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22 Dec 2010, 3:18 am

One of the social cues i never picked up to to Asperger Syndrome was controlling the volume of my voice and so i naturally talk loud as in yelling without even realizing it always have. today my mom said and i quote "you will never become a productive member of society." and "if you don't control your voice i will kick you out." i mean is she even legally allowed to do that? my older brother realized its because my autism and said what she should do is get me to see a therapist who specializes in autism to help me better learn to socialize in society and she dismissed him yelling at him saying he isn't her father just because he apparently cares about my health a lot more than her. And she was talking to my uncle earlier hell of exaggerating blowing it all out of proportion and some how shifting blame for her ignorance on my brother. which we don't like because we all look up greatly to our uncle.


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22 Dec 2010, 3:26 am

At 16, no, she cannot legally kick you out.

While I think her telling you that you will never become a productive member of society is a horrible thing for a parent to say to a child, it's usually done in frustration, because the parent WANTS the child to become a productive member of society and wants them to change their ways to become one.



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22 Dec 2010, 3:36 am

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At 16, no, she cannot legally kick you out.


Unless you're in the UK... but you would end up in a hostel. I know because my Mum threatened to kick me out. She did eventually. When I was 20. I have the voice control difficulty. Are you able to adjust your volume when someone tells you that you are speaking too loud? Maybe your brother, who obviously cares about you, could learn a sign for 'loud' or 'quiet' to subtly tell you when you are being too loud. This is what my Mum does now when I am around my step-dad because he hates when I am talking too loud.


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22 Dec 2010, 4:15 am

well when im talking to loud people just tell me "you know your shouting in my ear right?" and i say sorry i didnt know and try my best to quiet down which because i dont understand im being loud in the first place is pretty difficult to find a suitable noise level. she treats my autism as if there is nothing wrong with me and as if i should just know what to do even though Asperger Syndrome impairs my learning ability when it comes to social situations. and then when something bad happens socially or when people get annoyed because i dont know what to do she blames me instead of her inability to see that i need help in learning how to socialize. because at the moment i only know how to socialize online because i dont have to see anyone face-to-face and even then more often than not i mess up and get people from different places in the world mad at me also


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22 Dec 2010, 8:07 am

LOL! Sorry but looking on it threats to be kicked out IMO are nothing compared to my HELL! Threats from mom to be killed and threats from my parents to backer-act me (AKA put in a Psych ward/mental hospital). but I've gotten threats to be kicked out as well more than I can count sadly. :-(



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22 Dec 2010, 8:46 am

WOW. No your mom has no reason to kick you out. You are underage! Some parents who have disabled children can be so cruel! :evil:


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22 Dec 2010, 9:55 am

TheKing wrote:
i dont understand im being loud in the first place ...

I occasionally suspect I am being a bit loud or "too energetic" even though people usually say I am not. Nevertheless, I still make efforts to watch for that just to keep from "blowing people away" even inadvertently.

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... pretty difficult to find a suitable noise level.

I never know what someone else is actually hearing, and speaking more quietly does takes a lot of extra effort.

TheKing wrote:
Asperger Syndrome impairs my learning ability ...
i need help in learning how to socialize.

So, go get some help. Like someone has suggested: Your brother might be willing and able to offer some coaching, and there is hopefully some additional help available somewhere. In the final analysis, and now that you know your challenges, it is up to you to seek and to accept whatever kind of help you truly need ... just as things are for the rest of us.


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22 Dec 2010, 11:43 am

Jellybean wrote:
Are you able to adjust your volume when someone tells you that you are speaking too loud?


I can, but after a while I tend to drift back up to a constant level if I don't continually make an effort to control it.


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22 Dec 2010, 2:29 pm

I naturally have a loud voice when I'm excited and animated about something. The calmer I am, the lower my volume is. So if I'm nervous, then my volume goes down. Giving a speech means lower volume, and talking to one person means higher volume. It can confuse a lot of people :D



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22 Dec 2010, 8:49 pm

I feel for you. i was kicked out once, it is rough. i was lucky to be let back after 6 months.

Ask your brother if your mother is being serious or just being sarcastic or doesn't mean it. because she might not mean it and you might be taking it literally. then once you know whether or not the threat is real then make a plan of what you will do if you do get kicked out.

look for rooms to rent if you have income such as a job or dissablity. If you do get kicked out go to a hospital or a place that has the safe place sign. when you get there tell them you are homless and need them to call socal services.

please viset this web site to get more information on this . if you do get kicked out go to one of these places. you will not be homeless. then you will be taken to a foster home (or somewhere like that) where they will try to contact your parents and 1 way or another you will be taken care of.

click me i am the link for the safe place.

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23 Dec 2010, 12:05 am

My son always talked very quietly so that people couldn't understand what he was saying when he was standing four feet away.

I would gently say "crank up the volume, man. I can't hear you".
Then he would get angry and frustrated.

I didn't understand that he was not capable of that. Why? I don't know, but he just couldn't.

Now he is 25 and has learned better volume control.



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24 Dec 2010, 9:27 pm

my mom threatened to have me placed in an asylum when i was in 8th grade and i believed her because when one of my older brothers who is now a sergeant in the army was sent there in 5th grade for awhile because he didnt like his teacher so he toild my mom he will blow up her classroom

Me and my older brother who still lives here had a serious talk with my mother and we came to sort of an understanding and im pretty sure things are cool now but idk my mom has been pretty unpredictable these past few months. i think its because she blames herself for her last boyfriend committing suicide in october 4 days after she broke up with him.

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2010/10/20 ... ghway.html

thats Jason Shetler my mom's last boyfriend he was a cool guy, i really liked him and i suspected he might have been autistic because the way he acted


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25 Dec 2010, 4:15 am

In America, it would be illegal for her to throw you out(though she would get away with it if you were unable to contact authorities).
I'm sure she knows this.
Plenty of people know that murder is illegal, but that doesn't stop people from saying things like "I'm gonna kill so-and-so!". Do they actually do it? For the most part, no.
A lot of people here seem to take empty threats seriously.


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25 Dec 2010, 3:07 pm

FireMinstrel wrote:
In America, it would be illegal for her to throw you out(though she would get away with it if you were unable to contact authorities).
I'm sure she knows this.
Plenty of people know that murder is illegal, but that doesn't stop people from saying things like "I'm gonna kill so-and-so!". Do they actually do it? For the most part, no.
A lot of people here seem to take empty threats seriously.


how can you tell when they are serious or making empty threats? I can never tell. I want to know how.



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26 Dec 2010, 1:04 am

Do you take people seriously when they say they're going to kill someone? If it seems too outlandish, it must be an exaggeration. If it's an exaggeration, it should probably not be taken seriously. This person's mother would be in jail for kicking out a minor in the US. Unless the mother is a complete idiot, of course(hey, it's pretty clear she's already a jerk, so stupidity might not be that far off).


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26 Dec 2010, 1:09 am

Whether or not she can or she can't legally throw you out, it sounds like quite a toxic environment.

While it might be good if you can stay there for the short-term, so as not to be homeless and have more problems to deal with, it might be good to draw up an 'escape plan'.

Do you have any kind of support worker or therapist who you can talk to about your longer term future?

I mean, if you're still young at the moment and maybe you can't be thrown out (or maybe you can), what happens in a few years time if/when you can legally be thrown out? What are you going to do then?

You need to make some plans. What about supported housing? What about communities for disabled people who aren't able to live independently just yet?

If I were you, I'd try to ride the storm so far as the current unpleasantness goes, and focus on coming up with a longer-term plan for where I'm going to move to and how I'm going to live. Would be you able to get some kind of welfare?