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Shadwell
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04 Dec 2010, 3:57 am

I really hate my job. I work retail. The thing I hate about my job the most isn’t the customers, though some are really bad, but rather some of my co-workers. I hate my manager who exudes anger constantly. I understand that he is the brunt for all the corporate crap but I hate him still because he resigned himself to that position because the pay was good. I hate this hipster guy. We share some similar tastes but he’s a snob. I hate anyone there that thinks I’m a moron or am not going anywhere in life. I know some people would say you should just be happy to have a job right now let alone two, and I am in a sense, but I still f*****g despise it. I'm applying to volunteer at a youth center in order to build up some counseling experience on my resume. I am applying to graduate programs in Art Therapy a year from this spring once I get my pre-reqs out of the way. I face the obstacle of networking when you don't get along with 9/10ths of humanity. networking is crucial to art I am told. I also must learn how to be a therapist when I myself have aspergers, if I get into a program.



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04 Dec 2010, 4:47 am

I feel you man, i hated my past jobs too. One was in the tourist industry sitting at a front desk talking to customers all day who just complained to me and the other was at a bakery where the head baker was just a dick, not to mention my coworkers were lazy as hell and didnt speak English.
I want to be a therapist but getting there takes a lot of networking and social skills building, im not good at either...i somehow just want to finish my psychology degree, add it along with my sociology one and magically have an office where I'm boss and have patients with AS and personality disorder/anxiety disorder issues come to me...and just skip everything in between.

keep going at it man, you know your goal already- its just that the path to that goal is usually filled with bumps (for nts/regular people) but for us theres boulders impeding our path....in the end though I think AS'ers will come away with more because we had to overcome so much more than your average person. sometimes I just want to laugh when a NT friend complains about how hard his or her life, school, work is....ive done just as much, if not more with much bigger challenges in many aspects of life. I'm only 20 but i feel a lot older because I had to suck up and keep up with my friends and peers from elitist circles who have $$$, connections, looks and brains that work like the majority...all because I could never stand to be the one left behind because of my 'mental state' . dont let it get in the way of your Art



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04 Dec 2010, 8:02 am

at this point in my life, given a choice to once more submit to having my square peg-ness being rammed into a round hole, or being a homeless casualty, i'd choose the latter- or more precisely, it would choose me.



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04 Dec 2010, 9:00 am

Shadwell wrote:
I know some people would say you should just be happy to have a job right now.

I'm not one of those people. Growing up, I kind of hoped for better, you know? How did I go from "mom says I can be anything I want to be" to "just happy to be employed today"??? It doesn't matter if you have one job or two jobs or a good job or a bad job. If you don't like your job, you're not where you should be. But, it sounds like you're at least moving in a better direction. Now it's just a matter of time...


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04 Dec 2010, 10:19 am

I feel better, thanks y'all. I think Aspergers might an obstacle to counseling in the networking way but a boon to counseling in the sense that because of our condition we can empathize with a lot of the patients and have desire for learning how people work. Maybe the people in that field will be somewhat understanding and easier to work with, at least I hope.



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06 Dec 2010, 11:47 am

I work in social services and find that I'm really well-suited to the population I work with (people with disabilities and the elderly), but could not picture myself working with other populations (teenagers, for example). You'll have to figure out what works for you and, unfortunately, unless you do a lot of volunteering beforehand, this might involve some trial and error. Asperger's can be an obstacle in some ways, but I also find that working in this field has given me a whole lot of opportunities for personal growth, too.

Just out of curiosity, what is your undergrad in? Art? If you have a BA in Art or something and already have a lot of the pre-req's out of the way, then art therapy would make sense. Otherwise, have you considered an MSW or Master's in Psych instead? It would give you broader career options. I have a BA in English and, man, I wish I had my MSW, in order to have more options and better security. Just a thought.



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07 Dec 2010, 10:12 am

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I work in social services and find that I'm really well-suited to the population I work with (people with disabilities and the elderly), but could not picture myself working with other populations (teenagers, for example). You'll have to figure out what works for you and, unfortunately, unless you do a lot of volunteering beforehand, this might involve some trial and error. Asperger's can be an obstacle in some ways, but I also find that working in this field has given me a whole lot of opportunities for personal growth, too.

Just out of curiosity, what is your undergrad in? Art? If you have a BA in Art or something and already have a lot of the pre-req's out of the way, then art therapy would make sense. Otherwise, have you considered an MSW or Master's in Psych instead? It would give you broader career options. I have a BA in English and, man, I wish I had my MSW, in order to have more options and better security. Just a thought.


Thanks for the advice. Can't you enter a graduate psychology program with an English undergrad degree? My undergrad is actually in Media Studies. I was pursuing a second degree in Art Ed. but since I have almost all the art pre-reqs for Art Therapy out of the way and really enjoy psychology classes it seems to be a good idea to take the rest of the psych pre-reqs for Art Therapy. I'm not sure how much more job security it has over art ed. (optimally I'd do both) or a MSW but its important for me to have job that involves art. I was a substitute teacher and teenagers seem difficult in general albeit very fascinating for me. I am planning on doing lots of volunteer work with different populations, retail has already exposed me to all of them. The other option is to finish art ed. or do all studio-art, which would help learn more about how to think critically about art, but I rather like the idea of Art Therapy, it sounds like a populist one and the cutthroat world of gallery art is not.



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07 Dec 2010, 5:05 pm

Yeah, I could go back for my MSW ... if I were motivated enough to balance night classes with working FT. (That sounds horrible, but it's true). I would just have some extra pre-req classes to get through, that's all. I guess what I meant was that if I were still in school, knowing what I know now about working in the 'helping professions,' that is what I'd do.

Working with teenagers! God bless you! I started out as an English/Secondary Ed major, but discovered during my student teaching that I just couldn't connect with the kids at all. If you can successfully substitute teach, I think you should have more confidence in your interpersonal skills.



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07 Dec 2010, 8:36 pm

Well, they didn't kill me, although I think some of them wanted to. I guess you could call that successful.



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07 Dec 2010, 9:25 pm

Ihated my previous job with a passion. I worked out in O'fallon where all the stuck up soccer moms lived and shopped.



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08 Dec 2010, 7:29 pm

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Ihated my previous job with a passion. I worked out in O'fallon where all the stuck up soccer moms lived and shopped.


Pretty much the same working in Brentwood. I hate going past 170. What part of St. Louis do you live in?



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08 Dec 2010, 7:31 pm

Shadwell wrote:
Ackman wrote:
Ihated my previous job with a passion. I worked out in O'fallon where all the stuck up soccer moms lived and shopped.


Pretty much the same working in Brentwood. I hate going past 170. What part of St. Louis do you live in?


I live out in Saint Peters, or I should say Unincorporated St. Charles County. I go to STLCC Meramec.

I would have hated to be on I-270 at the Chain of Rocks Bridge today. That part of 270 has always bothered me.



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08 Dec 2010, 8:24 pm

Ackman wrote:
Shadwell wrote:
Ackman wrote:
Ihated my previous job with a passion. I worked out in O'fallon where all the stuck up soccer moms lived and shopped.


Pretty much the same working in Brentwood. I hate going past 170. What part of St. Louis do you live in?


I live out in Saint Peters, or I should say Unincorporated St. Charles County. I go to STLCC Meramec.

I would have hated to be on I-270 at the Chain of Rocks Bridge today. That part of 270 has always bothered me.


I heard something about a traffic jam today, drivers are just terrible in this town.



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08 Dec 2010, 8:47 pm

Yes, yes they are.



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09 Dec 2010, 1:50 am

I hate working retail too. What kills me is that I'm good at it, so a lot is expected of me, but I hate it, so I am not naturally good at it.

And at the same time, the pay is sh!t.


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09 Dec 2010, 4:08 pm

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I hate working retail too. What kills me is that I'm good at it, so a lot is expected of me, but I hate it, so I am not naturally good at it.

And at the same time, the pay is sh!t.


You sort of have to be good at it to keep your job. The working with the public part has probably helped me improve my social skills to a certain extent.