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29 Dec 2009, 6:51 am

The world is so horrible, people are so horrible, they think and do such horrible things. How can people tollerate it, how do people carry on with the wrongness of it all. I dispair at humanity, i dont see any point in trying to do anything as nothing will ever change. I feel such hatred of life and such pain. I really want to smoke :x

Ive got the social workers coming next week and im never going to cope with that without smoking. I hate it all.



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29 Dec 2009, 7:02 am

This always makes me feel better..... :)

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/654c77 ... irplanefan

I'm sorry, I don't have any good advice, but I hope you feel better. :(



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29 Dec 2009, 7:12 am

lotusblossom wrote:
The world is so horrible, people are so horrible, they think and do such horrible things. How can people tollerate it, how do people carry on with the wrongness of it all.


I do my best to put it out of my mind, keep close to the ground and try to be different.

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I really want to smoke :x


What stops you?


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29 Dec 2009, 7:18 am

FaithHopeCheese wrote:
This always makes me feel better..... :)

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/654c77 ... irplanefan

I'm sorry, I don't have any good advice, but I hope you feel better. :(


lol, yes definately how I feel.



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29 Dec 2009, 7:24 am

leejosepho wrote:
lotusblossom wrote:
The world is so horrible, people are so horrible, they think and do such horrible things. How can people tollerate it, how do people carry on with the wrongness of it all.


I do my best to put it out of my mind, keep close to the ground and try to be different.

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I really want to smoke :x


What stops you?


what stops me smoking, well nothing much this morning, maybe I will buy some more when I go to the shop later. Ive been re reading all the articles on this page http://whyquit.com/ to try and keep me motivated but its very hard. I want to not smoke as I could see the aging effects from just smoking again for a few months, everybody in my life disaproves of it, its making my teeth very yellow, its effecting my ability to exercise as much as i like, it makes it harder to breathe. But I still want one very much as it feels calming and good.



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29 Dec 2009, 1:32 pm

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I dispair at humanity, i dont see any point in trying to do anything as nothing will ever change ...
Ive got the social workers coming next week ...
Ive been re reading all the articles on this page http://whyquit.com/ to try and keep me motivated but its very hard ...
But I still want one very much as it feels calming and good.


Personally, I just do my best to weigh things out and try to find a rational perspective. I quit for quite a while after a heart attack ten years ago, and now I certainly do not smoke as heavily as before. But yes, it can feel calming and therefore seemingly "good" even though it definitely has its price.

If you began smoking in your teens and/or you have already smoked for 20 years or more, damage has been done and continuing (or again beginning) to smoke can make things exponentially worse, I have heard.

Are you expecting trouble from the social workers?


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29 Dec 2009, 3:45 pm

leejosepho wrote:
lotusblossom wrote:
I dispair at humanity, i dont see any point in trying to do anything as nothing will ever change ...
Ive got the social workers coming next week ...
Ive been re reading all the articles on this page http://whyquit.com/ to try and keep me motivated but its very hard ...
But I still want one very much as it feels calming and good.


Personally, I just do my best to weigh things out and try to find a rational perspective. I quit for quite a while after a heart attack ten years ago, and now I certainly do not smoke as heavily as before. But yes, it can feel calming and therefore seemingly "good" even though it definitely has its price.

If you began smoking in your teens and/or you have already smoked for 20 years or more, damage has been done and continuing (or again beginning) to smoke can make things exponentially worse, I have heard.

Are you expecting trouble from the social workers?


yes they said on the last visit that they are probably going to raise it to a child protection case, she is bringing an extra social worker with her so they can privately interview the children.



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29 Dec 2009, 3:52 pm

Ah. That would make me edgy even if I thought everything is in order. I do not mean to make light of the matter of smoking, but I would be sure the children are not being exposed to any smoke ... and I will definitely be thinking of you and your concerns.


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29 Dec 2009, 3:57 pm

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Ah. That would make me edgy even if I thought everything is in order. I do not mean to make light of the matter of smoking, but I would be sure the children are not being exposed to any smoke ... and I will definitely be thinking of you and your concerns.


yes I definately dont want to be smoking, but also dont want to be stressed and unhinged, I am someone who does not perform well under pressure but who appears very unhinged and crazy when Im stressed and frightened :? :cry:

I will do extra meditation and yoga and on the day I will put relaxing music on and fill a pint of water to drink.



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30 Dec 2009, 4:47 am

Seems to be alot of issue with nosy social workers in the UK lately. Why are they hounding you? Is it because of your AS?The UK is sounding more and more like Nazi Germany and social services being its new "SS" aka Gestapo.
The UK made it's first mistake when it started banning guns.Gun control is the first step to totalitarianism, followed by the declaration of discriminative policies such as having social workers infringe upon those with disabilities using the threat of apprehending children as a weapon to coerce them and manipulate them.
Thankfully, here in Canada, we are still allowed to have guns to protect ourselves and a constitution prohibiting the government from forcing bad policies that discriminate based on disability (iq or learning disabilities are not just cause to infringe upon a parents privacy and threaten to take their kids). An AS person with kids can rest assured in Canada that the government will not send Gestapo agents (social workers) to hound and harass them on the basis that they have AS alone.There has to be a complaint of child abuse or neglect lodged before the gestapo can even interview anyone or enter the property.


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30 Dec 2009, 6:19 am

The childrens camhs (child and adolesent mental health service) made a child protection report a year ago when we stopped going. We stopped going as they were not helpful and I had got a private diagnosis for my kids by then, they said it was fine to not come any more. Then 4 months later they put in the child protection report for us not going.

I think if I was NT I would have got rid of the SS by now but because I dont want them round and be agitated it makes them more interested and come more. I hired a autism advocate to help me liase with the SS and do some behaviour therapy with the children to get them to follow hygene rules better and social skills, but after a few weeks she put in a child protection report to SS that I had problems changeing the kids clothes (which is what I blooming hired her to help me with grr) so we have not had much luck.

My youngest child has another condition which we have to see a specialist hospital for and the therapist she sees there has told the SS that he is concerned about my parenting and thinks it is the cause of the condition which is why the SS are now going to raise the case from 'helping me' to child protection.

Up untill now I have been home educating my children as I hated school myself, the SS main concern seems to be about home educating so I am hopeful that if I put them in school the SS will back off, though I am sure it will bring other problems (as both kids really really do not want to go to school).



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30 Dec 2009, 7:50 am

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The childrens camhs (child and adolesent mental health service) made a child protection report a year ago when we stopped going. We stopped going as they were not helpful and I had got a private diagnosis for my kids by then, they said it was fine to not come any more. Then 4 months later they put in the child protection report for us not going.

I think if I was NT I would have got rid of the SS by now but because I dont want them round and be agitated it makes them more interested and come more. I hired a autism advocate to help me liase with the SS and do some behaviour therapy with the children to get them to follow hygene rules better and social skills, but after a few weeks she put in a child protection report to SS that I had problems changeing the kids clothes (which is what I blooming hired her to help me with grr) so we have not had much luck.

My youngest child has another condition which we have to see a specialist hospital for and the therapist she sees there has told the SS that he is concerned about my parenting and thinks it is the cause of the condition which is why the SS are now going to raise the case from 'helping me' to child protection.

Up untill now I have been home educating my children as I hated school myself, the SS main concern seems to be about home educating so I am hopeful that if I put them in school the SS will back off, though I am sure it will bring other problems (as both kids really really do not want to go to school).


Do you have anyone in your family, like your mom, who could be there when the SS visit?



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30 Dec 2009, 8:43 am

no, it makes me more stressed the more people is there as I find it too hard to follow what is happening.



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02 Jan 2010, 2:04 am

You could just have a lawyer present whenever the Gestapo comes and tell them to ask questions to your lawyer.Seeing that you are a single mom, you might qualify for legal aid.Having the Gestapo come because of homeschooling is only something one would think would happen in Nazi Germany or the old Soviet Union.Here in Canada, one has the right to choose private therapy and diagnosises without hinderance from the government.Government encroaching on those who home school and use privatized health care is something almost unheared of in Canada.
I wonder if you can afford to immigrate to Canada or the US to get the SS of your back.

Here is a link to Immigration Canada's website

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp


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02 Jan 2010, 6:47 am

I dont think emigrating would be a practical solution Tory_canuck.

I think I will just start smoking again to cope as everything is really horrible. Its all too much to cope with.

Its only 2 days now, they are going to give the kids private interviews, of course the kids will say the worst things as they will be worried and not know what to say. Its awful as my 7 year old has pulled the dining room door off in a tantrum so im going to have to explain that to the social worker.

Im frightend as well that they might put me in the mental hospital as Im really not well. Im frightend of hospital as had a horrible time in there in my teens. Everyday just gets worse not better.



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02 Jan 2010, 3:23 pm

Im determined not to smoke, I will keep strong.

Ive bought these books on conflict so I will try and read them tonight and tomorow and hopefully they might have some helpful ideas to cope with the social worker.
( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Convers ... 819&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hate-Conflict-R ... 19&sr=8-11 )

Ive got an aspie meet up on tuesday but I dont feel like going at the moment as I feel so depressed and crap. My mum is coming on tuesday though which will be great as Ive not seen anyone since the 20th dec so a hug and some nice words will be great. I need a hug.

my health feels better for not smoking and Ive been able to do lots of exercise, I dread to think what state I would be in if I had not been exercising.