Whatever people say about "needing" friends...

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Daniella
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27 Sep 2009, 6:30 pm

..the downsides of having friends can't possibly weigh up to the good sides. Either you're not close enough with your friends so the relationship isn't very interesting, or you're so close that you're constantly arguing about useless crap since being so close means you get to see their not-so-great-traits as well.

Honestly, what are the benefits of having friends?
1. Talking? About what? The weather? What Tracey did last weekend? Boring.
2. Activities? Like what? Going to clubs? Horrible.
3. Sharing your emotions? Meaning having to hear at the other person's whining all the time. No thanks.

Every time I get close-ish with someone I just get annoyed with them for one reason or another. You get to see their not-so-great-sides and they seem to think you're always available for them. Like the world revolves around them.

People are okay as long as they're kept on a healthy distance. The closer the get, the more clingy they will get, right until the point where you don't know anymore how to get rid of them. Or they just stab you in the back bluntly, although that doesn't occur as much.

I'd just rather live on my own from now on. Maybe get a dog. That's probably better than having a human friend.



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27 Sep 2009, 6:39 pm

You'll hear no argument from me against living without friends. Ever since I was young, I questioned whether I truly needed anyone.

Now, at age 26, I'm not doing too well, but I believe that the ability to be happy without direct contact with other people is something that human beings deserve to have and to try for.


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27 Sep 2009, 7:26 pm

I respect your right to live as a hermit and pursue happiness anyway you see fit so long as your lifestyle doesn't hurt anyone else.

That being said, I think you are wrong to make such sweeping generalizations about other people. Not all people are clingy when they get close and not all people will stab you in the back bluntly. And, whether you believe it or not, there are some very nice, friendly people out there that can make an otherwise dreary world a better place to live in. I hope someday you meet one or two of them.



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27 Sep 2009, 8:29 pm

1. Talking is a fact of life. A shame humans aren't telepathic in any way.

2. Activities can be fun, especially if you know people with common interests.

3. NTs seem to need a sounding board to remain psychologically stable. They don't necessarily seek solutions for their problems, but they do want reassurances. They don't want to feel alone or unloved. With NT-NT friendships, this sort of thing is mutual. they reciprocate one-another's sympathies. But aspies don't seem to need this nearly as much. My best guess right now is that due to its obsessive nature, aspie psychology isn't stable by NT terms - or it has a different balance point.


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27 Sep 2009, 8:56 pm

Whew. I had to go look this one up ...

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Friend, n. (Webster)
1. One who is attached to another by affection; one who entertains sentiments of esteem, respect and affection for another which lead him/her to desire his/her company, and to seek to promote his/her happiness and prosperity; opposed to foe or enemy.
4. An attendant; a companion.
9. A friend at court, one who has sufficient interest to serve another.

Friend, v.t.
To favor; to countenance; to befriend; to support or aid. [But we now use befriend.]


... and now I do not know what to say.

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Friendly, a.
1. Having the temper and disposition of a friend; kind; favorable; disposed to promote the good of another.
2. Disposed to peace.
3. Amicable. We are on friendly terms.
4. Not hostile; as a friendly power or state.
5. Favorable; propitious; salutary; promoting the good of; as a friendly breeze or gale.


I only know two people I would truly trust as friends if I really needed to do so, and I believe they might say the same of me. With everyone else, being “friendly” between us, and usually with reservations (at least on my end), is as about as good as it gets for me.


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27 Sep 2009, 9:28 pm

I enjoy solitude. I'm happy spending most of my time alone. But I enjoy having friends too. Basically I have some people who are fun to talk to once in a while, and a couple close friends who are fun to hang out with. I don't find having friends bad.

Besides, if I'm totally alone, not connecting with anyone even through things like the internet, I'll lose strength.


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28 Sep 2009, 1:58 am

Daniella wrote:
..the downsides of having friends can't possibly weigh up to the good sides. Either you're not close enough with your friends so the relationship isn't very interesting, or you're so close that you're constantly arguing about useless crap since being so close means you get to see their not-so-great-traits as well.

Honestly, what are the benefits of having friends?
1. Talking? About what? The weather? What Tracey did last weekend? Boring.
2. Activities? Like what? Going to clubs? Horrible.
3. Sharing your emotions? Meaning having to hear at the other person's whining all the time. No thanks.

Every time I get close-ish with someone I just get annoyed with them for one reason or another. You get to see their not-so-great-sides and they seem to think you're always available for them. Like the world revolves around them.

People are okay as long as they're kept on a healthy distance. The closer the get, the more clingy they will get, right until the point where you don't know anymore how to get rid of them. Or they just stab you in the back bluntly, although that doesn't occur as much.

I'd just rather live on my own from now on. Maybe get a dog. That's probably better than having a human friend.


1. Humour. Ideas.
2. Doing things together either cannot or are harder to acheive alone, be it a game of poker or a LAN party to making a band or starting a business.
3. I'll agree on that.

I find dogs detestable, just as any other noisy stinking obsequious creature.