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02 Oct 2009, 6:01 pm

He has been lately. And im worried. he's an aspie and he's just been really depressed lately...like...REALLY depressed. i dont know what to do, since i'm just an internet friend :(. so i cant actually see the situation myself. but his real life friend who i'm also friends with was worried about it as well.
what can i do to help? it's making me incredibly depressed as well. i know for a fact if he did commit suicide i would punch several windows and cry a lot.



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02 Oct 2009, 6:18 pm

Have you done anything to try to convince him not to, like seeing a psychologist or recommending a outpatient psychiatric program?


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02 Oct 2009, 6:23 pm

yeah i tell him all the people who would miss him and how illogical it is, and try to cheer him up and stuff. i dont think its very effective, though.
ive never really suggested a psychologist....i should! D: i dont think hed really follow the advice though.



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02 Oct 2009, 6:42 pm

Do you have his physical address?


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02 Oct 2009, 8:17 pm

Do you know what is making him depressed?

Perhaps if you knew what was on his mind, you could help him out with finding a reasonable solution. Knowing that there is a way out would stop him from thinking that suicide is the only solution to his problems.


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02 Oct 2009, 11:56 pm

There's nothing rational about depression or suicide, I don't think you'll be able to talk them out of it by talking about their problems. Last time I had suicidal ideation, I had everything; it wasn't about having rational reasons to kill myself (although god knows they're out there), it was something else. A state of mind. Your friend needs help. They need to talk to lots of people.

If I were you I would talk to them about it (it shouldn't hurt them to talk about it), encourage them to get help from a professional, or minimally to tell their family if they haven't already.



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03 Oct 2009, 12:41 am

Phule wrote:
There's nothing rational about depression or suicide, I don't think you'll be able to talk them out of it by talking about their problems. Last time I had suicidal ideation, I had everything; it wasn't about having rational reasons to kill myself (although god knows they're out there), it was something else. A state of mind. Your friend needs help. They need to talk to lots of people.

The parts bolded by me are contradictory.


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03 Oct 2009, 12:55 pm

i have his physical address...but he lives in England...that's sorta far.
he's depressed i believe because he has AS and hes always frustrated with not understanding people and stuff. thats what he said, i sure there are other reasons however.

ill talk to him about seeing someone next time it comes up.



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03 Oct 2009, 1:27 pm

Get him to come to WP. Seems like a good place he can make some friends and talk about his issues. :)



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03 Oct 2009, 1:35 pm

but then he'll wonder why im here!



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03 Oct 2009, 4:15 pm

And that matters because?



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03 Oct 2009, 7:17 pm

true X/. my reason is very immature.



well apparently he does have a shrink. so that's good.



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03 Oct 2009, 9:05 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
i have his physical address...but he lives in England...that's sorta far.
he's depressed i believe because he has AS and hes always frustrated with not understanding people and stuff. thats what he said, i sure there are other reasons however.

ill talk to him about seeing someone next time it comes up.

I brought up his physical address because if you thought he was really going to kill himself you could call the police to go check on him. You might sacrifice your friendship that way but you'd save his life. I've gone through a similar situation with an online friend so I know it's not an easy thing to do.


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04 Oct 2009, 1:29 am

True X? As in ex-boyfriend? Hm, ok.

Well, sharing his personal feelings with other people in the same situation could do some good. I'd easily grab a piece of my pride and throw it into the ocean if I knew it'd help.

So, is it fair to assume the situation isn't as acute as it may seem - for now?



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04 Oct 2009, 1:51 am

Awithliving wrote:
True X? As in ex-boyfriend? Hm, ok.

Well, sharing his personal feelings with other people in the same situation could do some good. I'd easily grab a piece of my pride and throw it into the ocean if I knew it'd help.

So, is it fair to assume the situation isn't as acute as it may seem - for now?


That was an emoticon, I think.



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04 Oct 2009, 10:50 am

it was an emoticon, sorry! you know, the squinted eyes and mouth to the side....X/.
i will. he seems better now, which is good. he goes through periods of sad and priods of happy. i think hes less serious about the suicide thing.