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28 Oct 2010, 10:57 pm

Anyone can argue that I am unique and special, but what does that really mean? Even NTs are unique in some way, so that makes no difference. And "special" is only a euphemism for "defect". It's an umbrella term that is still used to denote anyone with a mental illness/ condition/ disability. It simply means "not normal".

People on the spectrum are often depicted as talented, intelligent, focused and hardworking (almost obsessive) people, but what if we are not? I am not, and I spent so many years trying to be normal that I almost look the part, and I have no special skills/ interests. I have learned to value human contact so much, and yet I am always left out. What a trade off. So not only am I less than an NT, I am less than Aspie, I am subhuman.

Some spectrumites find something they love, and live pretty happily focusing on their careers. I'm glad for them, but not everyone can just do that. I can't, as I said I have no special talents and I value contact far too much. I need to be good at something AND I need to belong. I can't stay for a year in college (I've studied in four schools since I graduated), I can't get a job either (where I'm from, even food crew have degrees). I can't do anything no matter how hard I try. Who needs a subhuman when you can get a normal person who is more suited for the job and has credentials to boot? Who would hang out with a weird person like me who doesn't even talk much and hates most tv shows and mainstream music? I'm so lame, even I wouldn't hang out with me.

Normal NTs (since some NTs that have problems are usually nicer) are so lucky, they can just take their lives for granted. Career, social life, relationships, they can just breeze right through them. They don't know how it is to hurt every day because of not belonging anywhere. I wish I could just wake up one day as a normal NT, without any recollection of being anything but that. I hate my life, it's so bad that lately just a few thoughts, some memories of the past make me want not just to die, but to disappear from all time and space. It wouldn't hurt if I just ceased to exist.

Sorry for the long, depressing, semi-ranty post.



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28 Oct 2010, 11:04 pm

I understand. I'm struggling with the social problems myself. There are a few things you can do to help with the social issues - therapist, groups with similar interests as you and so on. Just take it slowly and learn from those experiences.

Hopefully, you'll find a niche where you'll fit in, so to speak.



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28 Oct 2010, 11:04 pm

you can join the Fightin' 501st with me. I'm defected as well.



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28 Oct 2010, 11:09 pm

glad to know I am not the only defect at WP.

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28 Oct 2010, 11:12 pm

bf10 wrote:
Who would hang out with a weird person like me who doesn't even talk much and hates most tv shows and mainstream music? I'm so lame, even I wouldn't hang out with me.


Probably someone like me...though it depends on what way you're weird in.

bf10 wrote:
Normal NTs (since some NTs that have problems are usually nicer) are so lucky, they can just take their lives for granted. Career, social life, relationships, they can just breeze right through them.


I do agree they frequently take these things for granted, but certainly not always. There are NT's who have a variety of relationship and career problems. A study a while back found as many as 2/3 of adults suffered from loneliness. And they're also just as prone to depression.

Most people have the potential to be good at something, even if they haven't realized that potential yet. And then some people have the potential and never realize it because they never take the initiative to find out what it is they're good at.



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29 Oct 2010, 2:07 am

us DEFECTS have got to STAND TOGETHER :!: :idea:



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29 Oct 2010, 2:34 am

The strongest people are the ones that stand by themselves. They don't need others to pat them on the back, kiss their cheek and tell them how good they are. They just go out and do s**t. People on earth have it backwards. They make you think that you need friends and if you don't have friends then you are a reject but what good are those friends? They lie, they die, they need, they used you at some point and they would drop you for higher. Sure, you need people to help you accomplish your goals but make it that. The goal is beyond comprehension and metaphysical, it is whatever Idea that you want to come up with but you have to create it. The real purpose is creating something, if people want to jump in, sure but always strive to be a stronger person that can deal with any mind test that anyone gives you down here. You become powerful this way.



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29 Oct 2010, 6:28 am

bf10 wrote:
Anyone can argue that I am unique and special, but what does that really mean? Even NTs are unique in some way, so that makes no difference. And "special" is only a euphemism for "defect". It's an umbrella term that is still used to denote anyone with a mental illness/ condition/ disability. It simply means "not normal".

People on the spectrum are often depicted as talented, intelligent, focused and hardworking (almost obsessive) people, but what if we are not? I am not, and I spent so many years trying to be normal that I almost look the part, and I have no special skills/ interests. I have learned to value human contact so much, and yet I am always left out. What a trade off. So not only am I less than an NT, I am less than Aspie, I am subhuman.

Some spectrumites find something they love, and live pretty happily focusing on their careers. I'm glad for them, but not everyone can just do that. I can't, as I said I have no special talents and I value contact far too much. I need to be good at something AND I need to belong. I can't stay for a year in college (I've studied in four schools since I graduated), I can't get a job either (where I'm from, even food crew have degrees). I can't do anything no matter how hard I try. Who needs a subhuman when you can get a normal person who is more suited for the job and has credentials to boot? Who would hang out with a weird person like me who doesn't even talk much and hates most tv shows and mainstream music? I'm so lame, even I wouldn't hang out with me.

Normal NTs (since some NTs that have problems are usually nicer) are so lucky, they can just take their lives for granted. Career, social life, relationships, they can just breeze right through them. They don't know how it is to hurt every day because of not belonging anywhere. I wish I could just wake up one day as a normal NT, without any recollection of being anything but that. I hate my life, it's so bad that lately just a few thoughts, some memories of the past make me want not just to die, but to disappear from all time and space. It wouldn't hurt if I just ceased to exist.

Sorry for the long, depressing, semi-ranty post.


I agree with you...just don't take it for granted that a career or a college education = happiness. It doesn't make up for personal incompetence. Trust me :cry:

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29 Oct 2010, 1:48 pm

auntblabby wrote:
us DEFECTS have got to STAND TOGETHER :!: :idea:


Couldn't agree more!

Some can call us defects, or whatever, I honestly don't care nor do I want to measure myself or my friends according to usual societal norms. We are valuable as we are, in all shapes and colours, happy or unhappy, "successful" (whatever that means) or not.



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29 Oct 2010, 3:42 pm

Booyakasha - your avatar is defective - it's the wrong colour! :wink: :P


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29 Oct 2010, 6:37 pm

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29 Oct 2010, 10:05 pm

Alexkayukov wrote:
Technically people with Autism and Aspergers are kind of defects because of their higher chance to rape
Yeah lacking social skils can definitely set you up for rape more easily. As for people with AS being defected as a whole cuz of that, well that depends on whether you see one's social skills as a measure of one's inherent worth or not. Most people do, so yeah that's why AS is considered pathological.



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30 Oct 2010, 1:38 am

TallyMan wrote:
Booyakasha - your avatar is defective - it's the wrong colour! :wink: :P


that is a nice color. [colour]



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30 Oct 2010, 3:20 am

TallyMan wrote:
Booyakasha - your avatar is defective - it's the wrong colour! :wink: :P


Pffft your Caesar is suffering from a severe case of icterus. :P