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05 Jan 2010, 12:12 pm

A lot of people here seem negative, so this post is for you.

If you think the odds are against you in absolutely anything you want to do, it's more likely that actually, they're not, and you having Asperger's proves this. How? Well, approximately, only 1% of the world's population are Aspies. Yet, here you are, with Asperger's, reading this.

Let's look at some other things, too. What is the chance that you were born with any other traits you have? Hair colour, eye colour, personality, and the billions of other variables the human body has, in the exact combination you have. Well, everyone in the world is unique, and the approximate probability that you were even born is 1 in 225 billion! Impossible odds... Yet, here you are.

I could even take this further, and say that there is probably a tiny chance that you would joined this forum, logged on, and checked for threads in the right time frame to see this thread, though that of course depends on how often you use the forum.

So, when you think something is impossible, remember that the odds are nothing compared to tiny odds you've already beat.



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05 Jan 2010, 12:34 pm

this just reminded me of a starwars quote... lemme find it again....

C-3PO: Sir, the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to one!
Han Solo: Never tell me the odds

that is pretty much it.


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05 Jan 2010, 12:37 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
this just reminded me of a starwars quote... lemme find it again....

C-3PO: Sir, the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to one!
Han Solo: Never tell me the odds

that is pretty much it.


Very true!



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05 Jan 2010, 2:40 pm

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05 Jan 2010, 2:53 pm

^ Well I think sometimes we have to look at the world and not define ourselves by our success in it. It can be extremely hard to navigate a system when we were never given the tools others got naturally by birthright. Right now I am thinking more of what I can do, which is likely unrelated to the success which is the "common" success. I have read inspirational books but I dont think they are useful unless the author is a person with similar gifts and similar challenges to me. To date I have not seen such a book that would apply to me :? .


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05 Jan 2010, 3:13 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
^ Well I think sometimes we have to look at the world and not define ourselves by our success in it. It can be extremely hard to navigate a system when we were never given the tools others got naturally by birthright. Right now I am thinking more of what I can do, which is likely unrelated to the success which is the "common" success. I have read inspirational books but I dont think they are useful unless the author is a person with similar gifts and similar challenges to me. To date I have not seen such a book that would apply to me :? .


The way I see things, you're on this crappy world and there's nothing anyone can do about it, so you might as well look at it and exploit anything you know about it, along with your own skills, to your advantage.

For example, I am good at computers and business, and my ambition in life is to get so rich I can buy whatever I want (and move to Monaco due to no taxes and crime), so what will I do to achieve it? I'm starting a software company. I plan to be properly rich eventually, because I believe I have the enthusiasm, knowledge, and talent to do so. Though, actually, you don't need to be "talented" to be successful, with only very few exceptions, but that's going off-topic.



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05 Jan 2010, 3:15 pm

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05 Jan 2010, 3:36 pm

Willard wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
^ Well I think sometimes we have to look at the world and not define ourselves by our success in it.



Well, this is probably going to elicit a chorus of dissent, but I believe there is still a holdover of cultural expectation from generations previous to ours that puts a tremendous amount of internal pressure on males in western society that working women still do not experience, in the same degree. And it may go beyond social expectation to something downright genetic. Men define themselves primarily by what they do. Women tend more to define themselves by who they are in relation to those around them. For a man it's very hard not to think of oneself as synonymous with one's job or career - it defines us and gives us purpose - stripped of that we feel as though we don't really exist.


I know that men feel differently about careers. To be honest I dont care about careers, but many women my age are doing well in their career and happy... I just want to be able to support myself. Careers are just as important for women as men, not because of self-definition but it can allow a woman to escape an abusive marriage if she can support herself, and can allow her to raise children on her own.


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05 Jan 2010, 3:40 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
For example, I am good at computers and business, and my ambition in life is to get so rich I can buy whatever I want (and move to Monaco due to no taxes and crime), so what will I do to achieve it? I'm starting a software company. I plan to be properly rich eventually, because I believe I have the enthusiasm, knowledge, and talent to do so. Though, actually, you don't need to be "talented" to be successful, with only very few exceptions, but that's going off-topic.


That sounds like fun! I have been to Nice, (on a bus tour), though I got sick the day people took the trip to Monaco and had to stay at the camp. I think you will enjoy yourself.

I havent found what I am good at yet. I have done numerous career and personality tests. There must be something....


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08 Jan 2010, 6:01 am

keep looking, there is something.

I saw a list on how to improve self esteem

one of the items was
instead of spending all your time on your weaknesses, trying working on your strengths so you become better at what you are good at.



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08 Jan 2010, 8:29 am

tweety_fan wrote:
keep looking, there is something.

I saw a list on how to improve self esteem

one of the items was
instead of spending all your time on your weaknesses, trying working on your strengths so you become better at what you are good at.



the trouble with that is when you have no freaking clue as to what your strengths are.


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08 Jan 2010, 2:11 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
tweety_fan wrote:
keep looking, there is something.

I saw a list on how to improve self esteem

one of the items was
instead of spending all your time on your weaknesses, trying working on your strengths so you become better at what you are good at.



the trouble with that is when you have no freaking clue as to what your strengths are.


Asperger's itself can be a strength. It allows you to focus on something very well. It allows you to think logically, too.



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08 Jan 2010, 2:25 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
A lot of people here seem negative, so this post is for you.

If you think the odds are against you in absolutely anything you want to do, it's more likely that actually, they're not, and you having Asperger's proves this. How? Well, approximately, only 1% of the world's population are Aspies. Yet, here you are, with Asperger's, reading this.

Let's look at some other things, too. What is the chance that you were born with any other traits you have? Hair colour, eye colour, personality, and the billions of other variables the human body has, in the exact combination you have. Well, everyone in the world is unique, and the approximate probability that you were even born is 1 in 225 billion! Impossible odds... Yet, here you are.

I could even take this further, and say that there is probably a tiny chance that you would joined this forum, logged on, and checked for threads in the right time frame to see this thread, though that of course depends on how often you use the forum.

So, when you think something is impossible, remember that the odds are nothing compared to tiny odds you've already beat.


Your probabilistic reasoning seems faulty to me. Overcoming giant odds in being alive, with AS, and reading this thread, tells me little to nothing about the odds of me winning the lottery twice consecutively - the odds of which are still going to be overwhelmingly against me, AS or not.


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08 Jan 2010, 2:33 pm

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Asp-Z wrote:
A lot of people here seem negative, so this post is for you.

If you think the odds are against you in absolutely anything you want to do, it's more likely that actually, they're not, and you having Asperger's proves this. How? Well, approximately, only 1% of the world's population are Aspies. Yet, here you are, with Asperger's, reading this.

Let's look at some other things, too. What is the chance that you were born with any other traits you have? Hair colour, eye colour, personality, and the billions of other variables the human body has, in the exact combination you have. Well, everyone in the world is unique, and the approximate probability that you were even born is 1 in 225 billion! Impossible odds... Yet, here you are.

I could even take this further, and say that there is probably a tiny chance that you would joined this forum, logged on, and checked for threads in the right time frame to see this thread, though that of course depends on how often you use the forum.

So, when you think something is impossible, remember that the odds are nothing compared to tiny odds you've already beat.


Your probabilistic reasoning seems faulty to me. Overcoming giant odds in being alive, with AS, and reading this thread, tells me little to nothing about the odds of me winning the lottery twice consecutively - the odds of which are still going to be overwhelmingly against me, AS or not.


My point is, if you have overcome massive odds just to become alive, there is very little that is actually impossible, no matter who you are. The odds of you being born were much smaller than your chances of winning the Lotto.



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08 Jan 2010, 2:58 pm

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The odds of you being born were much smaller than your chances of winning the Lotto.

Huh?

The odds of your being born is a bit of a moot point because we are alive to read this in the first place.

Also, even if the odds of being born were smaller than my chances of winning the Lotto, the low probability of being born has no effect at all on my chance of winning the Lotto (besides the obvious fact that if I were not born, I could not play Lotto).

It's like rolling a 6-sided die, followed by a 20-sided die. The chance on the first die is 1 out of 6. The chance on the second die is 1 out of 20. Whether the first die is 4-sided or 50-sided has no effect on the fact that the chance on the second die is 1 out of 20.


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08 Jan 2010, 3:03 pm

Stinkypuppy wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The odds of you being born were much smaller than your chances of winning the Lotto.

Huh?

The odds of your being born is a bit of a moot point because we are alive to read this in the first place.

Also, even if the odds of being born were smaller than my chances of winning the Lotto, the low probability of being born has no effect at all on my chance of winning the Lotto (besides the obvious fact that if I were not born, I could not play Lotto).

It's like rolling a 6-sided die, followed by a 20-sided die. The chance on the first die is 1 out of 6. The chance on the second die is 1 out of 20. Whether the first die is 4-sided or 50-sided has no effect on the fact that the chance on the second die is 1 out of 20.


True, but the point is that if something as simple as being alive has such a small probability, there's no real reason to think that something with even seemily low odds is impossible.