Europe attempts to poison Israel with theralene!

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29 Sep 2009, 6:12 pm

When I was little, my mom was going to give me a medication before I went to sleep. I told her "I don't want calcium: don't you see that if it tastes so bad it means that my body tells me that it doesn't need it"? She responded, in overly sweet voice, "tak eto zhe ne kaltsij, eto zh theralen", which is, in Russian, "but that is not calcium, it is theralene". Now, theralene is something I was given for my allergies. But, since I was also hyperactive as a kid, they specifically chose theralene since it also has sedative properties; in fact, sometimes it is used as psychiatric drug just like it is used as anti-allergine!

As any other psychiatric drug, the way theralene works is by ruining a person's brain. Consider, for example, a neuropeptic. Its function is to block nerves. It is not "smart" so it doesn't know which nerves cause psychotic symptoms such as hallucinations and which cause normal function. So it indistinguisheably blocks ALL of them. In other words, it ruins your brain to such an extend that it doesn't have enough power to hallucinate. This is similar to saying that if your computer says "2+2=5" why not hit it with a hammer hard enough so that it won't be able to say ANYTHING AT ALL, including 2+2=5.

Now, theralene is not a neuroleptic. But still it is very similar in philosophy. They don't recommend taking theralene in the morning since you would be drawsy all day. If theralene was "smart" and only got rid of "bad" hyperactivity, tihs would never be an issue. But, just like other drugs (including neuroleptics), theralene is not smart, which is why it makes you drawsy and impairs your functions. Now, sure, I took it in the evening and not morning. But if it were to totally wear off during the night, then the question is what is the point? The answer is that it only wear off partially but not completely.

Again, since theralene is not smart, who is to say that the "partial" effect that was left was "good" as opposed to the other part that was worn off? Nobody! So, whatever effect theralene had, it impaired me, whether it be day or night. That BAD effect of making me drawsy and the effect of my natural hyperactivity "cancelled" each other out which made me look normal. But hey, two wrongs don't make it up to right! Even more importnatly: who is to say hyperactivity is a bad thing? For all we know, a hyperactive person can think faster, run faster, etc. Hyperactivity might be an advantage. But since the person is "different" our society (by means of so-called doctors) tries to persecute him, by poisoning him with theralene.

Now, back to the original story. Notice how my original argument was that calcium doesn't taste good which means my body doesn't want it, and how my mom's counter-argument is that it is theralene and not calcium. The reality that argument worked is that theralene is coated. In other words, my mom assumed that I was stupid and would think that if something is coated it means it is not as bad to my body as it would have been if it weren't! In fact, if I were to chew theralene it would taste WORSE than calcium, which is just about right: theralene is meant to destroy your brain and calcium doesn't.

Now, this theralene is very widespread, and is used well beyond medicine. For instance, do you know that Europe attempts to fing Israel mostly through export of theralene?

Most of the modern anti-semitism has nothing to do with direct violence, or any negative attitude towards Jewish INDIVIDUALS. In my experience, whenever I tell someone that I am Jewish, the worst I get is they just remember it just like they remember my name, and the best I get is "we LOVE Jewish people". No one ever disliked me for being Jewish. The kind of antisemitism that exists today is NOT when ppl bring up something anti-Jewish, but rather when they IGNORE anything pro-Jewish. Like for example, in Israeli-Palestinian conflict they IGNORE the fact that Palestinians are the ones who started the terroristic attacks, and what Israel does is merely a RESPOSE to their agression. No one ever says that Jews killed Jesus or that Jews dip Palestinian blood into the matzos or anything like that. Whatever they say Jews did, they indeed did; but the problem is that they IGNORE part of the picture, namely that they did it in response to something else.

Do you know that a lot of Jews could have been saved during the holocaust if the other countries were to simply let them immigrate? But these countries IGNORED Hitler, in much the same way as todays world IGNORES palestinians, which is why they didn't save them. There were even proposals to bomb the railways that lead to concentration camps. But "somehow" there were "some reasons" planes couldn't "exactly" get to the right location, even though they were all around this location for reasons OTHER THAN bombing the railways!

So what it seems like is that the "natural" stance of ppl to "ignore" the Jews. During WW2 they successfully ignored them. But, when Palestinians terrorize them, the "ignoring" didn't work, since the Jews started to fight for themselves. But they still managed to "ignore" it: they ignored everything that Palestinians did, which is why they see actions of Israel as an agression!

Now, this goes both ways. The way Jews ignore non-Jews is similar to the way antisemites ignore the jews. A good example is how Jews refer to Christianity as "unnamed religion". The Jews, almost exclusively, avoid to ever acknowledge that they have the same roots with Christianity. In fact, some Jews can toy with buddhism, but if they were to become Christians, that is anathema as far as the most liberal of them are concerned.

Let me give you another example, how my Jewish mother disapproved my dating a non-Jewish girl, Jennifer, who is now my ex, and how it was completely parallel to the way antisemites disapprove of the Jews. Last year me and Jennifer were supposed to go to North Carolina in August. When, in June, I first told my mom about North Carolina, she was like "why North Carolina?" Apparently she didn't realize that when I said we were in a relationship it actually meant we were in a relationship. Until she learned about North Carolina she assumed we were just friends. She figured that, due to my Asperger, I was naive and didn't know what the relationship is. I then threw a fit as to why she said "why north carolina" and she pretended to have no problem with it, just like antisemites pretend NOT to exterminate Jews, they just don't exactly stay in the way when either Hitler or palestinians do that.

Now, there was one conflict. She planned a concert in Ukraine which was a big cultural event involving Russian music and that place in Ukraine was "her dream". The North Carolina thing happened to conflict with Ukraine. In other words, she didn't have anything against North Carolina; she just didn't care about North Carolina. It simply that North Carolina that she didn't care about happened to conflict with trip to Ukraine that she did. NOTICE THE PARALLEL NOW: Europeans don't have anything agianst the Israeli Jews. They just don't care about them. It is simply that the interests of Israeli Jews that they don't care about happen to conflict with the interests of Palestinians that they do.

Anyway, I then threw a tantrum where I wanted to grab a cell phone, call Jennifer, swear at her, and yell at her that I cancel North Carolina. My mom grabbed the phone out of my hands and told me not to do that, and said that she will accomodate things so that I go with her to North Carolina. I then felt that she didn't really mean it, she only said it to please me. So I decided to trigger her to defend Jennifer harder, by deliberately saying negative things about Jennifer throughout the summer (June through august).

Whenever I said something negative she would superficially defend Jennifer, but not really mean it. This is very similar to how everyone would superficially include Jews in the list of minorities that they defend, but not mean it (as illustrated by how they failed to save them from Hitler and how they failed to side with them in Israeli-Palestinian conflict).

Anyway, due to the fact that she has been sick in the spring, she failed her first prelim (an exam required for eveyrone to take by the end of second year). The one she failed was in July, so she had to re-take it in September. She was very depressed after she failed that exam, so she wanted me to stay in September for her other exam so that I would emotionally support her in case she would get depressed.

Now it turns out that if it was JUST North Carolina, I would still be able to go to Ukrain; it would only have sacrificed the time together we could have had before the week-long concernt. But her re-take was overlapping with concert. So I called my mom and started to complain how selfish she is by making me stay with her during her re-take instead of going to Ukraine. I didn't really mean anything I said; my only purpose was to try to force my mom to defend her Now here is how the conevrsation went:

MYSELF: Look at how selfish Jennifer is, she decided that I should stay there for a second pre-lim

MY MOM: What do YOU want to do

NOTE: isn't it OBVIOUS that I should stay with Jennifer since I told her she was severely depressed? So how come she merely says "what do you want to do?" Because she IGNORES everything pro-Jennifer, just like antisemites ignore everything pro-Jewish

MYSELF: I definitely want to go to Ukraine with you I don't care about her second pre-lim

MY MOM: But then you have to make sure to call her every day

PLEASE NOTE: if she really cared about her she would try to fight for me to stay with her, not JUST say that I have to call her. The fact of a matter is that she doesn't care about her, and her suggestion that I call her is only something she said to please me.

MYSELF: Why am I supposed to call her? Don't you see how it is fake? I have to call her when she is depressed just like I had to celebrate when she was happy. Look it should be obvious. Before her first pre-lim, she thought she would do very well, and she kept pressuring me to come so we could celebrate her success (which I didn't because I was seeing my thesis advisor at another state). And now she is saying that I have to stay with her to emotionally support her in case she doesn't do well. So which one is it? When is it she wants me around? When she does well or when she doesn't? She can't have it both ways!

MY MOM: I can't judge, because I don't know her

PLEASE NOTE: there is a very clear way of DEFENDING Jennifer against these accusations. My mom remembers very well what kind of dramma it was for me when I was nearly expelled, and now Jennifer was nearly expelled as well. So she could have figured that there is just as much dramma for Jennifer. Yet my mom simply says "I can't judge her", and FORGETS everything else she could have said.

MYSELF: Here is one other ridiculous thing that she suggested. She wanted me to come see her just for the day of the exam. She doesn't care how much money I will pay for the tickets.

now notice my mom will actually be AGAINST her in a more open way

MY MOM: This indeed is ridiculous. Apart from the cost, how are you supposed to have all these sleepless nights flying back and forth

NOTICE: my mom IGNORED the fact that *I* was the first who called it ridiculous, because she was trying to PERSWADE me it is ridiculous. So she didn't notice what I have done, much like during WW2 they didn't notice what Hitler did, or right now they don't notice what Palestinians do.

MYSELF: Why are you trying to perswade ME of this? I agree with you it is ridiculous, Jennifer is the one who forces me to do it.

MY MOM: Don't get me wrong, you can still decide between North Carolina and Ukraine, I am just saying that flying back and forth is hard

MYSELF: I choose to go to Ukraine. I just don't know what to say to Jennifer to perswade her

MY MOM: Do you want me to give you an advise on how to perswade her

MYSELF: Yes

MY MOM: First of all, if you want to go with Jennifer then you don't have to do anything

PLEASE NOTICE: she ignored all the times I said I didn't want to go, just like Europe ignores all the Palestinian attacks against Israel

MY MOM CONTINUES: on the other hand, if you don't want to go, you can do X, Y, Z (don't remember what they were, just some of her suggestions on how to communicate better). And by the way, I can come over to help you perswade Jennifer. If you don't want me to do that I don't have to come ...

PLEASE NOTE: Again, she ignored the fact that *I* was the one who told her to come, just like antisemites ignore the attacks of Hitler/palestinians on Jews!

MYSELF: Yes I DO want you to come

Then I talked to Jennifer and she was mad at the fact that I didn't stop my mom from comming (I presented it to Jennifer like my mom insisted on comming and I didn't have balls to tell her not to).

The next day I called my mom to stop her from buying tickets:

MYSLEF: Jennifer will be very mad if you come

MY MOM: I have already bought a ticket, they are irrefundable, and I am going to come. I don't care what Jenniver things, she is not in a position to tell me what to do. Ukraine was my dream and I don't want her ruining it.

NOW DO YOU SEE HOW SHE JUST HAVE SHOWN HER TRUE COLORS? She was VERY AGRESSIVE when I told her not to come. She INSISTED on comming, and in fact she bought a ticket WITHIN ONE DAY, which is not very typical of her; usually she looks for better tickets of different prices and waits around to see if there is something yet cheaper. But this time she did it really fast. Also, my mom NEVER buys irrefundable tickets, but now she did!

Now remember how I said that Europeans were TOO SLOW in bombing the railways that lead to concentration camps? And now my mom was REALLY FAST in buying a ticket. Both being too slow and being too fast is called passive agression. Europeans didn't say they wanted Jews dead; they were just SLOW saving them. Likewise, UNTIL my mom actually bought the ticket, she didn't insist that she comes; she asked me several times if I wanted her to. Yet, after I confirmed that I did, she just HAPPENED to be so fast about buying them.

Anyway when my mom came all three of us met. I was quiet, just hoping that Jennifer will tell my mom why I should go to North Carolina with her. Jennifer didn't feel comfortable doing it either, and it turned out she expected ME to so that my mom sees it is my wish, not hers. So after the meeting we decided that I go to Ukraine. Then Jennifer sent me an email criticising me for not having insisted on going to North Carolina. I decided to show my mom this email since it would accomplish two goals: first of all my mom will let me go to North Carolina in order to please Jennifer, and secondly, my mom would FINALLY take it seriously that I upset Jennifer, which she didn't before since she IGNORED me whenever I been telling her how bad Jennifer is and FORGOT to defend Jennifer against my attacks. So I thought that now that she will read Jennifer's email she will finally NOTICE what I was saying, such as wehn I said Jennifer pushes me to do this or that, realize that I don't care about Jennier enough and push me to care just like I wanted her to for so long.

So I opened her email and showed to my mom. Her first reaction: "let me sit down and think what to do, I HOPE YOU CAN STILL WORK ON YOUR PHYSICS WHILE I AM TIHNKING". What? I wanted to tell my mom that I DON"T CARE abuot Jennifer and WANT to focus on physics. My mom ignored it completely and was STILL thinking I am obsessed with Jennifer, in fact too much so! Anyway, I then realized that the email had something I don't want my mom to know (in particular "it was very nice of you to log in to Asperger and Their partners without having curtesy to tell me you won't bother take a driving test"). I don't want my mom to know EITHER about "Asperger and their Partners" message board, nor about driving test. So I closed that email, and claimed that it completely disappeared. My mom then insisted I find it. I claimed it disappeared from the email account. She is not very familiar with internet so thats why I could get away with it, even though she kept asking me how about this page of email or that.

Anyway, she then said that unless I find that email she will not be helping me to go to Ukraine. I then told her that I have to harry up to make my girlfriend feel better. I then called my gf in front of her trying to soothe her saying "Jenny, Jenny I really love you". I was HOPING that my mom would conclude that I am POSING to Jennifer that I feel something I don't really feel , but instead of getting the intended message across, my mom decided I was in love with Jennifer. Consequently, she decided I was naive for not seeing how BAD Jennifer was for the email that she wrote me, and was STILL saying that I love her.

Now, in order for her to reach this conclusion, two things needs to happen:

a) She has to IGNORE all the times I told her how Jennifer was horrible in order to decide that I am naive and don't see it

b) She has to INGORE that *I* did something to cause the kind of email that Jennifer sent, in order to blame that email ON HER

Now, "a" is reminiscent of the way Europe treated Jews during WW2 when they ignored what Hitler did. On the other hand, "b" is reminiscent of the way Europe treats Jews during the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: since Europe ignores what Palestinians did to cause Jewish counter-attack Jews become agressors, likewise if my mom ignores what I did to cause Jennifer's email, then of course, the email gets blamed on Jennifer.

Now lets look at Europe for a moment. Did Europe attached Jews during WW2? No, Europe ignored them. Did Europe attacked Jews during Israeli-Palestinian conflict? YES! Reason? Since the Jews didn't ignore themselves the way Europe was trying to ignore them, the Europe had natural resistence to such an "unexpected" behavior on the part of the Jews. After all, if Europe ignores what causes the behavior, then the behavior that they do is seen as agression. During WW2, they didn't DO anything so no agression charge was made. Now they DO do something, so they became agressors.

Well, by a perfect analogy with Europe, my mom didn't attack Jennifer UNINL she seen that email. But once she seen the emial, she attacked her. She NEVER minced words on how horrible Jennifer was ever since she saw that email. She was VERY agressive for the whole YEAR ever since. Now, Hitler have written about some things that Jews DID, in the Mein Kampf. This didn't provoked Europe, since Europe ignored what Hitler did, including Main Kampf. On the other hand, once Europe saw JEWISH behavior in WW2 it wasn't ignored. Likewise, when I was telling my mom all the bad stuff about Jennifer, she totally ignored it, since she ignores whenever Jennifer is a victim just like Europe ignores when jews are victims. Thats why my mom never attacked Jennifer for any of the bad things I TOLD her about, any more than Europe attacked Jews for any bad things Hitler told Europe about. But once my mom saw what Jennifer did by some avenue OTHER THAN the one she ignores, she started to hate her, just like when Europe saw what Jews did by some avenue other than Hitler, Europe started to hate them as well.

Let me briefly describe how I found out that my mom completely switched sides and how unexpected it was. So while I called Jennifer in front of my mom, I agreed to come and see her at the other building on campus. When I came Jennifer was quite upset. But then a while later my mom called and told Jennifer that she thinks it is best that I go with her to North Carolina. Meanwhile I had to get something out from Jennifer's car, and I called my mom, with an intention to attack her for not arguing further that I should go to Ukraine. I DIDN"T EVNE HAVE TIME TO SAY ANYTHING and she starts screaming at me:

MY MOM: Please come over to me IMMEDIATELY

MYSELF: What is wrong

MY MOM: Are you with Jennifer?

MYSELF: no

MY MOM: Where are you?

MYSELF: (name a location)

MY MOM: Where is Jennifer

MYSLF: (name another location)

MY MOM: Can you come over within 5 minutes

MYSELF: Yes. But what is the issue

MY MOM: I told you I am not going to do anything unless you show me the email that she sent you. So I haven't. I called Jennifer and said you are going to North Carolina

MYSELF: But the email was trully gone

MY MOM: I won't talk to you until you come over

Then I came to my mom

MY MOM: Jenny, Jenny, I really love you

MYSELF: why are you speaking that way

MY MOM: Lets forget about your school work, or Ukraine, or anything else, and lest focus our lifes on Jenny

MYSELF: Why are you yelling at ME, she is the one who pushed me

MY MOM: I don't know, indeed

MYSELF: Really, what did *I* do wrong?

MY MOM: Absolutely nothing. You know what my honest advise to you is? Go away from Jennifer as fast as you can, and whipe your feet off of her

MYSLEF: What makes you think that

MY MOM: That email, which apparently you don't want me to see, tells me everything I need to know about her

MYSELF: But that email was written because she was upset. For instance, she cried when I talked to her. Sometimes she also gets so upset that she can't even speak and asks me to get her a water while barely moving her mouth

MY MOM: Men are easilly affected by women's tears and she knows it

MYSELF: No I am not affected by her tears. In fact I feel BETTER when she cries since she is less likely to be angry then. I am only affected by her anger, NOT tears.

MY MOM: Then why were you saying "Jenny, Jenny, I love you"

MYSELF: To make her less ANGRY

(it took few exchanges to convince her of that)

Anyway, since it is already 3 AM here in India and I need to go to bed, let me just write down a list of things my mom DID to Jennifer for the YEAR that followed that email, so you can see how she came clean in totally hating her:

1) During the remainder of the time before I had to go to North Carolina my mom (NOT me!) said that I her honest advice is that I "throw Jennifer into garbage and wipe my feet off of her", "run away from her as fast as she can", that she is "a wolf with sharp teeth", etc.

2) Again, before North Carolina my mom said that Jennifer is

a) hysteric woman (that was in response to my telling her that Jennifer cries, so again my mom refused to see a clear evidence that Jennifer is a victim and instead used it against her, just like Europe refuses to see that Jews are victims and thus using things against them)

b) that if I go to North Carolina Jennifer will "drag" me into a bed with her and "make sure we have a child" in order to trap me

c) that she will ruin my career because I mentioned that she is against my studying physics (when me, my mom and Jennifer met, my mom asked Jennifer if I would have time to study, I answered yes, and then few minutes later I doulbe-checked with Jennifer if I was right saying yes since I wanted to avoid comming across as lying in Jennifer's favor, and my mom got all over that one little double-check)

d) That Jennifer is fat and no sane guy would ever be with a monster like that, so of course she wants me since I am the only one crazy to be with her

e) That, since Jennifer has polycistic ovaries, which is HORMONAL and would make her INFERTILE, I shouldn't ever be with her (NOTE: it contradicts part b where she is afraid I would get a kid with her)

3) Then she also told my dad (and my dad is in Russia while we were in USA) as to how horrible Jennifer is. He then called me from Russia and left a message that I ran onto a "b***h". When I called him back to talk about it, he told me that Jennifer is a lose woman who sleeps around with all kinds of guys. When I tried to counter him by telling him how there was a particular guy who competed with me to be with her, he said that she made that guy up, and if I remember correctly he also said that no one would seriously want her anyway to back it up.

4) AFTER North Carolina there was another BIG fiasco as to whether or not I should go to Christmass to see her family. UN-like North Carolina, both of my parents had VERY STRONG postition that I absolutely should NOT see her on Christmass, and they would insist on that position even if I do try to openly argue with it. Their reason was that my thesis defense was at the end of January so it would be "ridiculous" to see a family right before the thesis defense. There were quite a few counter-arguments I would bring up (although I would phrame it as "jennifer said X can you help me argue with her" which they would ignore and act as if it was my opinion, just like they ignored it before North Carolina) none of which they heard. They are as follows:

a) I have plenty of time BEFORE Christmass, so I have time to prepare. Their response: what if you won't? My counter-argument: if the defense was BEFORE Christmass, I would be able to prepare, right? So, why can't I pretend it is before Christmass

b) Jennifer told me several times her family will let me study! In fact she said that her dad for the most part just watches TV! They would tell me that Jennifer can't speak for others (even if I CLEARLY tell them she KNOWS them it is her own family) or that they KNOW it is rude if I just study, never mind that Jennifer should be the one concerned if it is rude or not. BOTTOM LINE: they simply don't believe that Jennifer would let me study, they think she lies to me

c) I should go on Dec 22 to California (where my mom lives) to celebrate my grandmother's birthday. PLEASE NOTE: when I decided to cancel BOTH California (where my mom lives) AND Arizona (where Jennifer's family lives), in favor of staying in Michigan to study for the exam, it didn't matter any more that I missed my grandmother's birthday.

d) If I insist on going to Arizona, why don't I go few days later so I can have my last meeting with one of the ppl in my dissertation committee. Well, I was meeting one of them twice a week and the other three times a week, so ONE last meeting didn't matter that much if I had 20 meetings until that one. YET, that meeting WAS important enough to miss my grandmother's birthday, yet Jennifer's family was not (just like the Jews are "not important" when it comes to the way Europe treats them).

5) When I refutted the above arguments, they resorted to openly saying their real concerns:

a) If I go to Arizona Jennifer will force me to marry

b) On top of forcing me to marry her, she will force me to abandone my career as a physicist, and find me a job as a janitor

c) Jennifer is like a garbage can, and other girls are like fine restaurants, and they don't get why I eat from a garbage can while there are 10 fine restaurants just around the block?

6) After Christmass when I was done with my ph.d. defense my mom wanted me back to see my grandmother for a passover. Jennifer on the other hand wanted me in Michigan. My mom was bringing up some strong reasons for me to go to passover, such as my grandomther is old and might die, so when else will I selebrate passover with her, especially since I go to India for postdoc and who knows if I will be able to come back for passover next year. Now PLEASE NOTE: previous years I didn't celebrate passover in California either, because of school. It was never an issue. Yet, once Jennifer was around it became an issue. It is similar to the way how whenever Arabs attack each other it is never an issue, but when Jews are the ones that, supposedly, attack Arabs, it becomes an issue.

7) Right before the passover, Jennifer's grandmother and aunt were in a terrible car accident. They were both having serous hemirages and were unconscious for a few days. Her aunt also bit off her tongue off. Also, it looked like one or both of them were going to die (it turned out that neither died, although her aunt ended up with permanent brain damage so that she acts like 5 year old sometimes). Anyway, I called my mom to make it a reason to see it. Her response:

a) NO, I should see my grandmother because my grandmother has hernia PRE-surgery appointment. By the way, it was April, and my grandmother STILL haven't gotten an actual surgery appointment. Yet, being with my grandmother for her PRE-surgery was more important than attending to Jennifer's family who were actually dying

b) My mom's land lord asked me how do I know Jennifer is telling the truth about the car accident. So in other words, they assume she lies. If someone lies, what do you do? You IGNORE everything they say, just like Europe IGNORED the fate of Jews under Hitler or under Arabs.

c) My mom pointed out how the fact that Jennifer won't go there without me (she is not allowed to see them while they are in intense care, unless they are in a direct family) shows what kind of horrible attitude she has towards her own family

8 ) Since Jennifer didn't want to let me to choose passover with my family over her, I perswaded her to make a compromise, so I took her there with me. She wrote a very long email to my mom detailing all of our past disagreements. In each case she would write three parts: what she (Jennifer) did wrong, what my mom did wrong, and what Jennifer expects different for the future. Even though Jennifer spent JUST AS MUCH time admitting her own mistakes as she did outlining my mom's, my mom TOTALLY IGNORED the part where she admitted her own mistakes and viewed that email as another attack on her, even though the TRUE intention of the email was to make piece. Again, this is similar to the way Europe views Jews. The reason the behavior of Jews towards Arabs is viewed in such a negative light is that they totally IGNORED what Arabs do to Jews. In the same way, the reason the email that Jennifer wrote is viewed in such a negative light is that my mom totally ignored everything that Jennifer said where she admitted her own mistakes. MY MOM THEN WENT AS FAR AS REPRINTING THAT EMAIL AND SHOWING IT TO ALL HER FRIENDS, ALL OF WHICH CONFIRMED THAT THE EMAIL WAS "AN ATTACK". ONE OF HER FRIENDS DID PSYCHOANALYSIS OF THAT EMAIL AND WROTE AN "EVALUATION" OF JENNIFER, all of which was done without her permission!

9) While at the passover, one of my mom's friends (the same one as the one who did the evaluation of the email) said, in Russian, that Jennifer is very ugly (she weighs 250 lbl). Now, everyone there knew Russian except for Jennifer. Then, my grandmother wanted to talk to me because "she haven't seen me for such a long time". When she did talk, she told me how I am such a fair guy and Jennifer is such a monster and she doesn't understand why I was with her. When I told Jennifer what my grandmother said after I talked to her Jennifer was very upset. I then held her hand while there was a concert at our house (it was few days AFTER passover, so the concert had nothing to do with it) and then my mom criticized me for holding her hands during the concert because it "disracts the audience".

10) I then went to see Jennifer's family for easter. It was only for a couple of days. Yet, my mom called Jennifer's family because I didn't call her when she expected. Since Jennifer didn't give any permission to my mom to call her family, this put her in a bad mood and ruined the whole thing.

11) Even though I have defended thesis a few months ago, the official graduation was in May. The ticket back was scheduled on saturday. Jennifer was very upset that I didn't stay with her for Sunday as well. I first accused my mom as to why did she "forget" to schedule ticket for sunday. She pointed out that I forgot it too, since she asked me if the saturday ticket was okay. I then started whining as to what to do to "fix" it now that we forgot. She had no answer, as if she OVERLOOKED something obvous: change the ticket (just like Europe "overlooked" the option of bombing railroads leading to concentration camps). I THEN SHOVED THAT OPTION INTO HER FACE, AND PRESNTED IT AS MY OWN WISH NOT HERS (just like Jews, after being tried with seeing the world ingoring that option during WW2, they shove the option of self-defence into the world's face as they deal with Palestinians) but my mom ACTIVELY argued against it (just like the world actively argues against Israel's self defense). We had a week long fight, which consisted on me pointing out why is ONE SINGLE DAY matter so much, and my mom telling me some lame things as someone has to teach me to sing and he only has 2 days so one more day would help. Well c'mon 2 days or 3 days don't make a difference! Her other excuse was that she felt sick while at my graduation so she wanted me to accompany her on a plane back, and she was going back on Saturday. Well, she is over protective so she NEVER expects me to take care of her while sick, so this was clearly a plot for her to separate me from Jennifer.

12) Before graduation she asked me if Jennifer is comming, I said I didn't bring up a subject to her, and that I was going to call her and ask. My mom stopped me from calling her and saying that she would feel more comfortable without her. I didn't call. Then the next day I felt angry that I didn't call, and when graduation neared I wanted to call her to get her come as fast as possible so she won't be late. MY MOM DENIED WHAT SHE DID YESTERDAY (just like Europe denies the fate of the Jews) and told me that she REMINDED me to call her and I CHOSE not to. Well, its like she thinks I am stupid that I would think that telling me NOT to call her amounts to reminding me to call her. Anyway, I then outbursted during graduation by running up to a chair mad and swearing at him. Then after that I wanted to "fix" it. So when me, my mom, and Jennifer were supposed to meet, I ran off away from BOTH of them to look for a chair man. Then while I was gone, my mom attacked Jennifer -- for instance Jennifer said that my mom told her that I was scared of her which is why I ran. Again, my mom IGNORES a scenario that Jennifer might be a victim (i.e. I decided to disrespect Jennifer by running), and the only way to do it is to say that Jennifer is a threat (i.e. I was scared of her which is why I ran). This ruined the graduation.

13) When my mom finally agreed to let me stay one more day with Jennifer she told me that her condition is that I don't make "any plans" with Jennifer, such as the next Christmass. I then told my mom that I don't have to defend thesis after next Christmass, so whats wrong with it? She said that I don't know how many free days I will have as a post doc, and Jennifer won't care, if I have plans with her Jennifer will make me follow through no matter what. I then told her that if Institute won't allow me to, I will say so. My mom told me that no I won't and reminded me how I insisted that I was "perfectly ready" and "really wanted" to see Jennifer for previous Christmass despite my defense few weeks later. AGAIN SHE COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT WHEN I WAS PRESENTING ARGUMENTS TO SEE JENNIFER PREVIOUS CHRISTMASS I ALWAYS FRAMED THEM AS "JENNIFER WANTS ME TO DO IT BECAUSE OF X, I DON"T WANT TO DO IT, CAN YOU HELP ME REFUTE X SO I CAN COUNTER JENNIFER". But she forgot all that and decided that I said, FROM MYSELF, that I believed X. Never mind the fact that if I really believed X or really wanted to go to Christmass I won't be asking my mom for advice on how to counter Jennifer. Again, she ignores whenever Jennifer is a victim!

Now, lets summarize what happened:

1) She was "surprised" I wanted to go to North Carolina with Jennifer (i.e. she IGNORED any reasons why we should go, it was unimportant; this is similar to Europe treating Jews as unimportant)

2) I was upset about her regarding Jennifer as unimportant, so I attacked Jennifer myself in order for her to defend Jennifer against my attacks

3) She ignored all my attacks and failed to side with Jennifer

4) I then presented evidence of Jennifer attacking me back, to validate the fact that my attacks of her are real and not fake

5) My mom insisted on ignoring my attacks on Jennifer, and viewed her counter-attack as her being an "agressor"

6) My mom continued to ignore the fact that I ever attacked her

7) As a result of combination of 5 and 6, she decided I was naive that I fell in love with an agressor (never mind the fact that if she were to take 2-4 seriously she would never think I fell in love with her anyway)

8 ) My mom started her own compain against Jennifer that laster far longer than mine (my compain lasted only a couple of weeks while my mom's lasted the whole year) and her compaign was much more agressive than mine, she said the kinds of things I NEVER would have!

But for the purposes of this post, in 1-4 I was Hitler, my mom was Europe and Jennifer was a Jew. In 5-8, I was Palestinian, my mom was, again, Europe, and Jennifer, again, was a Jew. So during holocaust Europe neither sided with Jews nor opposed them, it ignored them. That is how my mom treated Jennifer, despite my obvious attacks on her. Then, in 5-8, Jennifer defended herself, just like Jews defend themselves against Palestinians. But, since Europe INSISTS on denying the agression against Jews (just like my mom insists on denying the agression against Jennifer), Europe goes out of her way to ATTACK Jews for their "defense" against "non-existent" agression, just like my mom goes out of her way to ATTACK Jennifer against her defense of "non-existant" neglect/mistreatment from my side.

Now the interesting thing is that my mom was the one who was Jewish, Jennifer was NOT. So Jews do to others exactly what is being done to them.



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Sorry but TL;DR.



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You do realize that responding with "too long, didn't read" is a bit disrespectful. A non-response probably would have gotten the same point across.


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29 Sep 2009, 10:48 pm

I read a good deal of it and it rambles through generalities about the Middle East and rather personal problems. I doubt it belongs in a discussion group on religion, philosophy and politics.



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What the hell was anyone supposed to get out of all that? That you mom wouldn't have bombed nazi railways during WWII?
Or that people around you still don't possess any psychic powers so they can read your mind?


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What the hell was anyone supposed to get out of all that? That you mom wouldn't have bombed nazi railways during WWII?


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What the hell was anyone supposed to get out of all that? That you mom wouldn't have bombed nazi railways during WWII?


I am sure she would since, after all, she is Jewish and she cares about other Jews. But if Hitler were to target some group of ppl other than Jews, then no she won't bomb the railways. So, my mom, being the Jew, does the exact same thing to non-Jews (such as Jennifer) as non-Jews are doing to Jews. And both sides really piss me off.

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Or that people around you still don't possess any psychic powers so they can read your mind?


She would need to posess psychic powers in order to defend Jennifer TO PLEASE ME. But I don't want her to do it just to please me. I want her to see ON HER OWN that Jennifer needs to be defended. This doesn't require psychic powers. After all, I did present to her all the facts, so why can't my mom side with Jennifer based on FACTS that she heard, even if she doesn't know that I want her to side with her?

The only way in which I lied to my mom was that whenever I presented pro-Jennifer facts I presented them as "Jennifer said XYZ" and then attacked her for saying "XYZ". But still I made absolutely sure that my mom heard XYZ, even though it was a quotation from Jennifer. So since she heard it, why did she ignore this piece of information?

I mean in other situations my mom WOULD push something she sees which I don't agree with. For instance, she was pushing me for a long time to go to graduate school closer to home (although I never litened to), and she also pushed me for a long time to take less courses (again I didn't listen to her either). So its not like she only hears my view of things. In everything BESIDES Jennifer she can look at facts herself and form her own opinion, even if it contradicts what I am trying to tell her. But in case of Jennifer she simply refused to do the same.

Also, if you read the second half of the email you will see that my mom AGRESSIVELY were trying to break me up with Jennifer. Once it became clear that my mom was determined to attack Jennifer, I stopped trying to bring things up to provoke her to defend Jennifer, since it became clear it would never happen. Nevertheless, my mom contined to agressively attack Jennifer for a year, even though I no longer did. So, this is much more than simple "not being able to read a mind".

Now why am I using the Europe analogy? Because all of her agressive behavior for the following year was triggered by what happened before North Carolina. Now, what happened back then did NOT involve my mom making anything up to villify Jennifer. Instead, it involved my mom's IGNORING all of the Jennifer's reasons. Now if she is simply deaf and doesn't HEAR why Jennifer does what she does, the only possible conclusion is that she does it out of the blue. And, if someone decides to ruin the other person's plans OUT OF THE BLUE, then "of coures" they are a bad person. So, my mom's conclusion was inevitable, given that she IGNORED Jennifer's side of the story.

With Israeli Palestinian conflict it is similar. Europe never said Jews did anything they didn't do. Rather, Europe IGNORED the wya Palestinians attacked them. So if the Palestinian attack is ignored, then the only possible conclusion one can make is that Israel launced an attack OUT OF THE BLUE, and if thats what they did, then OF COURSE they are bieng hated for it. And now that Israel is hated, they would do something more agressive like call NATO meetings about them, just like my mom did something far more agressive AFTER North Carolina. But in both cases agression was not anything that was initially there. Rather, it was a response to a mistaken world view, and the mistaking world view is due to simple blindness/deafness that blocked part of the picture out of the view.



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01 Oct 2009, 4:16 pm

You started off with a false assumption - that just because something tastes unpleasant to you means you don't need it, and that conversely what tastes pleasant is what your body needs. Were that the case, bodybuilders would be taking chocolate-cake supplements, and you'd hear of children dying of vitamin overdoses.

Now, we start from that basis, and proceed into what looks like a neurotic, borderline-paranoid ramble about numerous unconnected topics. I tried to slog my way through it, then I tried skimming it, and finally I was reduced to sliding the page down, hoping that somewhere near the bottom you'd tie the whole thing together. Imagine my disappointment when my effort went completely unrewarded.

No offense intended, but perhaps you should save a copy of this to show to your psychotherapist - I'm sure he/she would find it far more fascinating and revealing than any of us ever will.


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After all, I did present to her all the facts, so why can't my mom side with Jennifer based on FACTS that she heard, even if she doesn't know that I want her to side with her?

Because you're her child? And why don't you ask her upfront? I'd bet you anything that she can explain her actions a whole lot better than any of us.

But if you usually lie etc to her like that, I can understand why her actions sometimes seems very strange. You're not much better youself!

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Now, we start from that basis, and proceed into what looks like a neurotic, borderline-paranoid ramble about numerous unconnected topics. I tried to slog my way through it, then I tried skimming it, and finally I was reduced to sliding the page down, hoping that somewhere near the bottom you'd tie the whole thing together. Imagine my disappointment when my effort went completely unrewarded.

Hey! My comment was making it all worth while! :mrgreen:


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Erm, not everything with sedative properties is a psychiatric medication that destroys your brain..
Plenty of people use diphenhydramine (Bendryl) as a sleep aid, antihistamine, or both, plenty of people use melatonin (a natural neurotransmitter) as a sedative, or chamomile tea, and anything with tryptophan has a similar effect, since that amino acid is a precursor to melatonin..
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This thread is in the Haven; please post appropriately.


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This thread is in the Haven; please post appropriately.


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How? (Meaning, what is this guy trying to say?)


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You started off with a false assumption - that just because something tastes unpleasant to you means you don't need it, and that conversely what tastes pleasant is what your body needs. Were that the case, bodybuilders would be taking chocolate-cake supplements, and you'd hear of children dying of vitamin overdoses.


There is an evidence that your body knows what you want. For example when Jennifer had anemia due to blood loss in her cycle, she craved beef. In fact she craved it before she even knew she was anemic.

As far as what you say about chocolate cake, I can adress it by a quote from another thread ( http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf108311-0-15.html ) :

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There are a lot of theories about why people might be naturally inclined to higher weights; but it all boils down to, "Before the free availability of nutritious food, people who could process food efficiently and store energy for the bad times lived longer and had more babies." Now that the environment's changed so suddenly, all that genetic tailoring for famine and malnutrition is coming back and biting us in our (much larger) butts.


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Type I diabetes, the juvenile sort, is more common in people with more northern ancestry. One odd but not entirely implausible theory is to--get this--blame the Ice Age! Mildly high blood sugar would protect you from freezing as quickly in the extreme cold of an ice age; and, if you were diabetic under those conditions, you wouldn't die of it until you had had several children because your diet would have been naturally low in sugar (many of the plants with fruit that has high sugar content would not have survived an ice age). Might sound like the opposite of what evolution is supposed to do; but think about the "choice": Kill the person when they're fifty and have already had kids; or let them die of cold when they're sixteen and pregnant with their first? Under such conditions, deadly compromises can be made, and when most people die by thirty the answer's pretty obvious. Sickle-cell anemia is another example that almost everybody knows about.

I'm betting, actually, that a lot of the widespread stuff we get nowadays isn't really a result of a modern "unhealthy" lifestyle but simply a side effect of the fact that we are no longer in an extreme environment and no longer benefit from those deadly evolutionary trade-offs. It's no surprise to anybody that the majority of the stuff that's killing people today--diabetes, cancer, and heart disease--tends to really kick in only past middle age. In a population that doesn't usually live to middle age, it doesn't matter if you're genetically predisposed to get something that'll kill you after fifty. But it matters very much in a population that tends to live closer to eighty years.


So, since in today's climate it is clearly bad for you to be diabetic, I agree, you should NOT be eating too much chocolate cakes.

Now, diabetes makes life hard for you directly, while hyperactivity only does it indirectly through the disapproval you get from others. So, in case of hyperactivity your body is right in not wanting to take meds against it. Instead of killing the precious brain cells of hyperactive person, others should be taught to be more tolerant.

This is actually the point that my mom doesn't get. For instance, she was against my taking so much college math and physics while I was still in high school, and she was also against my rushing through college to get to graduate school as fast as I can. Why? Because she believes that a development should be "even", so since my social skills as well as knowledge of humanity courses is so far behind, by pushing math and physics even further ahead I make my development even less even. But what she doesn't get is this: how do you define what is even and what isn't? In order to do that, you have to say which milestone in math or physics corresponds to which milestone in social skills. The way you do it is by observing NT-s and trying to sacrifice my progress in math in physics JUST to accomodate NT standards was the exact mistake my mom wanted to make (I didn't let her to, as I was still taking all the classes I ever wanted to take even if it meant fighting with her for months).

Now, with hyperactivity it is similar. How does she know whether I am hyperactive or not? By comparing me to NT-s. So she wanted to kill my brain cells just to make me more similar to NT, just like she wanted to slow down my progress with courses in order to make me more in line with NT-s as well. Diabetes is radically different from either of these examples. In case of diabetes, it is OBJECTIVELY worse for a diabetic himself; he doesn't have to compare himself to anyone else to figure it out. The reason a body won't warn you against diabetes is that, as collista said, your body is evolved for a different climate. But in case of hyperactivity or Asperger, it has nothing to do with climate; the reason your body doesn't like theralene is simoply that neither hyperactivity nor Asperger is bad, if it wasn't for judgmenetal people around.

Now, for the sake of the argument, lets pretend that we are not talking about me but talking about someone else, and that person has diabetes (I never had diabetes, so the situation is hypothetical) and the medicine for diabetes doesn't taste good. Suppopse that person asks the same question I did. Then, the appropriate response to that question would be to show him Callista's quote which proves that he should NOT listen to his body, and then follow up on it by NOT coating the medicine he is given. But that is not what my mom would do. Her response would be to agree with the premise that you have to listen to what your body says, and adresses that premise through coating the tablet. This shows that she regards the other person as stupid and assumes he won't see through it.

The situation with the treatment of Jews is similar. Just like it is true that in case of diabetes you should not listen to your body, it is also true that there are legitimate reasons to dislike Jews (the fact that they regard themselves as "better" than others; the fact that it is one of the very few religions that actually views Jesus as someone negative; their expectation of Messiah makes this even worse since Messiah other than Jesus is antichrist). But, in the same way as my mom would have avoided refutting what the diabetic person said, in the same way Europe avoids bringing up any of the negative things about Jews mentioned above. On the other hand, just like my mom would give the diabetic person a coated tablet, in the same way Europe gives Jews a "coated antisemitism" by lyng that they don't dislike Jews they are only worried about the rights of Palestinians. This "coat" works in both ways: Europeans don't see that what Israel does is merely a response to what Palestinians did, because this coat blocks the latter from their view.

My mom's treatment of Jennifer is again very similar to the above. Her tactic was always to come up with some conflicts. Such as for instance my seeing Jennifer for Easter would overlap in time with passover where I was supposed to see my grandmother (although it didn't matter that I didn't see my grandmother the previous year for passover). Or that if I were to come see Jennifer's relatives who were in a severe car accident, because my grandmother has to go to PRE-surgery for her hernia (and its been almost half a year and my grandma still haven't had actual surgery). All these cases are examples of "coated" dislike of Jennifer. Instead of saying she doesn't want me to see Jennifer, she says that there is something MORE important. And the reason the latter is more important is, again, because the coat works in both ways, so the coat prevents my mom from seeing the magnitude of something like a car accident. So if car accident is completley overlooked, then, of course, pre-surgery operation is more important.

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Now, we start from that basis, and proceed into what looks like a neurotic, borderline-paranoid ramble about numerous unconnected topics.


First of all, it were only four topics:

a) The way Europe treated Jews during World War 2
b) The way Europe treats Jews during Israeli Palestinian conflict
c) The way my mom treated Jennifer before North Carolina
d) The way my mom treated Jennifer during the subsequent year

The reason I included these four topics is to present an analogy. In particular, a is analogous to c in that in both cases there was total neglect, while b is analogous to d, in that in both cases there is anger reaction due to someone else reacting to "non existant" problem that has been neglected in a and c.

The reason I wanted to stress that analogy instead of just focussing on one of these four topics is that I believe that is the way NT-s operate in general. For instance, I haven't experienced any bullying ever since I graduated from high school, which was 11 years ago. Mainly, the way NT-s mistreated me in the past few years is by merely AVOIDING me. I find this to be far worse than bullying since I don't even have an apportunity to defend myself. I think thats how NT-s operate in general, if they dislike someone, regardless of the reasons for their dislike, they won't bring it up; instead they would avoid that person, and I find this totally unfair. I felt that by using the comparison of different unrelated topics where the action of NT-s was totally similar in this respect would stress the point.



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02 Oct 2009, 11:57 am

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Because you're her child? And why don't you ask her upfront? I'd bet you anything that she can explain her actions a whole lot better than any of us.


The reason I don't ask her is that, as explained in this post, it has nothing to do with her seeing what is not there, rather it has to do with her missing part of the picture (namely Jennifer's side of the story). I don't want to point out to her the part of the picture that she misses simply because I am too shy to admit I noticed it myself. Thats why I was so desperate to get HER to poitn out this part of the picture to me, which she totally refused to do.



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Erm, not everything with sedative properties is a psychiatric medication that destroys your brain..
Plenty of people use diphenhydramine (Bendryl) as a sleep aid, antihistamine, or both, plenty of people use melatonin (a natural neurotransmitter) as a sedative, or chamomile tea, and anything with tryptophan has a similar effect, since that amino acid is a precursor to melatonin..
Having sedative properties doesn't make something a poison.


As far as sleeping aid it is different. If you are not able to fall asleep, you would be tired the next day and not be able to function as well. On the other hand, if you are hyperactive, you will function better, not worse. So yes, take the pills that help YOUR functioning; but don't take the pills that sacrifice your functioning in order to conform to the norms of NT-s.