah, i know. i'm not pressuring her or anything. but we're mutually agreed that we like each other and find each other mutually attractive.

and i care enough about her welfare and mine both. that's why i proposed to her that if we were both single by the time she was legal we should go out maybe. and she agreed. if feelings change in that time, i'm fine with it. as long as she's happy. and i have a philosophical saying of my own for myself, "hope for everything and expect nothing". so i'm not going to be too disappointed if it doesn't work out, but i'm really hoping it does :) .
so til she's legal we're just going to be friends and do our own thing.


i'm trying to clarify this now.
because in my other thread for lack of people clearly understanding my intentions off the get-go. things snowballed and it was disasterous :roll:
i suppose i should've phrased it better.

i ended up with little supportive advice, but mountainloads of cynicism.
they see i'm 19 and think i'm some sorta naive fool who doesn't know state age of consent laws.
or say that she's a child (when kids are maturing faster these days anyway, chalk it up to hormones in the food, evolution of culture, or the higher quality of education they're giving in schools these days, etc. but that's besides the point) when i've clearly stated i can see the age problem and am planning to date her when she's older. but no, the cynics dissent.
on a side note: actually though, i've found her refreshingly mature for her age. and i feel genuine respect for her as a person.


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10 Sep 2009, 12:24 am

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I don't know you or this 14-year-old girl, but legal issues aside, you may come to realize that your outlook on life may be quite different from hers, simply because of the age difference. You probably have a lot more life experience than she does, and you may have a much more mature perspective of things than she will. This will significantly affect your wants and needs, compared to what she might need in her life right now. Rather than the two of you being more or less equals, the relationship may become a bit more like a "big brother-little sister" thing, or if the maturity level is very disparate, "father-daughter", and the more disparate, the more stress there will be in the relationship if you try to pursue something beyond platonic. There will be times when you may tire of her relative immaturity and will want to push her to grow up faster, but it wouldn't be her fault at 14 to be like that. It'll be healthiest for her to continue growing up at her own pace, and when the two of you are more on equal footing a few years down the road, then it'll be a lot easier to manage the relationship, and the more likely it will last.
exactly, "a few years down the road" is my current intention. and hopefully it works out. wish me luck?


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10 Sep 2009, 12:29 am

Silvervarg wrote:
Seanmw wrote:
okay so i met this really nice girl on myspace. at first we were just chatting and such alot. both bored, killing time. her profile said she was single and not looking. there were playful innuendos occasionally, but nothing serious. we became pretty good friends. i was supposed to meet her in person for the first time at the county fair, but she couldn't come over and say hello because she was a part of the 4-H Horses and i guess it would've looked weird to her family. she got a boyfriend recently, 2 days later off some advice i gave apprently, she dumped him. i guess he had trust issues. didn't know i had that much influence in her decisions, surprised me . she now has a quote by me from that day on her myspace page. and seems to have feelings for me. i was sorta surprised to realize i had such feelings myself. and we've been talking about it since and getting along better than ever.

one problem with this whole scenario though:
she's 14
i'm 19
i think really like her though

thinking maybe should tell her i want to give this a few years
and just be friends til then and see where we go once she's actually legal
and i can go out with her publically without fearing jail-time

If you're thinking sex, move to sweden, it's 15, not 18 here. ;)
If you think anything but sex (or similar), go for it. You can always break up if it's not working.
well, actually i don't even need it to be that sexual. that would just be an added bonus. essentially i just want to be appreciated and liked for who i am. and i do love physical contact though. i'm wondering if hugs and cuddling are illegal for me too :p

but on a side note: Sweden sounds awesome 8O :!:

if i were to considering moving there though i'd first have soem questions about the economic condition and whether english is used much there because it's just about all i know except some spanish haha


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10 Sep 2009, 12:30 am

Of course. Good luck for the both of you in life.



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10 Sep 2009, 12:40 am

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being a stoner i can tell you that cops will find out the darndest things :D

dont take the risk, and explain it to her. shes young, and in 2 years minds can change, and things can happen.
i'd say tell her to wait, let her fly off, and you consider it a "nice breakup".

if your lucky she comes back to you when shes legal, but dont cling on to it.

/5 cents.
lol :lol:

oh, i am letting her fly off. still keeping in touch though via myspace.
but just friendly stuff. talk about each other's day, problems, jokes, deeper stuff and personal opinions, and maybe a small innuendo thrown in occasionally for fun, etc. lol :)

but i made it clear to her that i don't expect her to stay single and wait on me in the meantime. she can do whatever she wants.
but if she's single by the time she legal, we've both agreed we wanna date.
objections?


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10 Sep 2009, 12:47 am

Seanmw wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
being a stoner i can tell you that cops will find out the darndest things :D

dont take the risk, and explain it to her. shes young, and in 2 years minds can change, and things can happen.
i'd say tell her to wait, let her fly off, and you consider it a "nice breakup".

if your lucky she comes back to you when shes legal, but dont cling on to it.

/5 cents.
lol :lol:

oh, i am letting her fly off. still keeping in touch though via myspace.
but just friendly stuff. talk about each other's day, problems, jokes, deeper stuff and personal opinions, and maybe a small innuendo thrown in occasionally for fun, etc. lol :)

but i made it clear to her that i don't expect her to stay single and wait on me in the meantime. she can do whatever she wants.
but if she's single by the time she legal, we've both agreed we wanna date.
objections?


im amazed :I
i would have a lot more trouble heeding my own good advice, but no objections, that sounds very good.
it makes more SENSE tho, dont you think? all in all? :D


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10 Sep 2009, 12:54 am

zena4 wrote:
Of course. Good luck for the both of you in life.
thank you :) .

good luck to you too :wink:


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10 Sep 2009, 12:57 am

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Seanmw wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
being a stoner i can tell you that cops will find out the darndest things :D

dont take the risk, and explain it to her. shes young, and in 2 years minds can change, and things can happen.
i'd say tell her to wait, let her fly off, and you consider it a "nice breakup".

if your lucky she comes back to you when shes legal, but dont cling on to it.

/5 cents.
lol :lol:

oh, i am letting her fly off. still keeping in touch though via myspace.
but just friendly stuff. talk about each other's day, problems, jokes, deeper stuff and personal opinions, and maybe a small innuendo thrown in occasionally for fun, etc. lol :)

but i made it clear to her that i don't expect her to stay single and wait on me in the meantime. she can do whatever she wants.
but if she's single by the time she legal, we've both agreed we wanna date.
objections?


im amazed :I
i would have a lot more trouble heeding my own good advice, but no objections, that sounds very good.
it makes more SENSE tho, dont you think? all in all? :D
i guess. mine might make more sense for success in the long-term anyhow.

but thanks for listening and your thoughts anyhow :) .
and thanks for the approval of my plan.


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